Author Topic: worst shafting in the IFBB? (Read 3059 times)

theworm · « **on:** February 11, 2007, 01:07:01 PM »

Other than the obvious screwing of Culter in 2001, who else was the worst to get shafted?

I would say Shawn Ray in the 1998 Mr. O

(second place, Markus at the Santa Susana, losing to Paco).

flex933 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:18:05 PM »

what about nasser in 97

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:19:44 PM »

Quote from: theworm on February 11, 2007, 01:07:01 PM

worst shafting in the IFBB?

Easy:

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:25:54 PM »

rusty

Knives · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:28:25 PM »

Flex not winning in 93

timfogarty · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:31:51 PM »

1980 Olympia

1979 Olympia

1970 Olympia

240 is Back · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:36:03 PM »

the night of the clowns.

RockinAR · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:13:53 PM »

Lee Priest.

1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999

Livewire · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:14:57 PM »

Ray Mcneil got a raw deal.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:01:03 PM »

Which was the one that Kal Szalak did the Crucifix pose and promptly retired? That was a pretty good screwing, no lube nor flowers in the morning!

Chick · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:03:54 PM »

Kal was great, but 5th was about right...can't place higher with half a body.

Pollux · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:43:10 PM »

Quote from: theworm on February 11, 2007, 01:07:01 PM

Other than the obvious screwing of Culter in 2001, who else was the worst to get shafted?

Flex Wheeler at the '93 and '99 Olympia.

Hulkster · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:49:55 PM »

Quote from: Pollux on February 11, 2007, 03:43:10 PM

Flex Wheeler at the '93 and '99 Olympia.

93 I can understand.

but 99 ??

he was soft and oil filled then.

Hulkster · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:51:05 PM »

Shawn Ray at the 94 Olympia.

judges picked a blob of injured bloated mass over pure quality because of size (and lat width) alone.

$:-\$

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:53:27 PM »

Quote from: Xerxes on February 11, 2007, 03:46:36 PM

Wolf behind Kamali?

That was more of a "routine screwing".

In every contest Kamali's ever been in the two or three guys who place immediately lower than him were royally screwed. And KK has the nerve to bitch about the judging.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:54:43 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 11, 2007, 03:51:05 PM

Shawn Ray at the 94 Olympia.

judges picked a blob of injured bloated mass over pure quality because of size (and lat width) alone.

$:-\$

Hulkster Shawn disagrees with you

quote Shawn Ray Flex Jan 1995 " Tonight I feel I got what I deserved " on the 1994 Mr Olympia

Quote Flex Dec 1995 Wink

" In 1994 , he ( Dorian ) was admittedly not at his best , but he was still the best bodybuilder onstage that day. No one not even runner-up Shawn Ray,disagreed with that stance on the night of Yates' threepeat. "

1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "

YoungBlood · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:57:39 PM »

ND-

you believe everything you read? You don't think FLEX could have put those words in Shawn's mouth?
There have been times when that has occurred!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:58:28 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on February 11, 2007, 03:57:39 PM

ND-

you believe everything you read? You don't think FLEX could have put those words in Shawn's mouth?
There have been times when that has occurred!

Come on thats reaching don't you think?

YoungBlood · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:06:24 PM »

No, you're a member at IronAge. Someone there has said that has happened to them numerous times while writing an article. Turned it in, and certain parts were changed for no particular reason, and not the same article the person turned in.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:09:54 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on February 11, 2007, 04:06:24 PM

No, you're a member at IronAge. Someone there has said that has happened to them numerous times while writing an article. Turned it in, and certain parts were changed for no particular reason, and not the same article the person turned in.

I think that statement is an excuse , Shawn was happy with second

Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray

Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.

Cap · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:11:29 PM »

Worst shafting in BBing would have to be the DA/Rodney St Cloud Jungle love butt raping.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:14:21 PM »

I'm trying to go to bat for Shawn. I'm just saying that it's not like the pages for a Flex article are chipped in stone like Moses' tablets. It's very easy to re-write something, or just change a word or two here and there.
It's a possibility, and maybe Shawn could (has?) come on here to clarify. Or, he may very well have said it and that was his feelings that night, and after reviewing photos changed his mind. Flex did this in 99, after losing to Coleman. Flex did the "shun" where he turned his back to the crowd because he really felt that he should have placed ahead of Ronnie that night. For the next issue or two of FLEX the magazine, Flex (the bber) said he was pissed. Then in the next issue, Flex (again, the BBer) said he reviewed the photos and felt that Ronnie did deserve the win.

Hulkster · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:14:40 PM »

first of all, who wouldn't be happy with second at the olympia? thats some serious cash. You may not agree with the result but 50 grand is 50 grand.

secondly, do you really think Shawn would have been stupid enough to trash Joe Weiders' champion and all the judges?

he had a career to think about you know.

You ask shawn what he really thinks now that he doesn't have to worry about fallout with Uncle Joe and I promise you the answer will be different.

If ND had a brain he could have figured this out...

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:16:30 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 11, 2007, 04:14:40 PM

first of all, who wouldn't be happy with second at the olympia? thats some serious cash. You may not agree with the result but 50 grand is 50 grand.

secondly, do you really think Shawn would have been stupid enough to trash Joe Weiders' champion and all the judges?

he had a career to think about you know.

You ask shawn what he really thinks now that he doesn't have to worry about fallout with Uncle Joe and I promise you the answer will be different.

If ND had a brain he could have figured this out...

Countdown to the excuses ended , thank you

and it shows how little you know because for years Shawn was VERY critical of the judges , much to learn you do

Hulkster · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:17:48 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 11, 2007, 04:16:30 PM

Countdown to the excuses ended , thank you and it shows how little you know because for years Dorian was VERY critical of the judges , much to learn you do

I suppose you expect us all to believe he trashed the judges during his reign too...