Author Topic: 1999 British Grand Prix, complete show (Read 15331 times)

Bevo · « **Reply #75 on:** April 22, 2015, 06:23:26 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2015, 09:40:22 AM

Anti-Ronnie? I made an observation about Wigg's hypocrisy and it pertained to the contest he posted. He rants & raves about guts in the sport but is more than willing to overlook it in favor of Ronnie. And you're flat-out wrong again , I don't try and put Ronnie in the worst light ever , I never commented on his 25 kids , or he was arrested for impersonating an officer or he's dumb as a bag of rocks or his racist rant that Jay only beat him because he was white. I mainly keep any critique of Ronnie to his physique. So you're full of shit with your nonsense I'm trying to paint Ronnie in a bad light , he doesn't need my help.

And Dorian takes a fuck of a lot more ' abuse ' than Ronnie does. I don't try and defend him at all turns. another lie. Come back under your real account and stop hiding under a gimmick.

He looks ' awesome ' for what he was , a freak.

Ronnie got arrested for impersonating an officer?

Hulkster · « **Reply #76 on:** April 22, 2015, 06:26:38 PM »

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By ND's logic

ND has never had 'logic'

James28 · « **Reply #77 on:** April 22, 2015, 06:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 22, 2015, 06:26:38 PM

ND has never had 'logic'

Much much better overall package by Yates there.

Open your eyes

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #78 on:** April 22, 2015, 06:38:21 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on April 22, 2015, 06:23:26 PM

Ronnie got arrested for impersonating an officer?

Kinda he go pulled over and made mention that he knew the caption of the police force and said he was a cop. Not used to be a cop

Hulkster · « **Reply #79 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:18:51 PM »

Quote from: James28 on April 22, 2015, 06:31:54 PM

Much much better overall package by Yates there.

Open your eyes

only if much better overall package = calves only and nothing else lol

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:20:01 PM »

98-99 Ronnie would destroy Yates. Sorry not even close.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #81 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:26:37 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 22, 2015, 07:18:51 PM

only if much better overall package = calves only and nothing else lol

He was first and Ronnie was sixth lol

Ronnie was always way way behind Dorian. Always would be too lol

Wiggs · « **Reply #82 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:58:30 PM »

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #83 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:06:43 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2015, 07:26:37 PM

He was first and Ronnie was sixth lol

Ronnie was always way way behind Dorian. Always would be too lol

They evolved at different times... Yates lost to lee in 91. That doesnt mean a 95 Yates would lose to a 91 lee.
09-10 Phil lost to cutler but a 2011 Phil destroys cutker. So that argument dosnt carry any wieght

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #84 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:08:44 PM »

Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.

Hulkster · « **Reply #85 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:37:21 PM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on April 22, 2015, 08:08:44 PM

Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.

as good as Flex was, he still loses to a prime Ronnie and that just crushes ND..

keep in mind his only "argument" for Flex 93 beating Ronnie 99/2001 AC etc is a comparison of scorecards at two different contests 5 years apart LOL

What ND fails to understand is that the numbers assigned to a competitor are only applicable relative to the competition on stage at that particular contest.

eg. if kevin levrone gets an average score of 30 at the 98 NOC and Vince Taylor got a 25 at the 93 Mr. O, it doesn't mean that had they stood onstage at the same time that Vince would automatically beat Kevin..

they could have been assigned totally different numbers had they met etc.

the numbers are relative ONLY to who they faced that day.

its still game set match for Ronnie

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #86 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:32:48 AM »

Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 22, 2015, 08:06:43 PM

They evolved at different times... Yates lost to lee in 91. That doesnt mean a 95 Yates would lose to a 91 lee.
09-10 Phil lost to cutler but a 2011 Phil destroys cutker. So that argument dosnt carry any wieght

That's not the crux of my argument but it is part of it. Dorian lost twice in his entire career that's insane. Yates lost to Momo and he beat him in return. Yates lost to Haney and still beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round. He NEVER placed lower than second in any pro contest. He was a winning machine. Even when he lost he still made inroads , Ronnie was never close to him ever. Statistically Ronnie wouldn't beat him.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #87 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on April 22, 2015, 08:08:44 PM

Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.

Dorian would beat him. he simply meets the criteria better than Flex. The only difference between Flex 93 O and 93 ASC was conditioning. By the time the Olympia came around he was spent from cleaning up at the pro shows.

Royalty · « **Reply #88 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:37:45 AM »

Ronnie is crushing Flex in those back comparisons

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #89 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:38:15 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 22, 2015, 08:37:21 PM

as good as Flex was, he still loses to a prime Ronnie and that just crushes ND..

keep in mind his only "argument" for Flex 93 beating Ronnie 99/2001 AC etc is a comparison of scorecards at two different contests 5 years apart LOL

What ND fails to understand is that the numbers assigned to a competitor are only applicable relative to the competition on stage at that particular contest.

eg. if kevin levrone gets an average score of 30 at the 98 NOC and Vince Taylor got a 25 at the 93 Mr. O, it doesn't mean that had they stood onstage at the same time that Vince would automatically beat Kevin..

they could have been assigned totally different numbers had they met etc.

the numbers are relative ONLY to who they faced that day.

its still game set match for Ronnie

Moron he said Flex VS Dorian. remove your head from Ronnie's striated ass for a moment and pay attention. Flex 93 ASC wasn't pregnant

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #90 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:46:04 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on April 23, 2015, 05:37:45 AM

Ronnie is crushing Flex in those back comparisons

Maybe because the back double biceps shot of Ronnie is heavily sharpened

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #91 on:** April 23, 2015, 08:04:02 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 23, 2015, 05:32:48 AM

That's not the crux of my argument but it is part of it. Dorian lost twice in his entire career that's insane. Yates lost to Momo and he beat him in return. Yates lost to Haney and still beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round. He NEVER placed lower than second in any pro contest. He was a winning machine. Even when he lost he still made inroads , Ronnie was never close to him ever. Statistically Ronnie wouldn't beat him.

I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.

But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will

Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again

Royalty · « **Reply #92 on:** April 23, 2015, 08:31:21 AM »

Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 23, 2015, 08:04:02 AM

I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.

But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will

Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again

There is something that looks less than impressive about Ronnie's 2003 Front double bicep pose (whereas in 1999 it was epic). Ronnie was too big in 2003. Too much muscle.

Hulkster · « **Reply #93 on:** April 23, 2015, 05:20:05 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on April 23, 2015, 08:31:21 AM

There is something that looks less than impressive about Ronnie's 2003 Front double bicep pose (whereas in 1999 it was epic). Ronnie was too big in 2003. Too much muscle.

thats because 99 was arguably the best overall Ronnie ever looked

RocketSwitch625 · « **Reply #94 on:** April 24, 2015, 02:24:54 AM »

Coleman looks terrible in just about every pic that's been posted in this thread. Any version of Yates would wipe the floor with him. Sulkster is still living in a dream world after all these years.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #95 on:** April 24, 2015, 08:18:53 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 23, 2015, 05:20:05 PM

thats because 99 was arguably the best overall Ronnie ever looked

No , it's not and never has been. We both know this , 1998 or 2001 ASC and be both know why because his conditioning was spot-on in those contests

Ronnie stating the obvious

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #96 on:** April 24, 2015, 08:36:48 AM »

Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 23, 2015, 08:04:02 AM

I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.

But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will

Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again

95 Yates would beat Ronnie 03 for the same reasons Shawn Ray beat much heavier men who were not as complete and had inferior conditioning