Fat peoples lack of willpower is sickening

[G o a t b o y]

you are clearly a ####

Welcome to the thread, Jimmy!  Please contribute with a story or two that exemplify fat people and their sickening lack of willpower.

[knny187]

Jimmy....will you screw a fat chick?

[G o a t b o y]

Jimmy....will you screw a fat chick?

You know Jimmy finds all his dates on the internet...  Vince Basile turned him on to that fantasyfeeders.com site, and word is he's trying to set something up for this weekend. 

[Debussey]

As for people being disgusted by me...why am I getting deals to pose for MD, Flex and a couple of others? If these mags are not making money off these photo shoots, what would they do them?

Your reasoning = flawed.

You use magazine offers from within the same subculture that embrace your transgenderness to prove a point that extends BEYOND the subculture, where the sources of teh disgust can be found.

If a fat person used your reasoning, he/she could say: How can you say that people = disgusted by me (I only weigh 400 pounds), when www.fatassholes.com, www.nudefatbitches.com and www.VinceBasilesFatHarem .com gives me deals for posing?

 

(And do not claim that these magazines only want "hot" women, they still embrace the transgender infested culture of female bbing)

The roids fried yer brain as well.

[DK II]

Very very good post by debussey!!

Right on the spot.

[Dballn247]

Look in the September edition of Muscular Development...I will also be on the BuffBunnies website...I'm definitely not a troll... although it makes me laugh that these guys think I am...HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

This dude still posts here? 

[slaveboy1980]

FATNESS IS A SIN. THE BIBLE SAYS SO!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN *BURP*

[Vince B]

What amuses me about bodybuilders is that they believe they alone know how to diet and lose fat. Fat people know more about dieting than any other group. If you read the studies done on fat populations you will discover that fat people lose weight but put it on again. Bodybuilders naturally assume they regain lost pounds because fat people are lazy and have weak wills. That may explain obesity in some but not all fat people. Studies have shown that diets do not work to keep weight off permanently. Why this is so is complex. If losing weight permanently were easy then fat people wouldn't be fat. Something happens in bodies that are starved often and persistently. Those bodies can change the way they use energy and store fat. There are millions of people out there who have suffered because of the starvation response to severe and persistent dieting.

I believe that there is a lot of misinformation out there re nutrition. We see this when people talk about junk food. How can a food be junk or junk be food? It has to be one or the other. What can happen is that people can have junk diets. Namely those that are not balanced. Hamburgers are not junk food. A junk diet example would be one where a person ate only French fries and nothing else.  A person could eat only McDonald's food and be quite healthy and even grow muscle. That movie Supersize me or whatever it was called was dishonest. The guy stopped exercising and didn't try to eat a balanced diet. What did he expect? If he had continued to train or even better, do gym work, he would have been fit and gained muscle size.

I so dislike the simplistic solutions blokes like Assboy and Boatboy come up with. These guys have no solutions for anything. It is wise of them to hide behind a amusing name on line because they have no original ideas at all and do not stand out as being educated and certainly not civil. So they associate with similar uncouth virtual characters and think it is all quite funny. Yeah, I would love to see one of these jokes go to a big gym and tell people, "Hey, I'm Goatboy from Getbig!"

[Vince B]

Here is one study on dieting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6540493.stm

[octobermajik]

What amuses me about bodybuilders is that they believe they alone know how to diet and lose fat. Fat people know more about dieting than any other group. If you read the studies done on fat populations you will discover that fat people lose weight but put it on again. Bodybuilders naturally assume they regain lost pounds because fat people are lazy and have weak wills. That may explain obesity in some but not all fat people. Studies have shown that diets do not work to keep weight off permanently. Why this is so is complex. If losing weight permanently were easy then fat people wouldn't be fat. Something happens in bodies that are starved often and persistently. Those bodies can change the way they use energy and store fat. There are millions of people out there who have suffered because of the starvation response to severe and persistent dieting.

I believe that there is a lot of misinformation out there re nutrition. We see this when people talk about junk food. How can a food be junk or junk be food? It has to be one or the other. What can happen is that people can have junk diets. Namely those that are not balanced. Hamburgers are not junk food. A junk diet example would be one where a person ate only French fries and nothing else.  A person could eat only McDonald's food and be quite healthy and even grow muscle. That movie Supersize me or whatever it was called was dishonest. The guy stopped exercising and didn't try to eat a balanced diet. What did he expect? If he had continued to train or even better, do gym work, he would have been fit and gained muscle size.

I so dislike the simplistic solutions blokes like Assboy and Boatboy come up with. These guys have no solutions for anything. It is wise of them to hide behind a amusing name on line because they have no original ideas at all and do not stand out as being educated and certainly not civil. So they associate with similar uncouth virtual characters and think it is all quite funny. Yeah, I would love to see one of these jokes go to a big gym and tell people, "Hey, I'm Goatboy from Getbig!"

Vince, this is probably the best post on this subject you've made in this thread. Thank you.

Now a question.

Sure, many fat people have tried every diet known to man, only to gain the weight back. Why can they not understand (at least, many of them), that it takes a dedication to change your eating patterns PERMANENTLY to achieve what they want to achieve, and not a fad diet. Many here, including myself, say it's due to a lack of dicipline. It's one thing to diet for twelve weeks or whatever, but to make that permanent change and stick with it, takes dicipline and dedication; things people here argue the masses of obese don't exhibit.

I know you put down bodybuilders, but at least they have control over what they eat, and for the most part, tend not to become bese human beings when all is said or done, natural or otherwise.

[marcus]

What amuses me about bodybuilders is that they believe they alone know how to diet and lose fat. Fat people know more about dieting than any other group. If you read the studies done on fat populations you will discover that fat people lose weight but put it on again. Bodybuilders naturally assume they regain lost pounds because fat people are lazy and have weak wills. That may explain obesity in some but not all fat people. Studies have shown that diets do not work to keep weight off permanently. Why this is so is complex. If losing weight permanently were easy then fat people wouldn't be fat. Something happens in bodies that are starved often and persistently. Those bodies can change the way they use energy and store fat. There are millions of people out there who have suffered because of the starvation response to severe and persistent dieting.

I believe that there is a lot of misinformation out there re nutrition. We see this when people talk about junk food. How can a food be junk or junk be food? It has to be one or the other. What can happen is that people can have junk diets. Namely those that are not balanced. Hamburgers are not junk food. A junk diet example would be one where a person ate only French fries and nothing else.  A person could eat only McDonald's food and be quite healthy and even grow muscle. That movie Supersize me or whatever it was called was dishonest. The guy stopped exercising and didn't try to eat a balanced diet. What did he expect? If he had continued to train or even better, do gym work, he would have been fit and gained muscle size.

I so dislike the simplistic solutions blokes like Assboy and Boatboy come up with. These guys have no solutions for anything. It is wise of them to hide behind a amusing name on line because they have no original ideas at all and do not stand out as being educated and certainly not civil. So they associate with similar uncouth virtual characters and think it is all quite funny. Yeah, I would love to see one of these jokes go to a big gym and tell people, "Hey, I'm Goatboy from Getbig!"

L M A O 

[Vince B]

Bodybuilders are usually successful at controlling bodyshape for short periods of time. It remains to be seen what happens when they don't compete any more.

It has been shown that high motivation is responsible for people losing weight on any diet program. Fat people have lost tons of weight. Diets work short term. Then slowly the weight comes back on. Now, do you think that women don't care about what they look like? Appearance is extremely important to women. They read about diets, people tell them about diets, they try diets. They lose then regain more weight. Over decades the weight can accumulate. I suspect that dieting might affect the hunger in fat people. Hungry people tend to eat more.

There are lots of thing contributing to obesity. We know most of these things. However, what is clear is that human systems can defeat attempts to control obesity. I think man evolved as a hunter and gatherer. Once humans started living in cities food became more plentiful. Obesity probably doesn't exist in primitive societies. There is just too much work to do to stay alive. In modern societies such as USA we have cars, escalators, supermarkets, etc., etc. Sure there are strategies that can be used to counter the tendency to put on fat. The USA have more gyms than anyone else and good equipment. Why then are so many Americans fat and the percentage increasing each decade? How can 1/3 of Americans be obese and another third overweight? Fat people are in the majority.

If we accept that all sorts of counter-obesity procedures occur in America it means the percentage of fat people is even higher. Those with the means might elect various medical procedures to get rid of fat. The problem of obesity is greater than many imagine. If women are continually encouraged to look 'better' then why aren't more successful? It cannot be a lack of motivation. I doubt many women want to go through life as a supersized fat woman. Fat women get lectured all the time about obesity and dieting. How come it just isn't easy to reverse obesity?

Bodybuilders think they could solve all the problems fat people have. While the physics of fat reduction might be simple the problem is not at all easy to implement or solve. If bodybuilders listen to intelligent fat people they will discover things are not as easy as they think.

[G o a t b o y]

Bodybuilders are usually successful at controlling bodyshape for short periods of time. It remains to be seen what happens when they don't compete any more.

Well, if they lack willpower (which is sickening), they get "bulky":

[G o a t b o y]

Bodybuilders are usually successful at controlling bodyshape for short periods of time. It remains to be seen what happens when they don't compete any more.

It has been shown that high motivation is responsible for people losing weight on any diet program. Fat people have lost tons of weight. Diets work short term. Then slowly the weight comes back on. Now, do you think that women don't care about what they look like? Appearance is extremely important to women. They read about diets, people tell them about diets, they try diets. They lose then regain more weight. Over decades the weight can accumulate. I suspect that dieting might affect the hunger in fat people. Hungry people tend to eat more.

There are lots of thing contributing to obesity. We know most of these things. However, what is clear is that human systems can defeat attempts to control obesity. I think man evolved as a hunter and gatherer. Once humans started living in cities food became more plentiful. Obesity probably doesn't exist in primitive societies. There is just too much work to do to stay alive. In modern societies such as USA we have cars, escalators, supermarkets, etc., etc. Sure there are strategies that can be used to counter the tendency to put on fat. The USA have more gyms than anyone else and good equipment. Why then are so many Americans fat and the percentage increasing each decade? How can 1/3 of Americans be obese and another third overweight? Fat people are in the majority.

If we accept that all sorts of counter-obesity procedures occur in America it means the percentage of fat people is even higher. Those with the means might elect various medical procedures to get rid of fat. The problem of obesity is greater than many imagine. If women are continually encouraged to look 'better' then why aren't more successful? It cannot be a lack of motivation. I doubt many women want to go through life as a supersized fat woman. Fat women get lectured all the time about obesity and dieting. How come it just isn't easy to reverse obesity?

Bodybuilders think they could solve all the problems fat people have. While the physics of fat reduction might be simple the problem is not at all easy to implement or solve. If bodybuilders listen to intelligent fat people they will discover things are not as easy as they think.

Vince - losing fat is simple:  stop eating shit food (i.e. 80% of what americans currently eat), eat a balanced slightly hypocaloric diet, and exercise vigorously daily.  If you're st00pid enough to think you can starve yourself for 12 weeks or whatever, not exercise, and return to eating crap at the "end" of your "diet", you deserve to be fat! 

[marcus]

Oh for fuck's sake here we go again.

Bodybuilders are usually successful at controlling bodyshape for short periods of time. It remains to be seen what happens when they don't compete any more.

Just because they retire doesn't mean they stop working out. Look at Milos or Shawn Ray. I believe Rich Gaspari is still in shape too and I'm sure there are others.

It has been shown that high motivation is responsible for people losing weight on any diet program. Fat people have lost tons of weight. Diets work short term. Then slowly the weight comes back on.

Because as soon as they reach their target weights they stop using the diet/exercising habits which helped them lose the weight in the first place. The weight comes back and they blame the diet for not working.

Now, do you think that women don't care about what they look like? Appearance is extremely important to women. They read about diets, people tell them about diets, they try diets. They lose then regain more weight. Over decades the weight can accumulate.

See above.

I suspect that dieting might affect the hunger in fat people. Hungry people tend to eat more.

DUE TO LACK OF WILLPOWER AND DISCPLINE, THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE THREAD.

Obesity probably doesn't exist in primitive societies. There is just too much work to do to stay alive. In modern societies such as USA we have cars, escalators, supermarkets, etc., etc. Sure there are strategies that can be used to counter the tendency to put on fat. The USA have more gyms than anyone else and good equipment. Why then are so many Americans fat and the percentage increasing each decade? How can 1/3 of Americans be obese and another third overweight? Fat people are in the majority.

You just answered your own question but incase you didn't see it let me point it out to you. Cars, escalators, abundance of food, television etc caused people to be lazier and move less. The huge portions of food adds weight and because people have to move less, the weight accumulates instead of coming off. Why are there so many fat Americans if we have so many gyms? WE HAVE SO MANY GYMS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE FAT. Ever hear of Planet Fitness???

If women are continually encouraged to look 'better' then why aren't more successful? It cannot be a lack of motivation. I doubt many women want to go through life as a supersized fat woman. Fat women get lectured all the time about obesity and dieting. How come it just isn't easy to reverse obesity?

Good looks and sex sells and the smart/motivated/lucky ones use this to their advantage. Everyone knows this. No most don't want to go through life as a fatass but it's easier to cry while eating a bucket of ice cream than it is to change their eating habits etc.

[Debussey]

Debusseys alter egos:

DongUzi
DickPussey
DikPussey
The Pussey
Pumpeth DePussey
HellJuicy
SmackThePussey
DePunkey
DePukey
DICK PUSSY
EAT PUSSY
EAT VAG
PopRectumLucy
VinceBasilesMurderUzi
VAGINA LICKER
VAGINA TASTE TESTER
PUSSY EATER

[Vince B]

Debussey, you would worry inmates in an asylum!

[Vince B]

Goatboy, stick to bagging people, you are much better at that. Leave the science and discourse to those capable of it.

Have you never heard of safety fat? It is wise to keep a few extra pounds on your body in case you get sick. I am hardly fat. A tad bulky would be an accurate description for my prizewinning physique. I look at old farts my age and feel sorry for them. I can still keep up with the lads when shifting heavy apparatus around in the gym. Two days ago we had to move several heavy machines. The heaviest weighed over 1300 pounds. Easy stuff if you know what you are doing.

Markus and others think they know it all and can save fat people. I suppose your brilliant solution would be to put locks on the refrigerator and monitor them at all times. That would be a temporary thing.

Suppose you heroes were given the job of getting 10 superfat people to lose weight. Do you think you could guarantee results? I wouldn't be that foolish. Oh, the physics are easy to comprehend but the application is challenging.

Likewise, the physics of increasing muscle size is quite simple. How come it is so hard to get really big without drugs? Do bodybuilders lack willpower? Are they lazy? Or perhaps they are as dumb as the free weights they love to use? Maybe all of these things. I just find it rather ironic that wannabe bodybuilders with hardly any muscle size can lecture anyone on body shape and size. Even when told how to do something most knucklehead bodybuilders say, "Do you think?" No bodybuilder should laugh at fat people or anyone else. If you are a champion that would be beneath you to do. Only the flotsam of Getbig mouth off about fat people when in fact they have nothing outstanding about themselves at all. They hide behind childish handles and think they are witty and funny. The joke is they are funny because of how afraid they are to actually be themselves. We will never see a photo of Goatboy. Imagine that poor bloke hiding away and posting his rubbish for the dumbbells on Getbig. What a life he must have. I bet his wife doesn't know he is Goatboy! What a hero.

[G o a t b o y]

Have you never heard of safety fat? It is wise to keep a few extra pounds on your body in case you get sick. I am hardly fat. A tad bulky would be an accurate description for my prizewinning physique. I look at old farts my age and feel sorry for them.

Vince, you're fat, period.  The fact that many your age are fatter doesn't change the fact.  "Safety fat"?    It's truly sickening the rationalizations people will come up with to justify themselves. No one is saying you should be in the single-digits bodyfat %, but below 15-16 would be nice.  You're well north of 20%, lardass.

Suppose you heroes were given the job of getting 10 superfat people to lose weight. Do you think you could guarantee results? I wouldn't be that foolish. Oh, the physics are easy to comprehend but the application is challenging.

Assuming I could be guaranteed 100% compliance with my program, of course I could guarantee results.  But, as you correctly stated, that's the rub... the "how" is straightforward, it's getting people to do it that's the challenge. THAT'S WHERE WILLPOWER COMES IN... YOU EITHER WANT IT OR YOU DON'T.  THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR 64 PAGES NOW! It's not impossible to lose fat unless you're a weak-willed pussy, Vince.
 

[marcus]

Goatboy, stick to bagging people, you are much better at that. Leave the science and discourse to those capable of it.

Have you never heard of safety fat? It is wise to keep a few extra pounds on your body in case you get sick. I am hardly fat. A tad bulky would be an accurate description for my prizewinning physique. I look at old farts my age and feel sorry for them. I can still keep up with the lads when shifting heavy apparatus around in the gym. Two days ago we had to move several heavy machines. The heaviest weighed over 1300 pounds. Easy stuff if you know what you are doing.

While it may be good to have some fat I wouldn't call your spare tire safety fat. What's your BMI?

Markus and others think they know it all and can save fat people. I suppose your brilliant solution would be to put locks on the refrigerator and monitor them at all times. That would be a temporary thing.

Suppose you heroes were given the job of getting 10 superfat people to lose weight. Do you think you could guarantee results? I wouldn't be that foolish. Oh, the physics are easy to comprehend but the application is challenging.

You bitch about people not giving their real names and you take mine and can't even spell it right. Douche. Anyway hell yes I could guarantee results. Lock them in a cage and feed them bread and water until they aren't obese. Once they get out, if they get fat again their first born gets beaten until they lose the weight. Extreme? Hell yes. Point is I guarantee they'll find the willpower to not put the weight back on.

[G o a t b o y]

While it may be good to have some fat I wouldn't call your spare tire safety fat. What's your BMI?

Forget his BMI...  what's his bra size??

[marcus]

Forget his BMI...  what's his bra size??

Not sure. Someone should make a pic of him w/a bra like they did for Sarcasm. 

[Vince B]

Dopeboy descends into insults because he thinks he is winning the debate. What a loser and how limited this bloke is. I am merely describing him and not insulting him. There is a subtle difference.

Marcus is another know-it-all who has a lot to learn. I don't know who you are or if you have paid your dues. Most of the guys here can't be champions because they don't have the vocabulary.

I know that face to face Dopeboy would tremble and probably shit his pants when confronting me. He is smart to remain anonymous. In fact, it is mandatory for his own safety! He has painted himself into a dunce's corner and can't get out.

What is this obsession with bodyfat? Who gives a damn about having visible abs and all that crap? Oh, the young goats and bulls think it is cool and sexy or something but it hardly matters to most people. Some of you asses should attend to your personalities before it is too late. I wonder if such primitive guys can improve? Naw, they are self-done for sure.

[Vince B]

Garraeth, there is safety fat. That fat is used when illness invades the body. The idea is to have some extra fat for such occasions.

You are right that I am playing with these blokes. They don't seem to mind. Or maybe they don't get it.

I have always considered that using personal attacks is a weapon that very ordinary minds employ to 'win' an argument. All these flotsam achieve is to paint themselves as very limited individuals with hardly a thread of intellect inside those thick heads.

I have more work to do at my gym. Bye for now.

[G o a t b o y]

Vince completely lost this debate about 55 pages ago.  He ignores and refuses to address any good arguments anyone posts, and only makes two varieties of posts himself: he either hurls insults at us and classifies us as "meatheads" when he's probably more of a stereotypical "gym rat" than any of us, or he rehashes the same tired arguments he's been making since the beginning usually using (or should I say misusing) obscure words that he doesn't understand in a futile effort to cover his rather limited intelligence level.