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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #400 on: April 09, 2009, 08:25:23 PM »
Why is it unimpressive?  The kid is a young guy in college.  Thats the perfect pussy pulling physique right there.  Let me guess, he has to be 300 lbs of disgusting gh muscle to be impressive?  Cut the dude some slack man....look at half the physiques that are posted on this board.

Just saying.
Just saying nothing special. Looks average at best for a beginner.
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #401 on: April 09, 2009, 08:26:20 PM »
Just saying nothing special. Looks average at best for a beginner.

He looks pretty good to me for his stage in the game.  I am infact only 200 lbs so I dont know shit about being huge.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #402 on: April 09, 2009, 09:54:03 PM »
get on steroids immediately.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #403 on: April 09, 2009, 10:18:18 PM »
In all honesty bro it's delicious.  My palate has adapted to the point where I actually don't like the taste of cooked meat.  I chop up top sirloin add some seasoned salt, olive oil and chopped sweet onion and it's seriously really good and easy.  I also use a recipe with raw honey and coleman's mustard.  Heat up the honey in a double broiler and add in the mustard.  Mix it in the with the chopped meat damn it's good.  Also avacado and raw meat goes together really well.  Especially ground beef but I don't like ground beef as much as steak.  But for raw ahi tuna I melt some raw better drop in the chunks of raw tuna and then let the raw butter solidify around the tuna and then eat it.  TASTY AS HELL!  Melts in your mouth.  Raw food does take some getting used to but once you get over the psycological barriers it becomes second nature.  Raw eggs definitely take some getting used to. 



1) You're still a douche.  You claim 6'5" and 250......nice try fatty.  How long ago did you say you were down to 230?  As far as photoshopping....simply do it from the neck down.  No one has to see your face.  Only caveat is that you have something PROVING its you.  Of course you wont and will continue to make the claims you do....and I will continue to call bullshit. 

2)  I can agree with you on the ahi.  I take spinach, feta cheese, cube up my ahi and spinkle some balsamic vinaigrette (newmans) as well as some diced tomatoes.  LOVE IT.  The expensive ahi does melt in your mouth.  I like it better VERY chilled prior to eating.   

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #404 on: April 09, 2009, 10:28:22 PM »
^^^^ Keep your pics to yourself, your physique is unimpressive.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #405 on: April 09, 2009, 10:41:32 PM »
He looks pretty good to me for his stage in the game.  I am infact only 200 lbs so I dont know shit about being huge.
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #406 on: April 10, 2009, 01:55:29 AM »
get on steroids immediately.

he was already on them,,

this is what we call in bodybuilding a bordering physiqe,,
new definition so take pen and paper and copy friends,,

a bordering physiqe is the one who though can and pass for natural any day of the week,,yes even natural competitors lie to the lie detector in wada etc,,a bordering physiqe is the type of physiqe that choses one anabolic/androgenic and go with it ,,it is usually a light one that is only there for maintinaing muscle mass while reducing body fat % and the choices are many ,,

now this fella like many so called natural lifters is holding this bordering physiqe and already truely believe he is natural as in purswayed himself into believing that due to the mininal use of hormones,,the side effects are close to nothing but !! even bordering physiqe has its character distinctions,,

again take pen and paper this is important and was not written in the bible,,i charge 1000s of dollars for this information on a daily basis,,

the bordering physiqe will blow up from within depending on doses and over all respond to hormone while body fat is reduced ,,the natural blow up is never an all out blow up,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens but this fella doesnt go this way  he maintain a specific product he uses and stict to strict diet and ,,ths is primse example of bordering physiqe on a white young male,,

now the distinctions of bordering physiqe is the way the muscle blow up in this case and doses mini blow up,,pay attention closely and you will see that the muscles on the young fella blow up from within while water is retained between the skin and muscle and adema is at distict locations around the torso mainly arms,,shoulders and face,,it is due to anabolic androgenic use ,,the use of gh by itself can and will also produce this type of leaness with the spcific adema and skin tone,, in this fella case it is minimal use of hormones as in one type of either inject or oral gh15 points to oral due to the status the lifter want to keep,,

the type of work the fella does,,the hours outside and many gym skips,,the way the brothers talk about the female gender,,all in all this is prime example of an enhanced phsyiqe of fellas who like working out and started to take it seriously

this mini blow up with the low body fat% is and only can be achieved to that level with the use of hormone/s

his face and physiqe scream it its only susides due to the dose and duration of intake which he sure knows well how to manipulate like any good natural ,,,many of them compete in wada,,this fella is not good enough yet but he can do novice wada

the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,

the only recomandation for a competitor is to get big ,,same way he is ,,meaning get officially on hormones and dont hide it or still hide it and use more constantly and more than one product ,,with this size you cant do anything on stage

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #407 on: April 10, 2009, 02:00:02 AM »
the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,

yes.. you may be right. he probably runs a small dose of test along with an anabolic.

its not a bad look really and it suits his needs.

I am now thinking of running eq and deca... alternating the two every six months.. indefinitely. that along with a low dose of testosterone.

that will make me a happy man  :)

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #408 on: April 10, 2009, 05:24:39 AM »
I don't care if he uses crack, test, finigenx magnum, plazmosis or hydro extracted monkey shit. Dude is in college bettering himself while knocking down loose sluts and still finding time for the gym.

If he is in "on" then he is smart enough to use just enough to make training and getting the results that he wants easier. If he is not on then more power to him.

now, can we get him to post some pics of those loose college sluts that he is knocking down?

the only thing that I don't like about him is that seems to have a case "Sevastase disease".."look at  me, look me at, and here is another pic"

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #409 on: April 10, 2009, 05:49:09 AM »
now, can we get him to post some pics of those loose college sluts that he is knocking down?

the guy is a moron.. I dont give a shit how much schooling he gets - he's a tool.

so i agree.. he might as well post some girls. then he wont be totally worthless.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #410 on: April 10, 2009, 06:00:26 AM »
Haha.  Keep going I'm enjoying this.  Like I said you jokers can believe anything you want.  I've actually EATEN raw meat including raw hamburger for the last two years.  I have 2-3 raw eggs after every workout.  Never been sick. 

i have a couple of questions


does raw milk taste much different to the homogenized/pasturized shit and

can you prepare raw meat any other way other than room temp/cold, like how would you prepare it if so

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #411 on: April 10, 2009, 06:16:33 AM »
you need to start training that neck of yours.

He's not on GH.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #412 on: April 10, 2009, 07:23:42 AM »
,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens


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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #413 on: April 10, 2009, 07:55:37 AM »
he was already on them,,

this is what we call in bodybuilding a bordering physiqe,,
new definition so take pen and paper and copy friends,,

a bordering physiqe is the one who though can and pass for natural any day of the week,,yes even natural competitors lie to the lie detector in wada etc,,a bordering physiqe is the type of physiqe that choses one anabolic/androgenic and go with it ,,it is usually a light one that is only there for maintinaing muscle mass while reducing body fat % and the choices are many ,,

now this fella like many so called natural lifters is holding this bordering physiqe and already truely believe he is natural as in purswayed himself into believing that due to the mininal use of hormones,,the side effects are close to nothing but !! even bordering physiqe has its character distinctions,,

again take pen and paper this is important and was not written in the bible,,i charge 1000s of dollars for this information on a daily basis,,

the bordering physiqe will blow up from within depending on doses and over all respond to hormone while body fat is reduced ,,the natural blow up is never an all out blow up,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens but this fella doesnt go this way  he maintain a specific product he uses and stict to strict diet and ,,ths is primse example of bordering physiqe on a white young male,,

now the distinctions of bordering physiqe is the way the muscle blow up in this case and doses mini blow up,,pay attention closely and you will see that the muscles on the young fella blow up from within while water is retained between the skin and muscle and adema is at distict locations around the torso mainly arms,,shoulders and face,,it is due to anabolic androgenic use ,,the use of gh by itself can and will also produce this type of leaness with the spcific adema and skin tone,, in this fella case it is minimal use of hormones as in one type of either inject or oral gh15 points to oral due to the status the lifter want to keep,,

the type of work the fella does,,the hours outside and many gym skips,,the way the brothers talk about the female gender,,all in all this is prime example of an enhanced phsyiqe of fellas who like working out and started to take it seriously

this mini blow up with the low body fat% is and only can be achieved to that level with the use of hormone/s

his face and physiqe scream it its only susides due to the dose and duration of intake which he sure knows well how to manipulate like any good natural ,,,many of them compete in wada,,this fella is not good enough yet but he can do novice wada

the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,

the only recomandation for a competitor is to get big ,,same way he is ,,meaning get officially on hormones and dont hide it or still hide it and use more constantly and more than one product ,,with this size you cant do anything on stage

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Weren't you the douche who said that as of 1/1/09 you would "reveal"  ::) who you are and stop posting??  You're posts are humorous at best.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #414 on: April 10, 2009, 08:39:51 AM »
Weren't you the douche who said that as of 1/1/09 you would "reveal"  ::) who you are and stop posting??  You're Your posts are humorous at best.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #415 on: April 10, 2009, 03:54:50 PM »
fixed.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #416 on: April 10, 2009, 04:28:37 PM »
i have a couple of questions


does raw milk taste much different to the homogenized/pasturized shit and

can you prepare raw meat any other way other than room temp/cold, like how would you prepare it if so

It tastes much better in my opinion.  A richer, more natural taste.  Same thing with raw meat.  Once your palate adapts to the taste you actually start to enjoy raw meat and when you eat cooked meat you just feel like meat isn't meant to be cooked and eating raw meat seems more natural.  Anyways, it's hard to explain but I've been eating raw for several years now on and off.  Raw milk I can drink by the gallons and I do this when cutting as well.  As far as preparing meat any other temperature than cold or room temperature well that defeats the purpose of eating it raw.  Enzymes in raw meat and some of beneficial bacteria are very heat senstive and are destroyed even if you just sear the meat a little.  I don't like to eat my meat cold raw, I leave it out for a little and let it warm up to room temperature.  There are lots of ways to prepare raw meat.  Just try and see what works for you and what you like.  A book called The Recipe for Living Without Disease is very useful in learning how to combine and eat raw foods.  Also the quality of your meat will make a big difference.  Good luck! 

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #417 on: April 10, 2009, 08:16:02 PM »
fixed.

Shit.....I knew it didnt look right.   >:(

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #418 on: April 11, 2009, 12:12:54 PM »
ive heard some about this "raw" food stuff before, but never really looked into it much.  what keeps you from getting sick from the bacteria where the meat has been exposed to air?

for example with chicken, or with ground beef, or even just a steak that hasnt been cook at all. 

Simply Huge you're making several assumptions:
First you're assuming that because something is "raw" it's automatically contaminated with bacteria, and bad bacteria at that. 
Secondly, you are assuming that because food is exposed to air that means bacteria will contaminate food.

Both of these are false assumptions and you're dismissing the robustness of the human digestive tract and body in general. We've all been brainwashed to believe our food has to be cooked, sterilized, and processed to death in this society.  And in most cases it does due to the mass production of food.  However, eating fresh raw food is entirely different.  Am I going to go to McDonald's and order my hamburger raw?  Am I going to go to a typical Von's/Pavillions/Schnuck's/Dierbergs/Albertson's/Safe-Way/Walmart and eat their generic meat and eggs that come from factory farms where the animals are treated like shit, fed shitty diets, and just plain unhealthy?  Hell no.  But I will go to a Whole Foods and get my meat that comes from grass fed beef, eggs that are cage free, from free roaming healthy chickens.  Same thing with milk.  Or go to local organic farms/join a food coop etc.  You cannot go to a farm that processes any old milk for pasteurization and expect to drink that milk raw.  The cows are in terrible health and probably have mastitis and what not and the milk will be contaminated.  However, if you go to a Grade A raw dairy farm who's cows are healthy and consist of a diet based on grass and pasture the milk is pure and healthy and void of pathogenic bacteria.

Food borne illness has very little to do with the food being raw or cooked.  Most of the food borne outbreaks lately have been from things like peanut butter, spinach, etc.  stuff you'd never even think.  Usually because of the facilities that process shit is dirty and unkept.  Raw food due to the enzymes, beneficial bacteria actually strengthen your immune system and your bodies ability to fight off pathogenic bacteria, viruses etc.  Coconut oil is a natural antiviral.  Honey was used to treat burns etc. in ancient greek and is actually used in medicine to treat burns/wounds to this day.  Honey should always be consumed raw due to the heating destroying everything good in it.  Anyways, there is a lot more to this subject and I suggest if you are really interested in it to read some of the following books:

We Want To Live  www.wewant2live.com
The Recipe for Living Without Disease
The Story of Milk by Ron Schmidt
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston. A. Price. 
Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors: The History of Nutrition in Bodybuilding by Randy Roach
www.raw-milk-facts.com for a general overview

Oh and one other thing Simply Huge, raw meat eventually turns "brown" and this has nothing to do with being contaminated with bad bacteria.  This has to do with the meat actually "fermenting" and the lack of light.  Eskimos in fact used to bury fish in the ground, dig it up weeks later and eat it.  This was called "high" meat.  LOL.  I'm not about to do that but it goes to show you that we've been brainwashed to believe our gut and digestive system is this delicate little flower that at the slightest drop of a hat we'll get sick.   MANY places like your average grocery store actually use dye to color the meat and give it that bright red color. 

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #419 on: April 11, 2009, 12:16:19 PM »
Just go to amazon and search for some of those books and read the reviews. 

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Re: Before and After Photos
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #421 on: April 11, 2009, 08:40:23 PM »
ive heard some of what you are saying before.  i know that the mass production of food has caused a lot of problems (hormones, steroids, chemicals in the animals and plants).  i watched some peta video showing what they did to cows, chickens, etc.  I do most of my shopping at Wal-mart though, and wouldnt even know hwere to go to get the good stuff.  Walmart normally has an organic section, which I've heard a lot of people say organic food is best.  I believe Paul Newman had a lot of ideas on organic foods. 

i got some sort of intestinal infection a few months ago that put me in the hospital.  i ate some fish and scallops.  lost 20 lbs in about a week.  didnt eat for almost all of that week though besides sipping on gatorade and ritz crackers.  was pretty bad.  the thought of getting something like that again would make me think twice before eating something raw. 

i may look into this though.  interesting stuff.

Wal-Mart meat is fucking nasty and they are a perfect example of how f'd up agriculture is in this country as far as commerical farms go.  I knew a butcher that worked at Sam's Club and you don't even want to hear the stories he told me.  It's disgusting.  If you can find grass fed beef that's the best. 

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #422 on: April 12, 2009, 12:34:52 AM »
MANY places like your average grocery store actually use dye to color the meat and give it that bright red color. 

Known this for some time....its VERY easy to tell the difference between blood and the red dye.  I remember every christmas our family would have the 'raw beef and onions'.  Dad had to get the beef from a special shop.  I can recall just loading up the tiny rye bread with the beef.  LOVE THAT STUFF.