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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2008, 01:43:00 PM »
Absolutely not.  I believe govt is incompetent at every level at almost everything it does. 

However, that is not the same as saying the govt did this intentionally as many of the conspiracy theories you put out there try to claim.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2008, 01:52:57 PM »
Absolutely not.  I believe govt is incompetent at every level at almost everything it does. 

However, that is not the same as saying the govt did this intentionally as many of the conspiracy theories you put out there try to claim.

To me that's one of the most ridiculous unsubstantiated ideas ever. 

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2008, 02:01:22 PM »
To me that's one of the most ridiculous unsubstantiated ideas ever. 

Many of the conspiracy kooks try to make you believe these were controlled demolitions and that missles hit the pentagon.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2008, 02:22:45 PM »
You claim to know more about the collapse than Mechanical Engineers who have studied it.

How can this be?

You shit on me for doubting NIST's *continaully evolving* explanation of the collapse... yet you can shit on people with advanced degrees who simply say we should re-examine what happened.

You're a man of science - yet you are okay with this evidence not even being properly examined ONCE? (and don't claim it was - the 911 commission authors admit it was not)

There are also plenty of people who invested years in investigating it, full jobs for an entire engineering company...so...only the conspirators are right?

The basic mistake you are doing is that you look at it as some simple small building that had a structural failure at one point and collapsed , and that's not surprising since it's the most common scenario.

But this case it totally different, you have airplanes that can cruise at around 0.9mach, here they were diving into buildings with full throttle maybe even breaking mach 1, packed with fuel. Just the energy in the collision can vaporize a few floors/airplanes not to mention the combustibles.


Also if you ever seen National Geographic show about the demolition team they follow you would have seen how many holes need to be drilled and how there is no chance someone could have hidden so much work in buildings that are so overly populated.


Here are some numbers for you, I keep it as simple as possible:

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/units/energy/energy.tntton.en.html

According to them one ton of TNT - 4*10^9 Joule.

M=50 Tons , V=830km/h ---> E=(mV^2)*0.5=1.328*10^9 Joule.

These numbers are pretty conservative they are for a very lightly loaded 737 at his top speed (without diving), taking a higher take off weight and speed can easily match one ton of TNT exploding.

  - 160kg of TNT exploding for some reference.

Now add to that the jet fuel and the plenty of flammable substances in the building and you get an inferno, also remember that the explosion can create reactions that can't happen in regular fires since they need a very high initial energy to start them and maybe even cause a self sustained chain reaction.


So where are you facts? NORAD was turned off? NORAD doesn't deal with regular civilian air traffic, and considering that NYC have several airports in it and a very busy skies by the time they might have realized something is wrong (kidnap but guessing they will crash it into a building? a little far fetched for them at the time) it was too late, planes move fast and the distance was small.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2008, 02:30:57 PM »
Great point about the demo teams.

Its simply not possible for demo teams not to be noticed in the WTC to pull this off. 

These people are watching too many movies.

They want us to believe that no janitors, security guards on watch, maintence crew, engineers, etc saw anything going on????

Who really believes this garbage?

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2008, 02:53:26 PM »
Many of the conspiracy kooks try to make you believe these were controlled demolitions and that missles hit the pentagon.

Yeah, then they took all the people from the plane that "supposedly" hit the pentagon and executed them and disposed of the plane.

Meanwhile, the terminal crew, the ATC's, etc., were all in on it!

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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2008, 10:55:57 PM »
Yeah, then they took all the people from the plane that "supposedly" hit the pentagon and executed them and disposed of the plane.

Meanwhile, the terminal crew, the ATC's, etc., were all in on it!

Also, why would the government kill people on planes and in buildings yet it will make efforts to make the towers collapse somewhat cleanly  ::)

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2008, 06:50:59 AM »

This is why:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183





More crackpot theories.

Where is Barbare Olsen and is Ted Olsen covering this up to?

Until you and your kook friends can answer that question for me, STFU with your nonsense. 

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2008, 07:55:39 AM »
Also, why would the government kill people on planes and in buildings yet it will make efforts to make the towers collapse somewhat cleanly  ::)


Additionally they didn't need to hit the pentagon.  If the towers where the only thing attacked it would have been more than enough to create the wars.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2008, 07:58:04 AM »

More crackpot theories.

Where is Barbare Olsen and is Ted Olsen covering this up to?

Until you and your kook friends can answer that question for me, STFU with your nonsense. 

Agreed, what a bunch of crap.


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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2008, 09:57:47 PM »
Anyone notice how our mentally handicapped poster (240) disappeared after we inserted some logic into this thread...yet he keep spamming the board with BS threads.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2008, 02:24:15 AM »

You couldn't make a cell phone call from a jet in 2001.




Hi 240, you forgot to log out.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2008, 03:50:26 AM »
Hi 240, you forgot to log out.

Hi dick.  Not me.  But thanks for your concern :)

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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2008, 04:02:59 AM »
Hi dick.  Not me.  But thanks for your concern :)

Sure it isn't...it's not like getbig+ conspiracies are your entire life.

How's living in a trailer with a junkie wife providing the family works for you?

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2008, 04:05:19 AM »
Sure it isn't...it's not like getbig+ conspiracies are your entire life.

How's living in a trailer with a junkie wife providing the family works for you?

youre all sorts of pissed off, huh?

Smile once in a while. 

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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2008, 06:01:19 AM »
youre all sorts of pissed off, huh?

Smile once in a while. 

Actually I always have a smile on my face, but I admit that if I had your life I would surely be sad.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2008, 06:59:37 AM »
Actually I always have a smile on my face, but I admit that if I had your life I would surely be sad.

Brutal obsession.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2008, 07:13:57 AM »

You couldn't make a cell phone call from a jet in 2001.




Maybe she called from the plane????

Either way - where is she???????????????????????


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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2008, 08:26:33 AM »
Brutal obsession.

Nice try at complimenting yourself, oh btw where are you amazing facts to disprove what we stated here.... ::)

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2008, 08:28:16 AM »
Nice try at complimenting yourself, oh btw where are you amazing facts to disprove what we stated here.... ::)

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« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2008, 08:36:17 AM »
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Wow...now I believe the government was behind it  ::)

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2008, 08:47:05 AM »
Wow...now I believe the government was behind it  ::)


settle down.  youre sounding pathetic now.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2008, 09:08:22 AM »

settle down.  youre sounding pathetic now.

More pathetic than being a warrior + using a gimmick and after being faced with facts trying to avoid...nah..you're much more.

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Re: The 9/11 Conspiracy As Documented By The Mainstream Media
« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2008, 09:28:04 AM »
More pathetic than being a warrior + using a gimmick and after being faced with facts trying to avoid...nah..you're much more.

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