Phil Heath

[sgt. d]

Do Incline and Flat Bench DB press with the DB together and palms facing each other.

[brianX]

Brutal tangents, monster pseudoscience, and epic egos.

[haider]

Come off that split training, try some of the higher frequency stuff. Use periodisation to your advatnage, my friend

That is some INCREDIBLE progress Matt. Much respect. Crazy transformation 

[Necrosis]

there is genetic superiority matt, you dont seem to understand that. phil would be much bigger then you or adonis naturally. why are some people naturally lean and some not? it has to do with genes. gear is a big part but seriously im a natty and absolutely dwarf you. but you seem to be able to stay pretty lean. point is i might have better genetics for strength and size and you for metabolism. there are genetic mutants and your generalization is a slap in the face to logic.

[GN138]

Phil was larger, leaner and had better lines/ symmetry than most on this board when he was natural and barely lifting. At first it pissed me off but why hate a guy if he's gifted in a certain area. The sky is limit for Phil, not just because of his physique but also for the person he is.

Anyone who doesn't like Phil should go meet him in person and see if your ideas about him change.

[Jerryme7]

Matt C...

I got up to 220 pounds naturally.....when I decided to "better myself" I eventually got to be over 260. At one point....I almost broke 290 pounds but I almost became a fatass because I just ate and ate  

In high school, I use to play sports at 150-160 (wrestling) then 170.

When I got out of high school, I grew even more and broke the 200 pound barrier.

When I was younger, I took the advice from people I knew from the gym to start eating and training better and it has paid off. Knowledge is key...

If someone were to tell me in my youth that I would eventually get to be over 270-280 pounds at one point in my life, I would have never believed them.

*My mom is not even 5 feet tall. My dad is only about 5'7" or 5'8". Yet Im 5'10" and a half....
*I was always teased about being a bony kid in my youth.
*I had a really fast metabolism back then, that no matter what I ate, I would always burn it. I was the typical hardgainer (ectomorph).  

I would have never broken this limitation if I didnt learn how to from people that taught me the right way....

Its true that this sport and its athletes are enhanced but to say its only drugs is downright crazy. You are forgetting about hard work such as training, eating, dieting, sleeping, etc. Bodybuilders are athletes and put an incredible amount of stress on their bodies challenge themselves to be the best they can be.

I believe that limitations can be broken to some degree but it takes a lot of hard work and dedication and persistance.  

Ive seen some people from getbig in person and I ask myself, "do some of these people really train or are they just on here to blast people and put people down?" If you dont go to the gym regularly or arent a fan of this sport...then why are you here? Why cause stress or hardship to someone else's life?

There is so much we can learn from Phil Heath and the pros on this board. Why all this bashing, people?

I for one am glad that Phil has posted back on here because I am going to learn from any advice he gives us. And I hope you guys dont push him off of here...

[The True Adonis]

there is genetic superiority matt, you dont seem to understand that. phil would be much bigger then you or adonis naturally. why are some people naturally lean and some not? it has to do with genes. gear is a big part but seriously im a natty and absolutely dwarf you. but you seem to be able to stay pretty lean. point is i might have better genetics for strength and size and you for metabolism. there are genetic mutants and your generalization is a slap in the face to logic.

Leaness has to do with the food you consume and not genetics.

You do not inherit 350 grams of protein in your mouth and an over-abundance of calories from your parents causing you to be fat.

It is individual on how food is processed, but at ANY LEVEL OR AGE, adjustments can be made to reflect any desired result....That is.........IF.........yo u have my FORMULA. 

[figgs]

Hey, what's up Phil? Welcome to Getbig!

I got on this thread a bit too late, as I didn't even know you were posting in it! Well I have a real serious question which relates to something I'm extremely curious about.

Bodybuilding, as a "sport", is something that is extraordinary in it's beauty and art. Bodybuilding as a lifestyle has the potential to transform the qualities of one's personality by teaching discipline, motivation, work ethic and a constant reassurance of success (such as through size and strength increases). Bodybuilding and my family are the most positive things in my life right now. It's something I feel I was destined to be a part of. I knew that ever since before I can remember, going back to me as a young child watching my older brother in awe while he lifted weights in his room.

You seem to be quite enthusiastic about pursuing success in this sport. You want to be the best you can possibly be. I admire that and respect you for it. The one thing that seems to poison my soul is the current condition of this sport. How can I live my dream of becoming the best bodybuilder in the world? How can I, while knowing that this sport, our sport, is nothing but a black hole? How can I decide to dedicate myself 100% to pursuing what is now a mere fantasy when I know that I won't be offered care and support through the business of professional bodybuilding? I'm talking about your contracted pay, medical coverage (or lack of), and prize earnings. Unless I'm #1 or 2 in the world in the sport, is it possible to make a living, for both myself and a future family? Or do I have to sell myself to the Gay porn industry? Do I have to sell drugs? Will I end up getting busted for selling fake GH? Will I go to jail for life for burning a corpse in the back of my jaguar? Will I die from all the drugs that I'll have to take as my bosses demand that I must become even bigger and freakier?

How do you want the legacy of Phil Heath to be remembered?

[Jerryme7]

Hey Figgs...for medical insurance, just marry someone who has medical insurance and have them put you on their plan

[TDK]

Phil - If you ever win a show in the future when you're out of shape then your board name might work against you lol.

[thegift]

Hey, what's up Phil? Welcome to Getbig!

I got on this thread a bit too late, as I didn't even know you were posting in it! Well I have a real serious question which relates to something I'm extremely curious about.

Bodybuilding, as a "sport", is something that is extraordinary in it's beauty and art. Bodybuilding as a lifestyle has the potential to transform the qualities of one's personality by teaching discipline, motivation, work ethic and a constant reassurance of success (such as through size and strength increases). Bodybuilding and my family are the most positive things in my life right now. It's something I feel I was destined to be a part of. I knew that ever since before I can remember, going back to me as a young child watching my older brother in awe while he lifted weights in his room.

You seem to be quite enthusiastic about pursuing success in this sport. You want to be the best you can possibly be. I admire that and respect you for it. The one thing that seems to poison my soul is the current condition of this sport. How can I live my dream of becoming the best bodybuilder in the world? How can I, while knowing that this sport, our sport, is nothing but a black hole? How can I decide to dedicate myself 100% to pursuing what is now a mere fantasy when I know that I won't be offered care and support through the business of professional bodybuilding? I'm talking about your contracted pay, medical coverage (or lack of), and prize earnings. Unless I'm #1 or 2 in the world in the sport, is it possible to make a living, for both myself and a future family? Or do I have to sell myself to the Gay porn industry? Do I have to sell drugs? Will I end up getting busted for selling fake GH? Will I go to jail for life for burning a corpse in the back of my jaguar? Will I die from all the drugs that I'll have to take as my bosses demand that I must become even bigger and freakier?

How do you want the legacy of Phil Heath to be remembered?

Thanks bro for the post, I really appreciate it. As for pursuing bodybuilding as a career, I was clueless because I didn't think of myself as a person who could do just that. I got into the sport as something to keep me in shape and once I won more shows, friends and family pushed me to try for more. It was me that always said that I was just trying to be the best I can be and everything else will fall into place, leaving me no disappointment for wishful thinking of being a pro bber. Once I won the Jr's I was contracted through Weider and that allowed me to compete knowing that there were some duckets ($$$) involved. I was still working a full-time gig at Bally's and then realized that I can survive with this contract, so I dedicated myself to win the USA and then opened doors for more endorsements. I later re-signed with AMI/Weider and then with Met-Rx this past summer which has now allowed me to focus even more onto my goals and also having some extra coin if you will. I didn't have to do any dealings and especially none of that gay-for-pay-garbage along the way because I wasn't afraid to work and at times suffer financially to attain my goal. As for medical coverage, I am currently getting that taken care of through my athlete rep Bob Chic as he has work very hard to get a medical plan for us, so I am gonna take advantage.

Lastly, I would like to leave a legacy with bodybuilding as someone who cared enough to take time out and give back to its fans and community while illustrating what a true professional really is. I also want us bbers to be respected for our hard work, self-discipline, intelligence and compassion by others in mainstream society because we deserve it just like other athletes.

[thegift]

Phil - If you ever win a show in the future when you're out of shape then your board name might work against you lol.

I know right!

Let's just hope that I always come in shape.

[The True Adonis]

Thanks bro for the post, I really appreciate it. As for pursuing bodybuilding as a career, I was clueless because I didn't think of myself as a person who could do just that. I got into the sport as something to keep me in shape and once I won more shows, friends and family pushed me to try for more. It was me that always said that I was just trying to be the best I can be and everything else will fall into place, leaving me no disappointment for wishful thinking of being a pro bber. Once I won the Jr's I was contracted through Weider and that allowed me to compete knowing that there were some duckets ($$$) involved. I was still working a full-time gig at Bally's and then realized that I can survive with this contract, so I dedicated myself to win the USA and then opened doors for more endorsements. I later re-signed with AMI/Weider and then with Met-Rx this past summer which has now allowed me to focus even more onto my goals and also having some extra coin if you will. I didn't have to do any dealings and especially none of that gay-for-pay-garbage along the way because I wasn't afraid to work and at times suffer financially to attain my goal. As for medical coverage, I am currently getting that taken care of through my athlete rep Bob Chic as he has work very hard to get a medical plan for us, so I am gonna take advantage.

Lastly, I would like to leave a legacy with bodybuilding as someone who cared enough to take time out and give back to its fans and community while illustrating what a true professional really is. I also want us bbers to be respected for our hard work, self-discipline, intelligence and compassion by others in mainstream society because we deserve it just like other athletes.

Phil the last part sticks out in my mind.

But do you not agree in order for that to happen, the drugs will have to go?  That is really the issue that is giving your industry two black eyes.   I mean, if they get rid of drugs and do things totally different, don`t you think you will still remain The Gift?

So why not push it in that direction.  500 fucking people were at the Olympia pre-judging, 7000 total at the end of the night.  Don`t you think that a bit sad that there are more people attending a Cat Show in Utah then the Mr. Olympia?   What are you going to do about that?  Don`t tell me nothing, because you may just be in the position to do something.

[GN138]

TA - Why do you think Bodybuilding needs to be the first to clean up it's act? We're a small population. Wouldn't it better if baseball, basketball, football, track and field and other olympic sports cleaned up first? They are viewed by a lot more people worldwide than bodybuilding. If we did clean up bodybuilding a few things would happen: No one would notice (because BBing isn't mainstream), attendance at shows would be down immensely (how often have you seen more than 1000 people at a local show? Wait....you've probably never been to a show so you wouldn't know) and the "sport" would shrink and die. All we would have left would be these boards and a few underground mags.

If you think that by cleaning up BBing that it will help the "sport" then you're mistaken. I do agree that the drug freaks don't hold a candle compared to someone like Phil, physique wise. People need to realized that it's not just about the drugs. They can be a tool but shouldn't be the main factor when building a better body.

Not to cut on you but if everyone looked like you at the shows I go to....I would stop going. Why? Because I have friends that look like that and I lift in a gym filled with folks that look like that. Why pay to see the exact same thing I'm around everyday? Put it this way: If you had a fat and ugly girlfriend would you pay to see the exact same thing at a strip club? No....you wanna see something better.

[MikeThaMachine]

Phil is just awesome, he makes all the other BBers on here seem second tier (except S. Ray but he's never serious) and I don't mean on stage. He has nothing but great responses to everyone

[SteelePegasus]

Phil the last part sticks out in my mind.

But do you not agree in order for that to happen, the drugs will have to go?  That is really the issue that is giving your industry two black eyes.   I mean, if they get rid of drugs and do things totally different, don`t you think you will still remain The Gift?

So why not push it in that direction.  500 fucking people were at the Olympia pre-judging, 7000 total at the end of the night.  Don`t you think that a bit sad that there are more people attending a Cat Show in Utah then the Mr. Olympia?   What are you going to do about that?  Don`t tell me nothing, because you may just be in the position to do something.

I would hate to see you join Flex Wheeler and Mike Mattarazzo,rumbling through the Dumpster behind Wieder Headquarters.

TA , as you are well aware there are natural federations out there.  Where is the fan base for them?

with your superior genetics you should be dominating them.  They won't be able to compete against you, why don't you go and prove me right.

[The True Adonis]

TA , as you are well aware there are natural federations out there.  Where is the fan base for them?

with your superior genetics you should be dominating them.  They won't be able to compete against you, why don't you go and prove me right.

There is no fan base in any of it.

[figgs]

Thanks bro for the post, I really appreciate it. As for pursuing bodybuilding as a career, I was clueless because I didn't think of myself as a person who could do just that. I got into the sport as something to keep me in shape and once I won more shows, friends and family pushed me to try for more. It was me that always said that I was just trying to be the best I can be and everything else will fall into place, leaving me no disappointment for wishful thinking of being a pro bber. Once I won the Jr's I was contracted through Weider and that allowed me to compete knowing that there were some duckets ($$$) involved. I was still working a full-time gig at Bally's and then realized that I can survive with this contract, so I dedicated myself to win the USA and then opened doors for more endorsements. I later re-signed with AMI/Weider and then with Met-Rx this past summer which has now allowed me to focus even more onto my goals and also having some extra coin if you will. I didn't have to do any dealings and especially none of that gay-for-pay-garbage along the way because I wasn't afraid to work and at times suffer financially to attain my goal. As for medical coverage, I am currently getting that taken care of through my athlete rep Bob Chic as he has work very hard to get a medical plan for us, so I am gonna take advantage.

Lastly, I would like to leave a legacy with bodybuilding as someone who cared enough to take time out and give back to its fans and community while illustrating what a true professional really is. I also want us bbers to be respected for our hard work, self-discipline, intelligence and compassion by others in mainstream society because we deserve it just like other athletes.

Learning about you from this thread alone, I wish nothing more than your rise to the top of this sport. And I'm sure that with your charisma, inteligence and agenda, you will become a bodybuilding legend. And, as a fan, I wish you luck! Thanks for such a thoughtful response!

I understand you're a reader, and so I recommend a book, Bob Paris' Gorilla Suit. I recommend this book to you because it woke me up to the dark side of bodybuilding.

I'd like to share an excerpt from Bob Paris' Gorilla Suit, one that changed the direction of my life and put me into better perspective as to what I should do with it.

"A vision-a fantastical, imaginary movie clip-has continually run through my mind during the last year. I am climbing, climbing, climbing all alone, to the top of this enormous mountain. I fall sometimes-a lot, actually; hurt myself; get up; climb some more; fall down again. It seems as if I've been climbing this mountain forever. After a while, when I'm close enough to the top to see it through breaks in the cloud cover, I pull out my map, to see where I am and discover that I've gone up the wrong mountain. Now, this mountain that I'm on is a high one-I can tell this from the map it's every bit as high as the one I thought I was climbing. It's just not the right one. The other mountain is the one that many dream of climbing because the hand of fate has lent it greater prestige. It is easy to get them confused; the way my map is drawn the two look a great deal alike. But it's still the wrong one. And I get mad at myself, and I cuss out the mountain, and I cuss out the mapmaker, and I cuss out all the rocks I've tripped over and the crevices I've fallen into on the way up. But in spite of all that cussing, I'm still on this mountain."

It's really quite depressing from this perspective. And, Phil, I don't try to discourage your success in this sport because it's quite clear that the sport has done you well. What I'm saying is that deep in my heart I love bodybuilding and to not be able to put that part of my heart into this sport is something I have to will myself to do for my own good. That's because, unfortunetely, not all the athletes are treated like "The Gift".

If you're goal is to become the champion, you must make sure you have the power of influence. And use that influence to make the billion-dollar industry that is bodybuilding a place where the dreamers may be able to one day step on a stage, rise to the top of their beloved sport, and share in the glory.

Respect

[alexxx]

Hey Phil keep kicking ass! You have my support!

BTW this is offtopic but would like to know if you ever got into any fights/fighting? I only ask because there are so many bodybuilders switching to fighting, probably to preserve their vital organs.., has that thought ever cross your mind? Flex, Cook, Grundy, Matt Duval, Richard Jones and the such just to name a few.

[AVBG]

Hey Phil keep kicking ass! You have my support!

BTW this is offtopic but would like to know if you ever got into any fights/fighting? I only ask because there are so many bodybuilders switching to fighting, probably to preserve their vital organs.., has that though ever crossed your mind? Flex, Cook, Grundy, Matt Duval, Richard Jones and the such just to name a few.

Not a bad post bro. 

[alexxx]

Not a bad post bro. 

How else could it be.

[AVBG]

How else could it be.

Shock horror.. don't tell me Ron brainwashed you whilst in time-out?

[alexxx]

Shock horror.. don't tell me Ron brainwashed you whilst in time-out?

Nobody could brainwash me! I am not as weak as Cassius Clay!!!

[The True Adonis]

Learning about you from this thread alone, I wish nothing more than your rise to the top of this sport. And I'm sure that with your charisma, inteligence and agenda, you will become a bodybuilding legend. And, as a fan, I wish you luck! Thanks for such a thoughtful response!

I understand you're a reader, and so I recommend a book, Bob Paris' Gorilla Suit. I recommend this book to you because it woke me up to the dark side of bodybuilding.

I'd like to share an excerpt from Bob Paris' Gorilla Suit, one that changed the direction of my life and put me into better perspective as to what I should do with it.

"A vision-a fantastical, imaginary movie clip-has continually run through my mind during the last year. I am climbing, climbing, climbing all alone, to the top of this enormous mountain. I fall sometimes-a lot, actually; hurt myself; get up; climb some more; fall down again. It seems as if I've been climbing this mountain forever. After a while, when I'm close enough to the top to see it through breaks in the cloud cover, I pull out my map, to see where I am and discover that I've gone up the wrong mountain. Now, this mountain that I'm on is a high one-I can tell this from the map it's every bit as high as the one I thought I was climbing. It's just not the right one. The other mountain is the one that many dream of climbing because the hand of fate has lent it greater prestige. It is easy to get them confused; the way my map is drawn the two look a great deal alike. But it's still the wrong one. And I get mad at myself, and I cuss out the mountain, and I cuss out the mapmaker, and I cuss out all the rocks I've tripped over and the crevices I've fallen into on the way up. But in spite of all that cussing, I'm still on this mountain."

It's really quite depressing from this perspective. And, Phil, I don't try to discourage your success in this sport because it's quite clear that the sport has done you well. What I'm saying is that deep in my heart I love bodybuilding and to not be able to put that part of my heart into this sport is something I have to will myself to do for my own good. That's because, unfortunetely, not all the athletes are treated like "The Gift".

If you're goal is to become the champion, you must make sure you have the power of influence. And use that influence to make the billion-dollar industry that is bodybuilding a place where the dreamers may be able to one day step on a stage, rise to the top of their beloved sport, and share in the glory.

Respect

True,

It is hard to leave Brokeback. 

[SteelePegasus]

Phil seems like a nice guy and I wish him all of the success in the world but...

he also seems like I "won't rock the boat" kind of guy also.  My impression is that he will go alone with what the powers that be says.  I am not knocking him just and observation.

And for gods sake will he stop thanking his girlfriend Jen in every interview