I guess my point is that I feel a little dumb following FLEX for my intro years when I should have just lifted with a football buddy who is now a college RB and got built quick. Lol. But seriously, it seems like nobody does full squats besides Platz. I mean the FLEX shoots are not real bc I can't see Ruhl locking out with 585 incline or whoever. It's like Haney said, parallel is fine. I know Milos says full range but it really seems he is the only one doing it. I think with hams like TP, it would be hard to do full reps and ATG is a helluva lot easier than an average trainer but it seems like many pros don't do it. I agree more with Mr. I here because the average trainer do shit reps like Ronnie on back, Branch on arms, or JOJ on anything. Now that I rambled, enjoy.