1.5 months following The Adonis Principles...progress pics

[MisterMagoo]

No because the weight is different. Heavy bench will use more fibers the 25 pound flys. Now you are just being silly.

no, you're being obtuse. the "calorie is a calorie" theory absolutely equates to the exercise equivalent that "exercise is exercise" and i guaran-damn-tee you that no matter what you do flys are not going to activate the muscle tissue of something like incline dumbbell bench. period.

[The Enigma]

saying a calorie is a calorie is sort of like saying exercise is exercise, so it doesn't matter if you're doing pushups and jumping rope or lifting heavy weights, because either way you'll grow the same way. protein != carbs != fat.

Magoo, Buttsucker is quite delusional. To say that an empty calorie (soda) is the same as a calorie from fruit, just shows his LACK of quantifiable knowledge.

[Bast000]

Hahahah be careful not to offend his diet. People get very offended when you mock their miserable existance of eating boiled chicken and lettuce WITH NO SALT might i add.

hahaha everyone denying Tweeter's progress in this thread is 30% body fat or more.

[Saxon]

Yea.... you may be malnourished, but you will still lose weight. Thats the point. Eating 1000 units of energy is the same as a 1000 units of energy. Does a gas stove and an electric stove both not heat the same pot?

Cooking on a gas stove is more precise than a electric stove, it is much easier to control the heat

[Buttsuck]

no, you're being obtuse. the "calorie is a calorie" theory absolutely equates to the exercise equivalent that "exercise is exercise" and i guaran-damn-tee you that no matter what you do flys are not going to activate the muscle tissue of something like incline dumbbell bench. period.

No.... the muscle is stimulated... it grows. The process is rather simple. Look how big Ronnie is and look how bad his form is. It doesn't matter. It is all a joke. As long as you are consistant it grows.

[delta9mda]

Hahahah be careful not to offend his diet. People get very offended when you mock their miserable existance of eating boiled chicken and lettuce WITH NO SALT might i add.

such a brainwashed dork you are. i dont eat boiled chicken, at all, ever. lots of fish and red meat. im type o blood and those types are made for processing red meat more efficiently than others. hi baast

[MisterMagoo]

the "adonis principles" fall apart for one big reason as well. if a calorie were a calorie, that would mean it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose muscle while dieting. calories are calories and no matter what you lose pure fat. if the "principles" were a regulated diet outline then you could understand how he can claim that his weight loss plan is different.

but according to him, as long as you're below maintenance it doesn't matter, and somehow you only lose fat. so the question becomes, why do people get weaker and lose muscle tissue when they diet? according to the "principles" it physically can't happen.

[Bast000]

such a brainwashed dork you are. i dont eat boiled chicken, at all, ever. lots of fish and red meat. im type o blood and those types are made for processing red meat more efficiently than others. hi baast

haha we all want to look like you too 

[SteelePegasus]

hahaha everyone denying Tweeter's progress in this thread is 30% body fat or more.

care to explain the progress to us?

he dieted for 6 weeks and lost some weight...where is the progress?

jenny craig, curves, taebo, richard simmons... could have gotten him those exactly results

our contention is that if he had followed the standard bodybuilding protocol that he would look better

[The True Adonis]

You fuckign MORONS.

Get it through your head.

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE.  A MACRONUTRIENT IS NOT A MACRONUTRIENT.


Get the RDA.  Thats it.  

[Bast000]

but according to him, as long as you're below maintenance it doesn't matter, and somehow you only lose fat. so the question becomes, why do people get weaker and lose muscle tissue when they diet? according to the "principles" it physically can't happen.

people get weaker because they have low glycogen levels in a deficit.

[The True Adonis]

care to explain the progress to us?

he dieted for 6 weeks and lost some weight...where is the progress?

jenny craig, curves, taebo, richard simmons... could have gotten him those exactly results

our contention is that if he had followed the standard bodybuilding protocol that he would look better

He has done that 4 other times.  He contends he has had THE BEST results with my methods so far.

Don`t put words into his mouth moron.

[MisterMagoo]

No.... the muscle is stimulated... it grows. The process is rather simple. Look how big Ronnie is and look how bad his form is. It doesn't matter. It is all a joke. As long as you are consistant it grows.

okay it's becoming painfully obvious you're just a troll. yes, you're right. how could i not realize it. i figured ronnie was big because his training focuses on heavy lifts like bench and squats, because he eats a VERY regulated diet (the chad mentioned in 2003 he managed to stick to "clean foods" roughly 80% of the time), and of course the pharmacological assistance.

i somehow didn't realize that his heavy compound lifting, strict diet, drugs, and genetics were not the reason he grew, but rather just because the human body will grow no matter what you do.

oh wait, no, that's retarded. and it explains why you're the size of a poverty-stricken child.

[Hedgehog]

Hahahah be careful not to offend his diet. People get very offended when you mock their miserable existance of eating boiled chicken and lettuce WITH NO SALT might i add.

Why do you think a strict diet is based on boiled chicken and lettuce?

I suggest that you get Sports Nutrition by Ron Maughan.

If you ever do, you'll learn how to eat for performance, with a 50/30/20 Carb/Fat/Prot ratio.

-Hedge

[delta9mda]

hi bast, love ya

[Buttsuck]

people get weaker because they have low glycogen levels in a deficit.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH THATS WHY WE HAVE CARB UP DAYS!!!! ROFL!!! CARB UP DAYS!!!!! "OMG I WOULD HAVE WON THE SHOW BUT I DIDN'T CARB UP ENOUGH!!!!!" Fucking bloody joke you guys are ahahahah. I laugh at you all

[The True Adonis]

okay it's becoming painfully obvious you're just a troll. yes, you're right. how could i not realize it. i figured ronnie was big because his training focuses on heavy lifts like bench and squats, because he eats a VERY regulated diet (the chad mentioned in 2003 he managed to stick to "clean foods" roughly 80% of the time), and of course the pharmacological assistance.

i somehow didn't realize that his heavy compound lifting, strict diet, drugs, and genetics were not the reason he grew, but rather just because the human body will grow no matter what you do.

oh wait, no, that's retarded. and it explains why you're the size of a poverty-stricken child.

Look Gay Fagoo,

Layne Norton alredy told you there is no such thing as a clean food or a dirty food, a good or a bad food.

Go suck a cock.

[Bast000]

care to explain the progress to us?

he dieted for 6 weeks and lost some weight...where is the progress?

losing weight (fat)  isn't progress? 

haha ok, steeledildo.

[Buttsuck]

Why do you think a strict diet is based on boiled chicken and lettuce?

I suggest that you get Sports Nutrition by Ron Maughan.

If you ever do, you'll learn how to eat for performance, with a 50/30/20 Carb/Fat/Prot ratio.

-Hedge

It is all the same....

[MisterMagoo]

people get weaker because they have low glycogen levels in a deficit.

adonis claims glycogen is too minor of a factor to make a difference in anything.

Only 1 PERCENT of muscle is made up of glycogen.

So therefore if your Glycogen levels are Full, around 2000 calories THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO PRODUCE ANY DIFFERENCE!

[The Enigma]

the "adonis principles" fall apart for one big reason as well. if a calorie were a calorie, that would mean it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose muscle while dieting. calories are calories and no matter what you lose pure fat. if the "principles" were a regulated diet outline then you could understand how he can claim that his weight loss plan is different.

but according to him, as long as you're below maintenance it doesn't matter, and somehow you only lose fat. so the question becomes, why do people get weaker and lose muscle tissue when they diet? according to the "principles" it physically can't happen.

Adonis lives for the calorie is a calorie BS.

Quality calories must always be taken into account........NOT McDONALDS.

[delta9mda]

Why do you think a strict diet is based on boiled chicken and lettuce?

I suggest that you get Sports Nutrition by Ron Maughan.

If you ever do, you'll learn how to eat for performance, with a 50/30/20 Carb/Fat/Prot ratio.

-Hedge

owned

[The True Adonis]

adonis claims glycogen is too minor of a factor to make a difference in anything.

Appearance wise you dumb gay.

Not PERFORMANCE wise you carb hating queer.

[Hedgehog]

You fuckign MORONS.

Get it through your head.

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE.  A MACRONUTRIENT IS NOT A MACRONUTRIENT.


Get the RDA. Thats it. 

If a calorie is a calorie...

Why then, do you recommend milk and fruit?

The point is,

FRUIT AND MILK will DRAMATICALLY help reduce bodyfat specifically in the abdominal region.

I just love how people try to avoid it for no reason whatsoever.

Another victory for modern science and another loss for idiotic gym science.

-Hedge

[The Enigma]

You fuckign MORONS.

Get it through your head.

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE.  A MACRONUTRIENT IS NOT A MACRONUTRIENT.


Get the RDA.  Thats it.  

The RDA has been OUTDATED for 30 years!!