Bonds is getting TOO CLOSE!

[tu_holmes]

Great  One day maybe he too can be a zillionare with the world's worst attitude, filled with resentment and bitterness. Well worth it.

Bonds doesn't want to be a role model... he's said so on many occasions.

How can anyone talk about Barry Bonds when it comes to being a role model?

[americanbulldog]

Bonds doesn't want to be a role model... he's said so on many occasions.

How can anyone talk about Barry Bonds when it comes to being a role model?

It's too bad that Bond's talent, and skills get indighted because of his chit attitude.  I don't like his disposition, but he isn't hired to be nice. 

[tu_holmes]

It's too bad that Bond's talent, and skills get indighted because of his chit attitude.  I don't like his disposition, but he isn't hired to be nice. 

Exactly. The guy is paid to hit the baseball out of the park... And he's done a FANTASTIC job at that.

Hate all you want, that's a future hall of famer there... What will you be remembered for?

[bmacsys]

Exactly. The guy is paid to hit the baseball out of the park... And he's done a FANTASTIC job at that.

Hate all you want, that's a future hall of famer there... What will you be remembered for?

Big Mac was a sure first ballot hall of famer too. Same thing is going to happen to Bonds even with a 73 homerun season and 755+ career taters. The writers won't vote him in first ballot. They are going to make him pay for both cheating and then lying about it.

[bmacsys]

HAHAHAHAHA Bonds has 1000 more walks then Aaron, how can one argue with that, can't believe douche bags on here claim he would have barely hit 500 without any drugs.

After 1998 Bonds was a totally different player. He saw the attention Sosa and Big Mac were getting and got jealous. The Cardinals were playing the Giants at Candlestick and Big Mac was treated like a god. Thats when he vowed to friends and teammates he wouldn't let those two guys grab all the spotlight and in the 1998 offseason he started his AAS use. He never had the real big power numbers before that. He would hit 35 to 40 homers a year. Then it magically shot up to 73 at 37 years old?

[MikeThaMachine]

After 1998 Bonds was a totally different player. He saw the attention Sosa and Big Mac were getting and got jealous. The Cardinals were playing the Giants at Candlestick and Big Mac was treated like a god. Thats when he vowed to friends and teammates he wouldn't let those two guys grab all the spotlight and in the 1998 offseason he started his AAS use. He never had the real big power numbers before that. He would hit 35 to 40 homers a year. Then it magically shot up to 73 at 37 years old?

He only hit over 50 once and he was setting records for walks in the early to mid 90's. He was always a dangerous hitter.

[MikeThaMachine]

Big Mac was a sure first ballot hall of famer too. Same thing is going to happen to Bonds even with a 73 homerun season and 755+ career taters. The writers won't vote him in first ballot. They are going to make him pay for both cheating and then lying about it.

Yeah ok your a moron. How is argueably the best player ever gonna not make it the first time. He's won 7 MVPs and no one else has more then 3, there is no way he won't be in the HOF on his first try.

[Grape Ape]

Yeah ok your a moron. How is argueably the best player ever gonna not make it the first time. He's won 7 MVPs and no one else has more then 3, there is no way he won't be in the HOF on his first try.

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the american sportswriter.  After all, they're the ones who gave Colon the Cy over Santana last year, and IRod the MVP over Jeter in 99.

[tu_holmes]

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the american sportswriter.  After all, they're the ones who gave Colon the Cy over Santana last year, and IRod the MVP over Jeter in 99.

Oh, don't get me wrong, the American sports writers are total haters.

They talk about cheating, when EVERYONE in baseball knew the guys were juicing. Big fucking deal, it was good for baseball, and you know what? It's STILL good for baseball.

Baseball was done, the long ball, and now the steroid "scandal" (I thought for it to be a scandal it had to be a big secret?) has brought baseball back.

No publicity is bad publicity.

[Grape Ape]

They talk about cheating, when EVERYONE in baseball knew the guys were juicing. Big fucking deal, it was good for baseball, and you know what? It's STILL good for baseball.

This is exactly the correct point.

How can baseball prosecute those who they shamelessly promototed throught the whole thing.  They fucked this whole thing up.  They just need to move on from here, and deal with the ramifications of their actions during the late 90s.

I can't get into it now, but it's a shame that Bonds' accomplishments will be clouded by this.  His 73 hr season is amazing on so many levels.

[MikeThaMachine]

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the american sportswriter.  After all, they're the ones who gave Colon the Cy over Santana last year, and IRod the MVP over Jeter in 99.

This isn't a reward for a seasons work but for a lifetime and Barry will retire with many records and having done feats no other man in the history of baseball has done. There is no way they could deny him a first time ballot HOF without losing any and all credibility that they have. It would be like saying Arnold could have not been Governor because he was known to have smoked weed when he was younger, it doesn't matter when you have an entire career of greatness that can't be denied.

[bmacsys]

Pretty obvious Selig is on the sauce.

Ahahahah! Selig is ripped.

[americanbulldog]

This isn't a reward for a seasons work but for a lifetime and Barry will retire with many records and having done feats no other man in the history of baseball has done. There is no way they could deny him a first time ballot HOF without losing any and all credibility that they have. It would be like saying Arnold could have not been Governor because he was known to have smoked weed when he was younger, it doesn't matter when you have an entire career of greatness that can't be denied.

I sincerely hope so.  Bond's isn't guilty of anything most of the MLBPA members were already doing.  He just did it at a totally higher level than anyone else.  Like it was already said, he was getting on base at a horrific level pre steroids.  He made Andy Van Slyke and Bobby Bonilla, Mike Levallier (SP).  When he came to the Giants, Matt Williams got an extended lease on life, and Jeff Kent got an MVP.  He makes everyone around him better hitters.  HE BETTER be a first ballot HOF.  When you look at what he accomplished on the field, he is BAR NONE, the GREATEST player of ALL TIME. 

[big L dawg]

the all time hitter is not in the HOF and the all time HR hitter wont be either

[YoungBlood]

AND is an obnoxious,

If there is something Barry Bonds is NOT, it's obnoxious.

[body88]

Ahahahah! Selig is ripped.

Selig blows coke to "get up" for games.

[pumpster]

If there is something Barry Bonds is NOT, it's obnoxious.

Sure buddy

[YoungBlood]

Hey Dipshit/pumpster, being in SF you would think you would see his obnoxiousness often, right? Well, if he ignores the media/press, and sits by himself with nobody talking to him in the clubhouse.....how is that obnoxious?

Maybe if he were like Terrell Owens running his mouth to the press, taking his life or asking (yet again!) for a trade to another team because he can't get a Super Bowl ring for every finger, THEN I would consider Bonds obnoxious. But that's not what he is.

Have a nice day Dipshit/pumpster.

[pumpster]

Hey Dipshit/pumpster, being in SF you would think you would see his obnoxiousness often, right? Well, if he ignores the media/press, and sits by himself with nobody talking to him in the clubhouse.....how is that obnoxious?

Maybe if he were like Terrell Owens running his mouth to the press, taking his life or asking (yet again!) for a trade to another team because he can't get a Super Bowl ring for every finger, THEN I would consider Bonds obnoxious. But that's not what he is.

Have a nice day Dipshit/pumpster.

If it makes you better to think so, go to it dickhead. Lots of people find him obnxious; the fact that you don't see it says volumes about you.


Hope this helps

[tu_holmes]

If it makes you better to think so, go to it dickhead. Lots of people find him obnxious; the fact that you don't see it says volumes about you.


Hope this helps

I don't find him obnoxious at all actually... The people who find him obnoxious are usually the people who are nosey neighbors and what to be in everyone else's business.

They find it obnoxious that he DOESN'T want to talk to people...



  ob·nox·ious    audio  (b-nkshs, b-)  KEY 

ADJECTIVE:

   1. Very annoying or objectionable; offensive or odious: "I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution" (Ulysses S. Grant).
   2. Archaic Exposed to harm, injury, or evil: "The town ... now lies obnoxious to its foes" (John Bunyan).
   3. Archaic Deserving of or liable to censure.


I don't really find him annoying at all... he censures himself by not talking, and he isn't exposing himself to injury.

Perhaps if you just said that you "don't like the guy", It would be a more accurate statement.

[pumpster]

This forum's got about 5 regular posters. What any particular dude thinks is basically irrelevant.

There are plenty, probably even a majority, who can't stand him. The amount of verbiage or lackthereof is not the measure.

[tu_holmes]

This forum's got about 5 regular posters. What any particular dude thinks is basically irrelevant.

There are plenty, probably even a majority, who can't stand him. The amount of verbiage or lackthereof is not the measure.

Like I said, disliking someone doesn't make them obnoxious...

It is your right to hate if you want to though... Enjoy.

[YoungBlood]

Apparently, pumpster has his own definitions for words.
So, when does the Merriam-Pumpster dictionary come out?
We need to know how to define ones character, should we ever get into a discourse with pumpster.
I.D:10T

[pumpster]

Like I said, disliking someone doesn't make them obnoxious...

It is your right to hate if you want to though... Enjoy.

Dude be smart and stop trying to win a pissing contest, UNLESS you can come up with extensive polling supporting your opinion as that of the majority LOL. Absurd; you REALLY seem to have nothing to discuss other than defending your hero over trivia.

[pumpster]

Apparently, pumpster has his own definitions for words.
So, when does the Merriam-Pumpster dictionary come out?
We need to know how to define ones character, should we ever get into a discourse with pumpster.
I.D:10T

When you have to attack someone personally because you have nothing, it's defined as
D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E LOL