Black people 'should get over' slavery? Comment stuns lawmakers in Virginia

[JOHN MATRIX]

Shittin me right.....Industrial boom...Circa 1840. The us was already making making huge land deals with france before then....(see louisiana Purchase). you retarted f**k...The backbone of america was Free capital provided by slaves... The US was a superpower by 1803...now you tell me what Industrial Phenom happend prior to then...NONE. The us was an AGRI nation before the industrial Revolution.  sort of like california is now (californias major export is agri and california is the 5th largest economy in the world.)
Deflate that

1.the US was a 'superpower' by 1803? hahahahahaha ok
2.no shit we were an AGRI nation before an industrial nation (rocket science right there) but we were NOT a superpower prior to industrialising.
3. the only time in the history of the US when slaves were the 'backbone of the US economy' was at an extremely early point in our history when we were still weak and entirely dependent on agriculture.
at no point was the US both a Superpower and economically based on slave agriculture work.

[Eyeball Chambers]

In fact, the more I think about it I should be demanding an apology from England, for its vicious occupation of Ireland, as well as the US, for its discrimination against my Irish forefathers. What a crock of shit.

lol... Thats exactly what I was thinking.

[Option D]

1.the US was a 'superpower' by 1803? hahahahahaha ok
2.no shit we were an AGRI nation before an industrial nation (rocket science right there) but we were NOT a superpower prior to industrialising.
3. the only time in the history of the US when slaves were the 'backbone of the US economy' was at an extremely early point in our history when we were still weak and entirely dependent on agriculture.
at no point was the US both a Superpower and economically based on slave agriculture work.

Dude you said nothing there...hahaha ok...thats your response...fuckin rookie

Superpower is having the means to make major international transactions. the loiusiana purchase would qualify. 23+million in the late 17 early 1800s would qualify.

So if the industrial boom (really didnt hit the us until the late 1800's) was after agri. But we were a force in the world before the industrial boom what would that mean...let me help you...it would mean that agriculture (much much more than cotton ever heard of tobacco row) was the main source of rev for the states....Name something else. PLEASE name an export that is responsible for the rev generated before steel.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Dude you said nothing there...hahaha ok...thats your response...fuckin rookie

Superpower is having the means to make major international transactions. the loiusiana purchase would qualify. 23+million in the late 17 early 1800s would qualify.

So if the industrial boom (really didnt hit the us until the late 1800's) was after agri. But we were a force in the world before the industrial boom what would that mean...let me help you...it would mean that agriculture (much much more than cotton ever heard of tobacco row) was the main source of rev for the states....Name something else. PLEASE name an export that is responsible for the rev generated before steel.

i guess we have different opinions of what a superpower is. also what is the point of your last paragraph? i already stated that slave agriculture was what we were based on economically in the early years. all you did was repeat this. the US did not become a true superpower until we built up our industrial might, in fact id say we werent a superpower until the later part of the 19th century, arguably not until ww1, some would say not until ww2.

[Option D]

i guess we have different opinions of what a superpower is. also what is the point of your last paragraph? i already stated that slave agriculture was what we were based on economically in the early years. all you did was repeat this. the US did not become a true superpower until we built up our industrial might, in fact id say we werent a superpower until the later part of the 19th century, arguably not until ww1, some would say not until ww2.

Dude we were a superpower way before 1917 or 1940. You are a smart guy...you know this. Though the term super didnt emerge until maybe the 1930's-1940's (which is what i think you are confusing it with) the US had the Characteristics of a superpower long before then...We had a military that was capable of successful defense of foreign invaders, cultural influence based on our own ideals, and then we did have an extremely large land mass under our control. A land mass that produced resources to sustain us. We were all of those things during the early to mid 1800's

[Eyeball Chambers]

Didn't Africans actually trade each other to the white man? 

[JOHN MATRIX]

we had the resources in place to be a superpower in the future(like u said the land mass-the whole damn continent pretty much) but it took time to build up to that status. its hard to say we were a superpower as early as u say when in 1812 the brits came over on a whim marched straight to the capital and burned washington to the ground. we had the resources and tools necessary for a future superpower but werent there yet imo.

[Option D]

we had the resources in place to be a superpower in the future(like u said the land mass-the whole damn continent pretty much) but it took time to build up to that status. its hard to say we were a superpower as early as u say when in 1812 the brits came over on a whim marched straight to the capital and burned washington to the ground. we had the resources and tools necessary for a future superpower but werent there yet imo.

Very good point. 

[Tre]

yes the south obviously benefitted from free labor but their economy was based on cotton export and could only continue for so long. not a good foundation to build a superpower on.

Um, ever heard of tobacco? 

There would be no America - at least, not as we know it today - if not for the tobacco trade. 

Somehow, you've been tricked into believing that America's greatness is something that just 'happened' in the last 75 years, when in reality, the seeds for it were planted centuries ago.

[Parker]

Where should one start. Slavery was an economic institution, or a venture into free labor---probably the instance in Am hist where you could get "something for nothing". So good was it there was a Civil War, because states wanted to succeed just to keep this free labor system going. I could go on, but why .

Secondly, slavery was a lifestyle, a way of life. just like your used to turning on light and having electricity,expecting to be paid foe yoru work, etc. So it was a way of life for a couple hundred years? And do you think those stereotypes, superiority and inferiority complexes are going to go away due to time. Especially when people profit off of them ,and also those who portray them, either feel comfortable in not changing the negative aspects of said behavior, or find it too hard to "step to the next level".
 I've seen with my own eyes, body parts that were cut off a lynched black man's body in the 1940's. They were in Mason jars. And some of these dudes who did that mess are still alive and well. What does this say about Am? i have other personal stories, but this is not the forum .
What needs to be done is some honest, good old fashion sit down and talk. Seminars, let it out. What you think needs to be fixed, how it should be fixed. Just let it out. Becuase this can be used to divide Americans (while your paying attention to this, what are "they" doing , or bring them together.

Of course the ones who need to do this and respond this post, will not, it easier to criticize than to act.

[Cap]

Current blacks have not felt the direct effects of slavery.  Do you see Jews asking for reparations?  Do they cry about everything?  No.  they are the most persecuted people throughout history IMO and you hear little bitching from them compared to blacks.

[Camel Jockey]

Reparations will happen and your family as well as all other Americans will pay for it, as well as business that were complicit throughout the slave trade.

BTW, You care about the past, you are ranting about Israel and Palestine all of the time.

Palestine got screwed over in the past, I guess it is time to move on.

Indeed they did. Arabs have to accept Israel for what they are.

[Tre]

Current blacks have not felt the direct effects of slavery.

You're not familiar with trickle-down economics, I see.

Do you see Jews asking for reparations?  Do they cry about everything?  No.  they are the most persecuted people throughout history IMO and you hear little bitching from them compared to blacks.

Jews are fine, primarily because they know how to spend their money wisely. 

[Tre]

... you hear little bitching from them compared to blacks.

Next time you hear 'bitching from Blacks', be certain to take note of which media outlet you're reading, listening to, or watching.

I'm willing to bet money that it's owned by Whites. 

Hmmm...

[Cap]

Jews are fine, primarily because they know how to spend their money wisely. 

So true.  Pimped out cars and bling are poor investments.

Next time you hear 'bitch from Blacks', be certain to take note of which media outlet you're reading, listening to, or watching.

I'm willing to bet money that it's owned by Whites. 

Hmmm...

You mean the BS coming from Jesse Jackson, the biggest racist out there.

[Camel Jockey]

so...ummmm like no one has the intellectual capacity to refute my proposed to my explanations....240, maybe camel jockey....someone.

Dude, I'm thankful for the contributions of the civil rights movements and I know what slaves were subject to was quite brutal. However, how does giving current african americans money for the past accomplish anything at all? Wouldn't that money be better spent improving the school systems in urban areas? I know slavery had a big role in building up America, but the main reason America is where it's at is because of its free market system.

I understand your frustration and the frustration of other African Americans, so don't think we're ignorant on that issue. You can say what you will on slavery, the Jim Crow south, but still it doesn't mean I have to give you a dime for the past. I was not responsible for slavery, nor did I reap the benefits, so you have no right to hold me accountable, or any other American for that matter.

I find it funny that a_joker, a guy who claims he's a classical liberal, thinks black Americans should be payed for the past. I think the guy's a closet socialist at heart, and it's even funnier when he openly supports imperialism because in his delusional mind he think it brings equity to the poor.  

[Camel Jockey]

Next time you hear 'bitch from Blacks', be certain to take note of which media outlet you're reading, listening to, or watching.

Actually most of the bitching I've seen has come directly from the blacks I've come across, not media outlets.

[Tre]

You mean the BS coming from Jesse Jackson, the biggest racist out there.

No matter what is going on in the world, the Zionist media in this country will do whatever it can to get a microphone and camera in front of Jesse Jackson's face.  

It will take Black America centuries to undo the damage done by him in just a few decades.

[Camel Jockey]

No matter what is going on in the world, the Zionist media in this country will do whatever it can to get a microphone and camera in front of Jesse Jackson's face.  

It will take Black America centuries to undo the damage done by him in just a few decades.

Aren't you critic of 'blame the jews!'? Now you're admiting there's a Zionist media when your agenda has come up. 

[Cap]

Better yet.  Let's give CA back to Mexico.  Handouts don't solve anything and the black community has the hand out mentality so ingrained in their culture that it will take centuries to undo it.  If welfare got cut off tomorrow for able bodied workers, people wouldn't know what to do because they don't have work ethic in them.

[Tre]

I was not responsible for slavery, nor did I reap the benefits...

Black, White, Brown, whatever...we've all benefitted.  

The best repayment plan, however, would involve making sure that all our nation's public schools are providing an adequate education for all people.  

That does NOT mean that every school has to be 'equal', but some schools aren't even trying.

[Camel Jockey]

Better yet.  Let's give CA back to Mexico.  Handouts don't solve anything and the black community has the hand out mentality so ingrained in their culture that it will take centuries to undo it.  If welfare got cut off tomorrow for able bodied workers, people wouldn't know what to do because they don't have work ethic in them.

The funny shit is that illegals think they have the right to march into this country because cali and texas were once a part of mexico.

[Tre]

Aren't you critic of 'blame the jews!'? Now you're admiting there's a Zionist media when your agenda has come up. 

I just threw 'Zionist' in there to see how it would sound. lol

I love the Jews myself, but they also have a lot of control in media.  

[Camel Jockey]

Black, White, Brown, whatever...we've all benefitted.  

The best repayment plan, however, would involve making sure that all our nation's public schools are providing an adequate education for all people.  

That does NOT mean that every school has to be 'equal', but some schools aren't even trying.

I know man. As someone who went to NYC public school, let me tell you from personal experience that the system is an absolute mess. I'm all for increased spending in urban areas, but no free hand outs to people.

[Parker]

Current blacks have not felt the direct effects of slavery.  Do you see Jews asking for reparations?  Do they cry about everything?

They got some serious reparations. Billions of dollars of loot. And that is not including The many they were given by Swiss banks that the Nazis had hid. Or the paintings and jewelry that Nazi hid and stole in Austria and  Switz. There were recently more judicials rulings within the last 8 yrs. 

And lets not forget, pushing the Palestinians out of their land, creating Israel...when true Jews (jews of antueity) look more like the Palestinians (people of color) than Europeans. They have religious claims of the land, not genetic claim.

The relatives of japanese internment camp victims during WWII have received reparations as well.

Reconstruction was a quasi-way of creating  government sponsored Reparation. Crating black colleges, schools. 40 acres and mule was not a law, but was mulled over. Essentialy, everything was stopped...Don't want those blacks to have true equality....hell, they're still slaves, "obsolete farm equipment"

I think it is stupid to think that I will get reparations for the free labor my ancestors did, back pay, if you will...It makes sense, but worthless to fight over, when there are other things more important. Never gonna happen. And would have never happened back when former slaves were still alive.

I ask you this, becuae you say your Italian and Spanish. Imagine if your culture, identity did not exist or was stripped away. One is mixed with this, that (Nigerian, Mali,Wolof, etc.)  A Korean has his Korean heritage, a Chinese his, a Frenchman his. Af-Am's have none,even though we are an amalgam of Anglo and African. Nothing really to point to that says..."this came from such and such".

Then, to be taught, your hair texture is "bad" and believe that and come up with things to straigthen it. Anything is bad that is associated with you, and you teach that to your kids, hence the use of calling one's self nig**.  I guess you can see where i am going with this, so i won't go further.

Would you still say, "Don't cry over this"

Or would understand a mentality that has, yes fostered a "victim mentality", Or a metality that gets pissed off when you get criticized, like your always being watched over more than others, and if you f-up, that's it.