my take on the subject since you keep bothering me in pms i took a look at this post and this is how it is:
like bobbie said,,,if you dont make it in the local county usa show naturaly,,then you got zero chance at even PLACING top 5 in the juniors or nationals,,
to become a pro you got got got got GOT to have the muscle shape even when you are a skinny 150lb,,you are born with your muscle shape,,thats that.
now,,the hormones will grow you and will take you up from the 180 to the 240 after some time,,,but!!! it will only be muscle size,,,NOT MUSCLE SHAPE!
many guys got good genetics to look like a bodybuilder and respond well to hormones,,,but their muscle dont volumize right from within aka they lack thickness from within the muscle,,it is hard to notice for the average joe,,but good eye can see and know what im refering too,,they can be thick as fuck but!! the thickness from within the muscle is lacking in proportion to their height and that will forever limit them from getting pro card. nolotil help but not to what im talking about,,,im talking about something your genetics got to have inorder to get pro card. i can give examples but i dont want to offend lifters and members of getbig.
nutrition is key ofcourse but you can eat as much calories as you want,,,and take as many hormones as you want,,,and you still wont get a pro card if your initial shape wasnt there,,,if it is there then nutrition and hormones will get you a pro card inaddition to making you "big",,,
you can be the smallest guy in the world,,,and have shape and symetry to your physiqe,,,and at the end get a pro card,,,see stan,,see labrada,,see zane and many others,,
and this brings me to what i look for first when i enter a gym when someone approaches me,,,i NEVER LOOK AT YOUR MASS,,i always look at what is this mass made of: symetry,,proportion among muscle groups,,lean muscle tissue,,water held,, i have guys come to me weighin 260lb thinking they will go on stage 220lb and i can tell on initial look that they wont be on stage anythiing over 190lb,,the physiqe should flow right,,,nothing should come out as weird or under developed,,,this is the first chance at doing damage and GETTING A PRO CARD FROM GOOD OLD JOE,,
when you get your pro card,,,,your physiqe can do whatever it wants,,,because you already have it,,,,you can fuck yourself up then and it only hurts your pocket,,but in the npc level ,,flow of physiqe,, in all aspects,, is EVERYTHING,,the bigger the better only! if it is qualitative <new word?
ok my stomack and quad hurting,,till we meet again homos