wtf is adonis principles???

[affy]

the gimmicks on this site are getting out of hand

seriously

adonis, post your formula or stfu

its that easy.  you claim you do research for various companies, yet you can't get any of your bullshit published?  why is that, because its pure horse shit and no one would ruin their reputation publishing your garbage

[The Squadfather]

Have you ever worked out with the power of an oreo cookie vs chicken breast and a potatoe..... it is quite amazing. I have more intensity in the gym, better pumps, etc when i load up on junk before a work out as opposed to eating a potatoe.

chocolate cake is even better before a workout, i'm being totally serious, you won't believe it.

[svtmuscle]

Maybe that'll explain why he looks like a 16 year old who hasnt eaten in 3 weeks. You guys need to stop giving him so much attention and let him go back to his trailer.

[Buttsuck]

Your freaking high, simple sugars are a fast burining energy with a crash, you don't where the study is because there is no study, there is no nutritional value in an oreo, knucklehead!

hahahah i did have oatmeal but just because you said that im eating a candy bar right now before going to the gym.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Diet, exercise take off equal pounds, study finds
Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:27am ET
 
Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April.

They tested 24 people, 12 who ate a calorie-restricted diet, and 12 who dieted and also exercised five times a week for six months.

The dieters ate 25 percent less than normal, while the exercisers reduced their calorie intake by 12.5 percent and increased their physical activity to lose an extra 12.5 percent in calories.

Another 10 volunteers acted as controls. All food was provided by the university in carefully measured portions for most of the study.

The volunteers in both groups lost about 10 percent of their body weight, 24 percent of their fat mass, and 27 percent of their abdominal visceral fat. Visceral fat is packed in between the internal organs and is considered the most dangerous type of fat, linked with heart disease and diabetes.


The distribution of the fat on the body was not altered by either approach -- helping prove that there is no such thing as "spot reducing", Ravussin said in a telephone interview.

This suggests that "individuals are genetically programmed for fat storage in a particular pattern and that this programming cannot easily be overcome," he added.

Ravussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight.

"If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said.

Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April

This is your proof, studies like this have been around for years, nothing new, it makes sense............BTW, it says NOTHING about cream pies and Oreos being apart of that diet, dammit Adonis, your complete ignorance is getting really fucking annoying!

[The True Adonis]

the gimmicks on this site are getting out of hand

seriously

adonis, post your formula or stfu

its that easy.  you claim you do research for various companies, yet you can't get any of your bullshit published?  why is that, because its pure horse shit and no one would ruin their reputation publishing your garbage

Do my method and you will get it.
If not, quit hounding me.

[Buttsuck]

chocolate cake is even better before a workout, i'm being totally serious, you won't believe it.

Im usually a 3 muskateers guy with a cup of coffee but half a coconut cream pie works VERY well and i highly recommend it.

[The Squadfather]

hahahahaha, listen to all the pent up frustration from some of you clowns, some of you are so brainwashed into believeing the "clean foods" bullshit that you can't even fathom eating something that tastes good.

[onlyme]

i havent been on here for a while, but this shit talker was pwnd last time i was here for having spider monkey arms, being a tranny , and being fucked in the head. He was a complete joke, now he has come out with some principles??? Now i heard of the book of"Klaus, the great one", but i did read into this before being confused. Wat the fuck r they in bullet points?

Be sure to wipe your mouth after giving blowing your girlfriends dad

[affy]

Do my method and you will get it.
If not, quit hounding me.

i've pm'd you two times since you first came up with your methods

you've never replied...im open to try it for a few weeks

just give me the basics and i'll follow it and be the real judge

[Buttsuck]

hahahahaha, listen to all the pent up frustration from some of you clowns, some of you are so brainwashed into believeing the "clean foods" bullshit that you can't even fathom eating something that tastes good.

Indeed... i actually find eating junk motivational before a workout because i have a fear of it sticking on me so my work outs become very fast paced and intense. Besides if you have any extra calories you can always burn them off doing something.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Have you ever worked out with the power of an oreo cookie vs chicken breast and a potatoe..... it is quite amazing. I have more intensity in the gym, better pumps, etc when i load up on junk before a work out as opposed to eating a potatoe.

Again, nothing new, it's simple sugar, it gets into the blood stream quicker, and if you have anykind of a workout for a long period of time, you crash in the middle of it, very little in the way of glycogen storage!

[The True Adonis]

i've pm'd you two times since you first came up with your methods

you've never replied...im open to try it for a few

just give me the basics and i'll follow it and be the real judge

Ok, I need you to instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log.  

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.

[Buttsuck]

Again, nothing new, it's simple sugar, it gets into the blood stream quicker, and if you have anykind of a workout for a long period of time, you crash in the middle of it, very little in the way of glycogen storage!

And you work out for what, 3 hours? I've been in the gym as long as 2 hours without crashing. Yeah when i get home and im done with cardio i crash but who cares when im home. I got nothing to do for the rest of the day other then school work, keeping up the apt, and posting on getbig.

[Buttsuck]

And you work out for what, 3 hours? I've been in the gym as long as 2 hours without crashing. Yeah when i get home and im done with cardio i crash but who cares when im home. I got nothing to do for the rest of the day other then school work, keeping up the apt, and posting on getbig.

Also that whole thing about crashing is bullshit. I work out twice a day and do cardio on 1600 calories and have plenty of energy. Total nonsense. You are mentally weak if you cannot do these things.

[The True Adonis]

Also that whole thing about crashing is bullshit. I work out twice a day and do cardio on 1600 calories and have plenty of energy. Total nonsense. You are mentally weak if you cannot do these things.

I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.

[Buttsuck]

I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.

Hahahah sometimes i do 32 sets for chest just because i like the way it feels.... these people are brainwashed.

[svtmuscle]

True Adonis, what is your college education? Professional Experience outside of being an e-whore?

[swilkins1984]

Adonis, do you use either of these formulas as a basis to calculate caloric needs:

(1) Harris-Benedict Formula (with BMR based on total body weight)Women:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 X weight in kg) + (1.8 X height in cm) - (4.7 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 655 + (4.354 X weight in lbs) + (4.569 X height in inches) - (4.7 X age in years)

And in case you are wondering, the formula for Men is:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kg) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 66 + (6.213 X weight in lbs) + (12.69  X height in inches) - (6.8 X age in years)

Now that you know your BMR, you can calculate TDEE by multiplying your BMR by your activity multiplier from the chart below:

Activity Multiplier

Sedentary (desk job, with little or no exercise)
= BMR X 1.2  
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
= BMR X 1.375  
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
= BMR X 1.55  
Very active (intensive exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
= BMR X 1.725  
Extremely active (intensive daily exercise/sports & physical job or twice per day training for marathon, races, fitness contests, etc.)
= BMR X 1.9  

(2) Katch-McArdle Formula (with BMR based on lean body mass)

BMR (men/women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean body mass in kg)
OR
BMR (men/women) = 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs)

Example:

You weigh 130 lbs. (59.1 kg)
Your body fat percentage is 20% (26 lbs. fat, 104 lbs. lean)
Your lean body mass is 104 lbs. (47.3 kg)
Your BMR = 370 + (21.6 X 47.3) = 1392 calories

To determine TDEE from BMR, you simply multiply BMR by the activity multiplier (which is the same as those used in the Katch-McArdle formula above)

[The True Adonis]

True Adonis, what is your college education? Professional Experience outside of being an e-whore?

Physics.

[The Squadfather]

I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.

hahahaha, exactly, these guys make it sound as if they need to eat like a Greek God moving mountains to fuel their massive 13 set chest workout.

[The True Adonis]

Adonis, do you use either of these formulas as a basis to calculate caloric needs:

(1) Harris-Benedict Formula (with BMR based on total body weight)Women:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 X weight in kg) + (1.8 X height in cm) - (4.7 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 655 + (4.354 X weight in lbs) + (4.569 X height in inches) - (4.7 X age in years)

And in case you are wondering, the formula for Men is:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kg) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 66 + (6.213 X weight in lbs) + (12.69  X height in inches) - (6.8 X age in years)

Now that you know your BMR, you can calculate TDEE by multiplying your BMR by your activity multiplier from the chart below:

Activity Multiplier

Sedentary (desk job, with little or no exercise)
= BMR X 1.2  
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
= BMR X 1.375  
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
= BMR X 1.55  
Very active (intensive exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
= BMR X 1.725  
Extremely active (intensive daily exercise/sports & physical job or twice per day training for marathon, races, fitness contests, etc.)
= BMR X 1.9  

(2) Katch-McArdle Formula (with BMR based on lean body mass)

BMR (men/women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean body mass in kg)
OR
BMR (men/women) = 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs)

Example:

You weigh 130 lbs. (59.1 kg)
Your body fat percentage is 20% (26 lbs. fat, 104 lbs. lean)
Your lean body mass is 104 lbs. (47.3 kg)
Your BMR = 370 + (21.6 X 47.3) = 1392 calories

To determine TDEE from BMR, you simply multiply BMR by the activity multiplier (which is the same as those used in the Katch-McArdle formula above)

No I do not.

Those read high and are innaccurate as they are not individualized.

My formula is based totally on individual performance and their own trends.  Totally individualized.

[onlyme]

Physics.

Prove it.  Without proof you are full of shit

[affy]

Ok, I need you to instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log. 

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.

i knew it

bullshit...all i asked for was a formula to prove ME wrong, and your the one giving the stipulations

you just pwned yourself agian...im done with you.  I wont hound you any longer like you wished, its not worth it

[svtmuscle]

Prove it.  Without proof you are full of shit

And just believing that a calorie is a calorie, your a complete retard. Let's eat 3,000 calories a day of Big Mac's, and 3,000 calories a day of chicken and brown rice, lets see who comes out on top.