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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2007, 06:16:10 AM »
1-NO
2-Yes
3-NO
4-NO
5-Yes
6-NO
7-N0

Good grief I hope no 18 y/o takes your advice.

Without explanation, this is next to useless.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2007, 06:26:51 AM »

Below are the 3 ways to strength train and build muscle:NOTE"GH15 only listed 1 he left out the other 2".

1.   lifting a maximal load, a.k.a, the maximal-effort method
2.   lifting a sub-maximal load to failure or near failure, a.k.a, the repeated-effort method
3.   lifting (or throwing) a sub-maximal load with the highest possible speed, a.k.a, the dynamic-effort method

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2007, 06:28:57 AM »
heavy weight builds bigger muscles, thats bodybuilding 101
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2007, 06:29:59 AM »
heavy weight builds bigger muscles, thats bodybuilding 101

Leave it to rooster to dumb down a thread...lol

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2007, 06:30:12 AM »
heavy weight builds bigger muscles, thats bodybuilding 101

Way too general. What exactly is "heavy"..Heavy weight with at least moderate 6-12 reps i'd agree with.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2007, 06:32:15 AM »
ok I will explain.

1- As a skinny kid trying to pack on mass back in the 80's for jr. high football up until now nearly 20 years later after studying the strength training industry along w/ what many other experts in strength coaching field believe, watching countless DVD's, attending seminars, and reading articles, books and abstracts by highly successful strength coaches in the industry, training fitness competitors as well as athletes and the general public , and a good 18 years of "in the trenches" experience to say high reps with light/moderate weight is ideal for building leg development is simply not true. I advocate a VARIETY of rep ranges and loads for training legs.
Sure you can throw in a 15 rep set every now and then but to develop the High Threshold Motor Units ( TYPE IIA and IIB ) or FAST TWITCH muscle fibers you have got to train with a load 85% or greater of your 1RM.

Except that your emphasis and background seems to be strength, not development, exactly what gh15 was differentiating. I think some here can't read between the lines of someone whose second language is english. If the idea's development, low reps are not at all optimal except in terms of heightened injury potential. Very few if any top bodybuilders are regularly doing low reps, except for videos.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2007, 06:41:58 AM »

2. lift only as heavy as you can lift with good form! all the show off movements should be kept to either  when your legs are the size of kamali legs and already been through the growing phase which was years ago for a professional bodybuilder,,or to a specific day of the month that you feel like showing off and not training the muscle for growth purpose. you dont go and put 6 plates each side of the bar when you are 200lb and the pro next to you is 270lb,,dont work this way,,,yes  even if you are on drugs!! the fact you juice dont mean you need to fuck yourself up and not improve,,chose a day to do it,,once a month,,to satisfy your need to be the "best" in the gym

Pumpster, hmmm, I wonder what ever happened to the strict form theory I gave you??

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2007, 06:47:56 AM »
heavy weight builds bigger muscles, thats bodybuilding 101
so its safe to assume you never go heavy
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2007, 06:48:18 AM »
so its safe to assume you never go heavy
hahahahaha.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2007, 06:49:09 AM »
Pumpster, hmmm, I wonder what ever happened to the strict form theory I gave you??

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Good form does not necessarily equal strict, which i just mentioned. Do you read the other posts? You're stuck on an unproven theory.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2007, 06:49:53 AM »
so its safe to assume you never go heavy
not anymore punk ass, i'm old.  but in my heyday, you couldn't have carred my jock.
i've seen tons of punks like you come and go in the gym, guys like you never last.
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2007, 06:51:48 AM »
not anymore punk ass, i'm old.  but in my heyday, you couldn't have carred my jock.
i've seen tons of punks like you come and go in the gym, guys like you never last.
As if you know anything about dan18, he looks like he is above 40... how is that "not lasting"...

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2007, 06:55:53 AM »
As if you know anything about dan18, he looks like he is above 40... how is that "not lasting"...
not sure how too take that ???
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2007, 06:57:00 AM »
Good form does not necessarily equal strict, which i just mentioned. Do you read the other posts? You're stuck on an unproven theory.

Well, good form is closer to strict form in meaning as opposed to cheat curls or anything that is sloppy looking A'la Branch.

Why don't we ask GH15 what he means when he writes "Good Form"......

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2007, 06:59:08 AM »
Well, good form is closer to strict form in meaning as opposed to cheat curls or anything that is sloppy looking A'la Branch.

Why don't we ask GH15 what he means when he writes "Good Form"......

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Doesn't really matter; good form such as properly controlled cheat curls that aren't reverse cleans for example, work without being strict.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2007, 06:59:27 AM »
not sure how too take that ???
oh,  ;D how old are you?

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #66 on: April 05, 2007, 06:59:47 AM »
Well, good form is closer to strict form in meaning as opposed to cheat curls or anything that is sloppy looking A'la Branch.

Why don't we ask GH15 what he means when he writes "Good Form"......

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um because he dosent speak to homos....




ok sorry that was immature and insensative...cant help myself sometimes...


ok that was the last one..truce...


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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #67 on: April 05, 2007, 06:59:56 AM »
not anymore punk ass, i'm old.  but in my heyday, you couldn't have carred my jock.
i've seen tons of punks like you come and go in the gym, guys like you never last.
you carry you're jock in a nickle bag zip lock...
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #68 on: April 05, 2007, 07:00:33 AM »
um because he dosent speak to homos....




Good point LOL

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2007, 07:01:08 AM »
Doesn't really matter; good form such as properly controlled cheat curls that aren't reverse cleans for example, work without being strict.

Properly controlled cheat curls?!?  Dude, its a move solely based on momentum and very little bicep muscle action.  Why, don't we ask GH15 instead??

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2007, 07:01:27 AM »
not anymore punk ass, i'm old.  but in my heyday, you couldn't have carred my jock.
i've seen tons of punks like you come and go in the gym, guys like you never last.
still using insulin, bird legs?

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2007, 07:02:28 AM »
Properly controlled cheat curls?!?  Dude, its a move solely based on momentum and very little bicep muscle action.  Why, don't we ask GH15 instead??

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Wrong, good form on cheats is to maintain control, not the same as reverse cheats. Obviously you can't tell the difference. Asking gh15 isn't going to help, he's only one opinion either way.

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2007, 07:02:37 AM »
still using insulin, bird legs?


hahaahahaha.....his thighs look like my calves...











when i was 13

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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2007, 07:02:44 AM »
oh,  ;D how old are you?
its cool im 40 and i look better than old rooster natty as well ...
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Re: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2007, 07:03:30 AM »

hahaahahaha.....his thighs look like my calves...











when i was 13
hahahahaha, exactly, he keeps his legs skinny so he can run from the cops when they chase him down for "approaching" 12 year olds.