Author Topic: VAn Halen Tour put on Hold...oh, brother. (Read 4710 times)

Sergio Rules 77 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2007, 05:20:18 PM »

I was just looking at this picture and I swear to God, Alex looks like he did in 1980. He hasn't aged a day. Eddie on the other hand is starting to look like Golem and looks 180 or something.

SERGIO!!!!

natural al · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2007, 05:34:15 PM »

Quote from: Sergio Rules 77 on February 21, 2007, 05:20:18 PM

I was just looking at this picture and I swear to God, Alex looks like he did in 1980. He hasn't aged a day. Eddie on the other hand is starting to look like Golem and looks 180 or something.

SERGIO!!!!

y'know the one thing that pisses me off about that pic is the simple fact that Ed is holding that guitar. That guitar is a charvel replica of his 1984 red and white stripped guitar that Ed originally built for about 200 bucks...the replica's are 25,000 a piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now keep in mind that Ed bitches and bitches about sammy hagar and Mike Anthony selling tequilla and hot sauce. Ed also bitches about SH and MA doing VH songs on Sammy's last tour yet he has no problem with Dave who's been touring with a VH cover band for he last 10 years doing all VH songs for his whole set...sam and mike did like 6-8 songs in the middle of Sammy's set and the rest was Sammy with his band

ribonucleic · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:50:06 PM »

Quote from: natural al on February 21, 2007, 05:34:15 PM

y'know the one thing that pisses me off about that pic is the simple fact that Ed is holding that guitar. That guitar is a charvel replica of his 1984 red and white stripped guitar that Ed originally built for about 200 bucks...the replica's are 25,000 a piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now keep in mind that Ed bitches and bitches about sammy hagar and Mike Anthony selling tequilla and hot sauce. Ed also bitches about SH and MA doing VH songs on Sammy's last tour yet he has no problem with Dave who's been touring with a VH cover band for he last 10 years doing all VH songs for his whole set...sam and mike did like 6-8 songs in the middle of Sammy's set and the rest was Sammy with his band

By all accounts, Ed bitches a lot.

About everything. $:-\$

The man's place in guitar history is unassailable. But let's face it. He's a total dick.

AVBG · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »

Its good to see Wolfie in the band!

Sergio Rules 77 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:12:26 PM »

http://www.vhnd.com/articles/070221-01.shtml

This is a little more promising, I guess.

SERGIO!!!!

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2007, 03:51:04 AM »

Quote from: Debussey on February 21, 2007, 05:07:41 PM

Paul Gilbert = great player. You are learning.

I know all. SILENCE MORTAL!

natural al · « **Reply #31 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:36:08 AM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on February 21, 2007, 06:50:06 PM

By all accounts, Ed bitches a lot.

About everything. $:-\$

The man's place in guitar history is unassailable. But let's face it. He's a total dick.

he's been that way for about 12 years now, he doesn't even realize that there's a problem. He's a drunk, old, mean guy now...the booze caught up with him.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #32 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:30:51 AM »

Quote from: natural al on February 22, 2007, 06:36:08 AM

he's been that way for about 12 years now, he doesn't even realize that there's a problem. He's a drunk, old, mean guy now...the booze caught up with him.

He's in a House of Pain, all right.

[Sorry, couldn't resist.]

YoungBlood · « **Reply #33 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:51:23 AM »

Quote from: natural al on February 21, 2007, 05:12:44 PM

Man if I could post some of my old boots,

Make a torrent of them and post it to a site like www.dimeadozen.com (not sure of that site) or www.demonoid.com

natural al · « **Reply #34 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:13:45 AM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on February 22, 2007, 09:51:23 AM

Make a torrent of them and post it to a site like www.dimeadozen.com (not sure of that site) or www.demonoid.com

most are on cassette and I don't even know how to get them onto disk

sorry. Oldest one I have is them in 74, most are from 76 for the old stuff.

do a search on youtube, some people put some of the 25 song warner bros demo on there to some old picture footage. Look for he following songs:

eyes of night
get the show on the road
Ain't No stoppin-might be called "lets get rockin"
last night

there's also a song called "I want some action" that is a leftover from 5150-no guitar solo but it sounds like it would have been a cool song-kinda like Good Enough if your familiar with that song.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #35 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:57:19 AM »

You know it's been almost 22 years since Van Halen and David Lee Roth split apart. You have to really ask yourself if these guys can still operate as the cohesive unit they once were. I personally feel that they have been apart so long that their perfomances on tour won't be very good or no where near as good as they once were dating back to the early 80's.

Now, it looks like they won't get to reunite and tour after all due to ego and obvious legal reasons. It's a shame, it really is. These guys could have made history and tons more cash over the last 22 years if they could've just found a way to just shut the fuck up and get along for the sake of doing what they do best..........perform and create great music. Now, the founding members are all in their early to mid 50's and sadly, the magic is probably long gone.

What a waste.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #36 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:16:14 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 22, 2007, 10:57:19 AM

sadly, the magic is probably long gone.

Even if they'd been playing together continuously all this time, you have to wonder how much juice they'd have left. When you play "Eruption" for the 2,217th time, you might as well be filling out a deposit slip at the bank.

Grace Slick, who could speak from first-hand experience, said that it's embarrassing to see old people playing rock and roll. That would have to go triple for heavy metal.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #37 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:42:22 AM »

I mean, don't get me wrong. I liked a couple of Hagar albums. 5150 is probably one of the best pure rock and roll albums of all time. The Cerone era almost destroyed their legacy, in my opinion. That guy sucked donkey dick!

But think about what kind of creative ideas a Roth-led Van Halen could have produced over the last two decades. Makes you wonder how their place in rock and roll history could have been that much better than it already is.

Nonetheless, their 2007 Rock and Roll hall of fame induction is long overdue and well deserved.

natural al · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:08:39 PM »

if they would have stayed together it would have been interesting but realistically Dave and Ed were moving in 2 totally different directions as far as songwriting and band image were concerned. It would have failed sooner or later. The thing with Sammy was he came in and did exactly what Eddie wanted him to do at the time, Ed put down music to something like Why Can't This Be Love and Sammy could sing it and write to it, no hassle no problem. Dave fought tooth and nail againts keyboard tunes, Sam just rolled with it. For better or worse Sammy and Eddie could do whatever they wanted..unitl that rat bastard Ray Daniels came in and destroyed it. The Hagar era gets painted as just keyboards but in reality they only did like 8 keyboard songs-the record company just chose to release those to radio instead of stuff like "5150", AFU or The Seventh Seal which are all great rock songs.

listen to diver down-which is considered "dave's album" and then listen to Eat em and Smile. Then listen to 5150 and see how much different Ed's direction was than Dave's.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:28:25 PM »

What's your favorite VH album, natural al?

Mine is:

Van Halen's self titled debut in 1978

5150 from the Hager era.

natural al · « **Reply #40 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:35:20 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 22, 2007, 12:28:25 PM

What's your favorite VH album, natural al?

Mine is:

Van Halen's self titled debut in 1978

5150 from the Hager era.

CArnal Knowledge....everyone in the band was firing on all cylinders for that and they finally got thier production down. If you can listen to Judgement Day. The Dream is Over, Pleasure Dome....hell, everything on that disk is incredible.

From the Dave era...prolly the first one or 1984, I love Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain from that disk.

I love the Sammy era stuff, 5150, Ou812 and Balance are all great...to me. I grew up during that time so those albums are the shit as far as I'm concerned. The production kinda sucks on 5150 and OU812 but I've heard a couple of remastered tracks that some fans have done and if they ever officially remaster those they're gonna be awsome.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #41 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:35:57 PM »

Quote from: natural al on February 22, 2007, 10:13:45 AM

most are on cassette and I don't even know how to get them onto disk

sorry. Oldest one I have is them in 74, most are from 76 for the old stuff.

do a search on youtube, some people put some of the 25 song warner bros demo on there to some old picture footage. Look for he following songs:

eyes of night
get the show on the road
Ain't No stoppin-might be called "lets get rockin"
last night

there's also a song called "I want some action" that is a leftover from 5150-no guitar solo but it sounds like it would have been a cool song-kinda like Good Enough if your familiar with that song.

It's easy to put them on disk, these days. You have a computer burning program, most likely you can put them on your hard drive via a cable from your tape deck to your computer. From there, it's easy to upload them to a site like the aforementioned sites. It's more of a matter of time. Since you can't speed tape up without making the copy sound like the Chipmunks (maybe that's a direction EVH might want to go in?), you'll have to sit down and listen to memories as the tape plays/records in real time. With CD to CD, you can actually make a 80 minute CD in 5minutes- though the sound quality could suffer in different ways.

Sergio Rules 77 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2007, 09:11:16 PM »

Just found this and thought I'd share it

SERGIO!!!!

AVBG · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2007, 09:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Sergio Rules 77 on March 05, 2007, 09:11:16 PM

Just found this and thought I'd share it

SERGIO!!!!

thats awesome.. hahhahahaha..

Beefjake · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2007, 11:39:18 PM »

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Ed also bitches about SH and MA doing VH songs on Sammy's last tour yet he has no problem with Dave who's been touring with a VH cover band for he last 10 years doing all VH songs for his whole set...sam and mike did like 6-8 songs in the middle of Sammy's set and the rest was Sammy with his band

Difference here is that Dave has his name on all of those songs he plays with his band. You know Roth/VanHalen. Lyrics/Composer/Arrangement.

If Sammy (or Mike Anthony) isn't mentioned as one of those he (EVH)has a right to be pissed. Altough theres noting he can do about it,he gets his royalties from it. ( I know its not royalties that you get when your song gets played but I don't know what it is called in States)

If they ever start that 40 gig tour. My prediction is around 15 maybe 18...

tu_holmes · « **Reply #45 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:03:27 AM »

Quote from: Beefjake on March 05, 2007, 11:39:18 PM

Difference here is that Dave has his name on all of those songs he plays with his band. You know Roth/VanHalen. Lyrics/Composer/Arrangement.

If Sammy (or Mike Anthony) isn't mentioned as one of those he (EVH)has a right to be pissed. Altough theres noting he can do about it,he gets his royalties from it. ( I know its not royalties that you get when your song gets played but I don't know what it is called in States)

If they ever start that 40 gig tour. My prediction is around 15 maybe 18...

Actually, I think it is called "royalties".

Beefjake · « **Reply #46 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:58:56 AM »

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Actually, I think it is called "royalties".

Is it? Ok. I know that you(they) get royalties from record sales but tought that there was another term for that other stuff.

bmacsys · « **Reply #47 on:** March 11, 2007, 02:35:37 PM »

Now we know why. Eddie is drunk again.

njflex · « **Reply #48 on:** March 13, 2007, 07:41:53 PM »

i loved women and children first,first 4 track's eddie's blaring,guitar solo's to start song's.alex was a very underrated drummer,had that pounding snare drum,was like wrapped so tight.loved the four bass drum's kit's he had later on.roth on record was very convincing a lounge singer with some soul,lost it completley live.i remember every year as a kid getting those 5 album's back to back.now group's take 4 year's to record.i am saddened by the new's,i think i would have actually passed,i saw the sammy 04 reunion tour,it was spotty.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #49 on:** March 17, 2007, 06:19:49 PM »

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The good 'ole days. Young and ready to take over rock'n roll.

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