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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2006, 09:32:29 PM »
So with the mountains of material from the moon (rocks, dust, pictures, video, audio), the whole operation itself, and all the people and orgs involved your entire case is based on 2 pictures that anyone can alter?

Radio waves travel at the speed of light.  That doesn't make for much of a delay.  Maybe a second at most.  

...But hey, believe what you want to.

The head of the Nasa project took a trip to antarctica for rock collection the year before apollo.  Then he resigned ONE DAY before the Apollo launch.  There were 13 mysterious deaths.  

Read up on it.  Light does some creepy shit there.  Like, everything will be in a shadow and the US flag will be all lit up, with the sun BEHIND it.  Or the fact that the stationary camera pans when the ship takes back off.  Or, the two backdrops identical with different foregrounds.  Or the PSI in their spacesuits.  It was very high and their would have been ZERO slack.  believe what you wish.  It was a psyop to win the cold war and it worked.  believe it or don't.  But they don't doctor pics for no reason.   NASA has refused to address these questions.  Believe what you wish.  $30B was spent on it, USSR lost, and we won.  But for anyone to mock me before looking at the evidence, well, piss off, cause you're ignorant of facts.

If you can answer my Qs, I am all ears.  NASA doctored pics for zero reason? nahhh



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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2006, 09:34:56 PM »
The head of the Nasa project took a trip to antarctica for rock collection the year before apollo.  Then he resigned ONE DAY before the Apollo launch.  There were 13 mysterious deaths.  

Read up on it.  Light does some creepy shit there.  Like, everything will be in a shadow and the US flag will be all lit up, with the sun BEHIND it.  Or the fact that the stationary camera pans when the ship takes back off.  Or, the two backdrops identical with different foregrounds.  Or the PSI in their spacesuits.  It was very high and their would have been ZERO slack.  believe what you wish.  It was a psyop to win the cold war and it worked.  believe it or don't.  But they don't doctor pics for no reason.   NASA has refused to address these questions.  Believe what you wish.  $30B was spent on it, USSR lost, and we won.  But for anyone to mock me before looking at the evidence, well, piss off, cause you're ignorant of facts.

If you can answer my Qs, I am all ears.  NASA doctored pics for zero reason? nahhh





I want to know is how they can spend $30B on the "fraudulent moon landing" yet it remains a "secret"?


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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2006, 09:38:11 PM »
The head of the Nasa project took a trip to antarctica for rock collection the year before apollo.  Then he resigned ONE DAY before the Apollo launch.  There were 13 mysterious deaths.  

Read up on it.  Light does some creepy shit there.  Like, everything will be in a shadow and the US flag will be all lit up, with the sun BEHIND it.  Or the fact that the stationary camera pans when the ship takes back off.  Or, the two backdrops identical with different foregrounds.  Or the PSI in their spacesuits.  It was very high and their would have been ZERO slack.  believe what you wish.  It was a psyop to win the cold war and it worked.  believe it or don't.  But they don't doctor pics for no reason.   NASA has refused to address these questions.  Believe what you wish.  $30B was spent on it, USSR lost, and we won.  But for anyone to mock me before looking at the evidence, well, piss off, cause you're ignorant of facts.

If you can answer my Qs, I am all ears.  NASA doctored pics for zero reason? nahhh




Anyone within NASA (or anyone period) could've doctored those pics and released em.  You're so quick to see what isn't there.  

Like I said... my buddy already tried to throw all this shit in my face and I took it seriously for about 2 days and looked at all kinds of pics and video he showed me.  I couldn't find anything I saw that was blatently out of place and everything he tried to point out could be fairly easily explained.

Don't accuse me of being ignorant when you're the asshole trying to make up shit just because you don't trust the government.  Conspiracy theorists are always the same..... sad.

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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2006, 09:39:07 PM »
I want to know is how they can spend $30B on the "fraudulent moon landing" yet it remains a "secret"?

What do you mean?  They monitored themselves.  The cash could have been used for secret missions that don't get funding, it could have been used to put in Nixon's swimming pool.  how the hell should I know?  

Many believe the capsule orbited the earth while we all watched a good tv show.  who knows.  There was no reason to doctor pics. There was no reason those spacesuits didn't fill with oxygen when the PSI should have had them with higher pressure than 5 PSI.  They were flapping in the wind.  yes the wind.  It makes the flag blow the whole time.  And there are gravity issues, pic issues...

anyway, it's irrelevant.  they doctored pics and wouldn't say why.  Several people did come forward and they had heart attacks and car accidents before they were to testify.  Call it crazy coincidences, that's fine.  I'm not trying to convert anyone.  I was asked, and as an educated man who has studied it, I do believe it was used to beat the USSR and gain the tech edge, and it worked.  

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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2006, 09:39:10 PM »
IS NOBODY TALKING TO ME!!!! I'M DEREK ANTHONY GODDAMNIT!!!!!

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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2006, 09:40:30 PM »
Anyone within NASA (or anyone period) could've doctored those pics and released em.  You're so quick to see what isn't there.  

No.  they came out in the NASA batch.  And NASA says to this day that every pic is legit.

Brix, remember that people used to mock those who believed JFK was killed in a conspiracy.  Do they still get mocked?

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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2006, 09:44:11 PM »
He said radio waves not sound. They're not yelling from the moon

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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2006, 09:44:52 PM »
What do you mean?  They monitored themselves.  The cash could have been used for secret missions that don't get funding, it could have been used to put in Nixon's swimming pool.  how the hell should I know?  

  


Don't get angry with me!  >:(

What I mean is, $30b was spent.. surely there would be a money trail..$30B is hard to spend without being noticed. The people/employees would have surely leaked some info to the public?


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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2006, 09:47:15 PM »
No.  they came out in the NASA batch.  And NASA says to this day that every pic is legit.

Brix, remember that people used to mock those who believed JFK was killed in a conspiracy.  Do they still get mocked?

I'm not going to spend all night arguing with you over this.  But I will say that the effect of crosshairs being blurred out by a brighter background image is common.  And I say that as a rifle hunter and an amateur astronomer.

No they're not still mocked.  At least not all the time.  But this whole "we never went to the moon" bullshit is just that.  Please don't breed... I beg you.

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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2006, 09:47:39 PM »
What I mean is, $30b was spent.. surely there would be a money trail..$30B is hard to spend without being noticed. The people/employees would have surely leaked some info to the public?

$2.3 TRILLION leaked from the Pentagon and we've never heard another word about it.  (Rummy announced via DoD on Sept 10, 2001)

When you collect, distribute, monitor, and spend all the money, it's not hard to put it anywhere you wish.  

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« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2006, 09:50:47 PM »
240 is right there for the government to hide 30B is like anyone of us hiding 500 bucks. It's a drop in the bucket

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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2006, 09:51:52 PM »
I'm not going to spend all night arguing with you over this.  But I will say that the effect of crosshairs being blurred out by a brighter background image is common.  And I say that as a rifle hunter and an amateur astronomer.

No they're not still mocked.  At least not all the time.  But this whole "we never went to the moon" bullshit is just that.  Please don't breed... I beg you.

Don't be a cock.  You wanna go there?  You're a fucking dumb shit for buying that war lie.  You're risking your skin for a lie, dude.  You are the biggest sucker in the room.  Sorry, but you wanna insult me on a breeding level?  You bought the biggest lie of our lives.  So don't go there. I reserve my judgment of your choice until you go there.

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« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2006, 09:53:06 PM »
Don't be a cock.  You wanna go there?  You're a fucking dumb shit for buying that war lie.  You're risking your skin for a lie, dude.  You are the biggest sucker in the room.  Sorry, but you wanna insult me on a breeding level?  You bought the biggest lie of our lives.  So don't go there. I reserve my judgment of your choice until you go there.

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« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2006, 09:54:53 PM »
240 is right there for the government to hide 30B is like anyone of us hiding 500 bucks. It's a drop in the bucket

I dont think its a question of "hiding" the $$, rather being able to spend it discreetly..

For example and this is a hypothetical scenario... The people or person who built and designed the "moon" (soundstage) would have been paid some serious $$$. Surely these people would have gone back home to their wives/partners after a tough day on the site and blabbed. I know I would have!

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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2006, 09:59:15 PM »
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yep.  i tire of people who haven't researched the questions about things, lecturing like they know the argument.  it's like a 7th grader in remedial math getting on a forum and telling a calc professor his numbers are wrong.  You are in the belly of the beast. Enjoy it.  But when you come home, please open your eyes and stop buying lies.

or, fuck it, you keep buying the bullshit.  Stupid people deserve the shitty circumstances they put themselves in. 

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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2006, 10:00:05 PM »
Oh, I think 240 is crazy to believe the moon landing was false. That's just insane. I was just commenting on the governments end of "laundering" money. If you google apollo 11 conspiracy you will find answers to all of 240's questions. The flag, the pictures, all of it. I just hate pasting articles and I'm to lazy to reword each one.

here's one exerp of an article answering the crosshairs question.

Bad: Crosshairs were etched in the astronauts' cameras to better help measure objects in the pictures. However, in several images, it looks like the objects are actually in front of the crosshairs, which is impossible if the crosshairs were inside the camera! Therefore, the images were faked.

Good: This argument is pretty silly. Do the HBs think that NASA had painted crosshairs on the set behind the astronauts? I heard one HB claim the crosshairs were added later on, and NASA had messed up some of the imaging. That's ridiculous! Why add in crosshairs later? Cameras equipped with crosshairs have been used for a long time, and it would have been easy to simply use some to take pictures on the faked set. Clearly, the HBs are wrong here, but the images do look funny. What happened?

What happened becomes clearer when you look more closely at the images. The times it looks like an object is in front of the crosshair (because the crosshair looks blocked by the object) is when the object photographed is white. The crosshair is black. Have you ever taken an image that is overexposed? White parts bleed into the film around them, making them look white too. That's all that happened here; the white object in the image ``fills in'' the black crosshair. It's a matter of contrast: the crosshair becomes invisible because the white part overwhelms the film. This is basic photography.

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« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2006, 10:01:26 PM »
I dont think its a question of "hiding" the $$, rather being able to spend it discreetly..

For example and this is a hypothetical scenario... The people or person who built and designed the "moon" (soundstage) would have been paid some serious $$$. Surely these people would have gone back home to their wives/partners after a tough day on the site and blabbed. I know I would have!

Not necessarily. You're assuming they would have had to hire a gossipy hollywood DOP for the day.

I'm sure the American covert agencies have their own AV personnel.

Just like I doubt the CIA has to go to Berlitz for language translations either. They have that in-house.
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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2006, 10:02:59 PM »
yep.  i tire of people who haven't researched the questions about things, lecturing like they know the argument.  it's like a 7th grader in remedial math getting on a forum and telling a calc professor his numbers are wrong.  You are in the belly of the beast. Enjoy it.  But when you come home, please open your eyes and stop buying lies.

or, f**k it, you keep buying the bullshit.  Stupid people deserve the shitty circumstances they put themselves in. 

You're right.. keep making an ass of yourself and an ass is what everyone will see.  Congrats!

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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2006, 10:06:57 PM »
i don't bring it up. i was asked what my opinion is.  My opnion is that in 69, we had RFK killed, vietnam in full swing, woodstock personifying a new defiant voice, and they needed a success.   You can believe forever that the govt lies about lots of little things (most ppl agree on this) but they would never lie about big things.

Is that rational?  A govt who regularly lies about many many small things would never dream of lying about a big thing?  

It's what I believe.  Do I care that it happened?  not really.  Am i trying to convert anyone? No.  it is what it is.  A lot of people feel the same way.  Who knows, mayube time will give us more answers.  but it's over now and nothing we know will change much.

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« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2006, 10:12:05 PM »
Just in case ... pretty cool board.. 8) http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php

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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2006, 10:14:06 PM »
i don't bring it up. i was asked what my opinion is.  My opnion is that in 69, we had RFK killed, vietnam in full swing, woodstock personifying a new defiant voice, and they needed a success.   You can believe forever that the govt lies about lots of little things (most ppl agree on this) but they would never lie about big things.

Is that rational?  A govt who regularly lies about many many small things would never dream of lying about a big thing?  

It's what I believe.  Do I care that it happened?  not really.  Am i trying to convert anyone? No.  it is what it is.  A lot of people feel the same way.  Who knows, mayube time will give us more answers.  but it's over now and nothing we know will change much.

I never believed the gov't was incapable of lying.  I don't even know anyone who thinks the gov't doesn't lie.

But this bullshit has so many holes in it that to actually believe it is to be irrational, period.

C'mon dude, even if they tried to lie about this the gov't wouldn't be able to get as far as they did before SO MANY people involved blew the whistle.  Funny how the fact that we went to the moon wasn't even questioned until this conspiracy craze of the late 90's up to now.  But some people just want to find things to make up stories about so have at it.

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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2006, 10:15:47 PM »
brix,

are you trying to convince me? Or yourself?

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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2006, 10:19:10 PM »
brix,

are you trying to convince me? Or yourself?

Niether... I'm just stating that arguing about this is fuckin rediculus.  Actually I'm mad at myself for even entertaining the fact that anyone who actually believes this never happened has an ounce of truth behind them.  I'm leaving now to slap myself.

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2006, 10:22:48 PM »
Niether... I'm just stating that arguing about this is fuckin rediculus.  Actually I'm mad at myself for even entertaining the fact that anyone who actually believes this never happened has an ounce of truth behind them.  I'm leaving now to slap myself.

Okay.  Thanks for serving our country.  I hope you do open your eyes when you come home,and do something great with the combination of your military experience and the thigns that we at home know, which you aren't exposed to. peace.

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2006, 10:27:04 PM »
Okay.  Thanks for serving our country.  I hope you do open your eyes when you come home,and do something great with the combination of your military experience and the thigns that we at home know, which you aren't exposed to. peace.
Hmm...  I wish I could show you clowns at home the things I get to see that YOU aren't exposed to. 

You might change your tune.