fine Phil,my girlfriend hates 99.9% bodybuilders .....by chance she happened to be passing by while I was reading this thread and saw your 1st contest pic. Needless to say she is now a fan of yours I told her that you were trying to pack on some real size, that is when is she walked away shaking her head in disapproval. I only bring this up to segway to the point of taking BB mainstream. You mention this as a goal of yours, but perception is reality. And America's perception is "steroids are bad" and that BB is "all drugs". In their eyes taking creatine and whey protein is equal to taking steroids. What are your plans on educating the masses?
For God's sake bro, could you please stop talking about your girlfriend...just kidding bro, no harm. Some girl's are going to have their own perceptions as to what looks good, as we can look too big offseason. However, I am doing what has worked in the past, just taking my training to the next level. If someone is to think taking creatine and protein equal to taking steriods, then they are completely ignorant and probably have no interest in health and fitness. As for my plans on educating these ppl, I actually have had a dinner metting with one of our new Colorado candidates for governor and mentioned how important it is to educate ppl on health & fitness. Being apart of one's state governor board of health & fitness can help bring new light to this topic and that is what I hope to accomplish.
Key word here is IF he doesn't go overboard. Hopefully his mentality is closer to that of Shawn Ray or Bob Paris and not other pros who do as much as possible to get as big as possible as fast as possible. IF he keeps progressing as he has and doesn't take things too far he will do very, very well.
Shawn could have won the Olympia if he had just upped the dosage a little.
Don't you worry about that because I will never get greedy and sacrifice my lines for low-level mass. Remember, I'm 26 not 36 and also haven't trained that long, so I will probably continue to grow. Now, when do I draw the line, well let's just say that I'm no idiot.
You said you were 196 and not as sharp as you were at 192.And you weren`t in your absolute best condition at 192.So the 180s would have been ideal.
I disagree because you weren't at the contest. Obviously the Colorado Pro show was my best conditioning, but my first show would be second to that as it was pretty good.
Sorry Phil. You must gain much more mass. If you are in THIS condition,you should be way bigger.OK you have a nice line. But,youll end up like Darrem of this year.I hope you best wishes.
Chicks dig muscle!!!
In the short-term, yes.In the long run, chicks dig earning power and consistency.
Translation = I used to hate all the big guys in school because they got all the chicks, and so I spent all my weekends learning to earn a $1 while the other guys got laid(Just telling the truth
Why do you disagree?You said your first show you were 192 and that you were not at your best. Come to think of it, there is a margin of error for scales and given the fluxuation in bodily fluids, you would have measured in the 180s anyways on certain sclaes.So if you were not at your best for your show at 192, then how would you not be better in the 180s?
When you lose too much you can sacrifice necessary fullness and hardness. I lost about 10lbs of water from the day before and I was pretty hard. Of course I'm going to say that it wasn't my best showing because it was my very first contest. I weighed in at 192 for that show in the morning as the promoter offered it for many of us because the show was far away from Denver. I think if I would've been in the 180s then I would've been flat and we all know that it is still a muscle contest, with conditioning of course. It's very similar to this year's Colorado Pro show as I came in shredded and could've lost more, but I would've lost muscle and probably come in like crap.
Another question for you Phil,If you could look ANY POSSIBLE way, what would be your ideal weight?What would be your dream goal?
I don't think you should set goals for yourself by ideal weight. Many people just want to face the challenge of getting the most they can out of each muscle.
Don't you worry about that because I will never get greedy and sacrifice my lines for low-level mass. Remember, I'm 26not 36 and also haven't trained that long, so I will probably continue to grow. Now, when do I draw the line, well let's just say that I'm no idiot.
lol.Frank McGrath turned pro at 24! I'm not sure if he would have if he competed in the USA nationals, but he also did very well at a young age....and copious amounts of juice. If Phil just trained and ate and went clean he would shrink. All three play a role. That is really all TA and I are saying.
Phil is still young, and is going to grow just from the training and eating. When he's 240lbs, in the shape he was in at the Colorado pro, he'll be able to stand next to anyone.
