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Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« on: May 08, 2007, 12:28:17 PM »
My chest session i kicked of with bench press today

135 20 reps
225 15 reps
315 9 reps
after which i felt good so i did
360 one rep (coulda done more)
 then finally
370 for 1 rep
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all reps clean no one touching my bar...
I am shooting for 405 clean by the end of the yr
anyone else has any targets


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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 12:52:03 PM »
damn good lifting meso, you should get there by the end of the year, 30 pounds in 7 months is very doable.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 12:54:32 PM »
Damn thats good meso. Im at 365 for 1 myslelf. Im changing my lifting style though. No more dumb heavy. My fuggin joints cant take it. so i stay at like 315 and i just rep that out. But good luck man.


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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2007, 01:19:37 PM »
actually he could probably have it now or very close. If you want to give it a go and see wether or not you've got it already, I'd work this rep scheme on a day you're prep'd and good to go.

135x10x1 warmup
315x5x1
360x2x1
385x2x1
make your 405 attempt. I wouldn't work alot of reps or sets into it before hand. Just some hard pressing on the way up. After the warmup, you'll have your body pumped and you can prep it for the attempt on the way up by going heavier and heavier but not burning out on sets. If I was you, I'd cut out that useless set of 225 and jump straight to 315 after your warmup. I cut it out and kept me from gassing higher up in the weight.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 01:25:02 PM »
actually he could probably have it now or very close. If you want to give it a go and see wether or not you've got it already, I'd work this rep scheme on a day you're prep'd and good to go.

135x10x1 warmup
315x5x1
360x2x1
385x2x1
make your 405 attempt. I wouldn't work alot of reps or sets into it before hand. Just some hard pressing on the way up. After the warmup, you'll have your body pumped and you can prep it for the attempt on the way up by going heavier and heavier but not burning out on sets. If I was you, I'd cut out that useless set of 225 and jump straight to 315 after your warmup. I cut it out and kept me from gassing higher up in the weight.
no way should he go from 135 to 315 that's just stupid, do the 225 just don't do too many reps with it, do 135x10 225x6 315x4-5 and then maybe 375-385 for 1 and then get a liftoff and spotter for the 405 just make sure the handoff guy knows what he's doing.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 01:28:07 PM »
why not? Hell have more gas in the tank later down the road. Especially if he's bombing out on rep numbers like he already is. He's already hitting 315 for 9 reps AFTER all the reps on 135 and 225. He could easily hit 315 for 10-12 reps if he dumped the 225 anyway and at that rep range, he's at the top end of most working sets anyway! So I don't see why removing the 225 is a bad idea.


..but your rep and set scheme would work just as well too. I wouldn't call it stupid, just another path to the top of the mountain you ASSHOLE!  ;D

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
why not? Hell have more gas in the tank later down the road. Especially if he's bombing out on rep numbers like he already is. He's already hitting 315 for 9 reps AFTER all the reps on 135 and 225. He could easily hit 315 for 10-12 reps if he dumped the 225 anyway and at that rep range, he's at the top end of most working sets anyway! So I don't see why removing the 225 is a bad idea.
it's too big of a jump, i've known plenty of big benchers and not one of them ever did anything that crazy, i used to train with a Samoan dude who would do 20 with 135, 20 with 225, 15-18 with 315, 10-12 with 405 and 7-8 with 455 before hitting 4-5 with 500 and i used to say to him that he'd hit more with reps with 500 if he did less with the lighter weights and he said that the reps helped him and that you should always warm up correctly.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2007, 01:42:39 PM »
There's a big difference between someone who eats 405 for lunch and someone trying to hit it for the first time. I'm sure he didn't even feel the first two sets with that weight. I do agree with you on the proper warm up though. You'll thank yourself in the long run stretching, warmups, etc. when moving heavy ass weight. It'll be the day that ya don't think you really need it when you blow something out. Either way, I'm sure he can get it or is really close going with either one of the schemes.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2007, 01:46:30 PM »
There's a big difference between someone who eats 405 for lunch and someone trying to hit it for the first time. I'm sure he didn't even feel the first two sets with that weight. I do agree with you on the proper warm up though. You'll thank yourself in the long run stretching, warmups, etc. when moving heavy ass weight. It'll be the day that ya don't think you really need it when you blow something out. Either way, I'm sure he can get it or is really close going with either one of the schemes.
like i said every guy i've ever known who could bench 500 or over and it's only been 6 or 7 but every one of those guys did one 45 pound plate progressions and a couple of them only went up by a 25 pound plate per side each time.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 02:00:52 PM »
135lbs is a excellent ideas for a warm-up, just to get the motor units primed for some heavy stuff later. (some lifters will just use the bar for 20 or so reps) If that were me at that weight, I  would include some more tweaking for a heavy BP workout with going to 205 for some more  warm-ups. Than maybe 275. After that, up the ladder to the  320's for the more serious presses..  Remember a warm-up is just that, should have 3 or 4 easy reps left before quiting. And they should not really tax the body at all. Too many guy's can have a poor bench workout because on not having the pressing units fully primed and using too much weight in warm-ups.

Might try lockouts (4 to 6 inches), after the regular BP session, with around 420-440 or so. Helps to get the body use to handling extra weight. Also can give more confidence to the lifter. After all, lifting can be just as much a mental effort as a physical one. The potential to blast beyond 400 is well with-in the abilities of quite a few men. It's the mental barrier of having 400 lbs on the bar, that can have some people thinking too much in a negative way about it. Way too concerned about numbers, not what they can actually lift. Good Luck.
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2007, 02:09:47 PM »
no way should he go from 135 to 315 that's just stupid, do the 225 just don't do too many reps with it, do 135x10 225x6 315x4-5 and then maybe 375-385 for 1 and then get a liftoff and spotter for the 405 just make sure the handoff guy knows what he's doing.

i agree...135 to 315 is a big tension change on the joints and tendons. i don't even do that for deadlifts. i never add more than a plate.

i personally would do...

135x15
225x5
315x5
365x1
385x1

do that for 3 weeks then do...

135x15
225x5
315x3
365x1
attempt 405

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2007, 02:33:45 PM »
Partials & chains will help get u there baby.

Warmups are ESSENTIAL, on the other hand you might be able to cut the reps at 315 to 5 on the days going for a max.

Don't go with singles too often if you want to stay healthy, unless you're one of the lucky ones like onlyme who's never gotten injured.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2007, 02:45:49 PM »
like i said every guy i've ever known who could bench 500 or over and it's only been 6 or 7 but every one of those guys did one 45 pound plate progressions and a couple of them only went up by a 25 pound plate per side each time.

Weight acclimatisation is a major thing as well, or for me anyway.  I find jumping up too quickly makes the weight feel heavier than it really is, probably in my head but steadily building up the weight works for me.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2007, 03:51:10 PM »
actually he could probably have it now or very close. If you want to give it a go and see wether or not you've got it already, I'd work this rep scheme on a day you're prep'd and good to go.

135x10x1 warmup
315x5x1
360x2x1
385x2x1
make your 405 attempt. I wouldn't work alot of reps or sets into it before hand. Just some hard pressing on the way up. After the warmup, you'll have your body pumped and you can prep it for the attempt on the way up by going heavier and heavier but not burning out on sets. If I was you, I'd cut out that useless set of 225 and jump straight to 315 after your warmup. I cut it out and kept me from gassing higher up in the weight.

I would even go as far as recommend something like this:

Bar-only 20 reps warmup

135x15x1 warmup
225x5x1
315x1x1
360x1x1
385x1x1

Then go for the 405 lift.

Mesmorph: You may be able to lift it, but give yourself a fair shot at doing it as well.

Do it by training benchpress lighter and more explosive next week. Don't go any higher in reps and sets though, just back off the weights some.

Also, make sure you haven't trained triceps or chest at least during the three days before the attempt.

Finally, rest the day before the attempt. Preferably, give yourself two days of rest.

The key is, as you see, to back off the weights slightly before the attempt, so you're well-rested.

Just like elite athletes do prior to major contests.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2007, 03:53:30 PM »
i havent maxed on bench for a while...
ive just been doin 8-10 with 315 as my final set
but today i felt good so i went for it. i didnt plan in mind to go for a max
I do barbell presses one week then dumbell presses the other
my best on dumbel was a clean 6 reps with 145
that was after 15 reps with 115
and 9 reps with 130.
no i would never jump from 135 to 315.. to much of a jump..dude tore his rotor cuff and pec in my gym the other day on the bench not  pretty
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2007, 07:50:47 PM »
My chest session i kicked of with bench press today

135 20 reps
225 15 reps
315 9 reps
after which i felt good so i did
360 one rep (coulda done more)
 then finally
370 for 1 rep
.
all reps clean no one touching my bar...
I am shooting for 405 clean by the end of the yr
anyone else has any targets




same goal, but i'm further back then you, right now i'm at 315 for 3, but my weight has been climbing like none other lately.

there is a bench competion for FOB Salerno(i'm currently in afghanistan) the end of next month and i want to hit 340.
my overall goal is 405 just cause its quad plates both sides, and i want to hit that by thanksgiving.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2007, 09:15:21 PM »
I haven't done maxes in awhile either but on heavier days or days I'm looking to hammer the heavier stuff my rep scheme looks a little like this..

135x15x1
315x10x1
365x5x1
375x2x1
385x2x1

or things along those lines...my log has it all in there. I get a decent warm up, move a fair amount of weight, and dig in for harder stuff.

I've also done

135x15x1
315x5x1
365x3x1
375x3x1
385x2x1

it just depends on how I feel that day. If i'm getting my earlier shit easily or want to go for more on the top end, i'll do less on the lower end.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2007, 05:48:49 AM »
same goal, but i'm further back then you, right now i'm at 315 for 3, but my weight has been climbing like none other lately.

there is a bench competion for FOB Salerno(i'm currently in afghanistan) the end of next month and i want to hit 340.
my overall goal is 405 just cause its quad plates both sides, and i want to hit that by thanksgiving.

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... I'm a 100% lifelong natural..
i have pressed 405 before got stuck halfway my spotter brought me up.. so i dont consider that a bench... i only consider what i havd done bar untouched i see guys heaving bars off their trainin partnet all the time i could 455 doing that... but any real trainer knows.. that is complete  crap.. there is 2 reall juiced up guys in my gym like in their late 20's and the will go up to 4 plates a side funny thing is when the train seperate its a whole diff matter on i havetrained with before he cant budge 315 for more than 2 reps.. the other can barely squeeze 225 for 10 reps... yet when they are together go up to 4 plates and a half i just laugh to myself when i see them .. when one shows up and the other doesnt.. its strickly machine presses... either wont bench without the other...
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2007, 06:04:21 AM »
Nice lifts Meso.  I think you are there on 405.  Hedge's rep scheme makes sense.  I agree with SquadFather...don't go from 135 to 315.

My goal for the year was 225x25 & 315x8...I got both already.  I have not attempted anything heavier in a decade!  You've inspired me.  I'll start going heavier.  We'll see how my joints hold up.
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2007, 06:23:03 AM »
Nice Meso....

I am aiming to simply be able to do 135 in a respectable manner. I can "do" it now, for 1 horrific wiggling all over the bench, bar all tilting ridiculous looking rep, but would like to just be able to stroll up and bench it like a hero.

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2007, 06:42:43 AM »
good lifts mindspin... i havnt consciously tried to increase my bench... ive been just stickin with 315... but now im like why not... when i first started training... i was really into the whole benching thing.. but as i got more experienced i got into dumbells... a lil more which i have actually grown to prefer in some respect... now ima see how far i can take it on bench... 8)

cq good lift trust me most of the women in my gym dont even bench ..actually i have never seen a woman bench more than 25's on each side.. in my time of training thats not to say they cant .. they are just waaaaaaaaaaaaay less ego driven than man... ;D
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2007, 08:02:46 AM »
Buzz Buster for MesMo78: We have three women lifters at our club. They all bench over 300+ and one locks out 400+ at the end of every workout, for high reps.. She weights around 200 of firm, well placed muscle. Anyone remember what Bev Francis benched? Current PL'ers bench for a few women is well up in the 400's (last time I looked...who knows now). Good luck.
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2007, 08:19:12 AM »
mmm wsup jpm...
i didnt say no woman can benh press i have seen vids all over tyhe net of women benching a lot of weight..
i just said i havent seen it in my gym..
i am well aware that there are some serious women benchers out there.
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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2007, 02:17:17 PM »
Buzz Buster for MesMo78: We have three women lifters at our club. They all bench over 300+ and one locks out 400+ at the end of every workout, for high reps.. She weights around 200 of firm, well placed muscle. Anyone remember what Bev Francis benched? Current PL'ers bench for a few women is well up in the 400's (last time I looked...who knows now). Good luck.

Very true, women hit some great numbers, I've seen some in competion and been well impressed! Meso just meant a good lift 'for me' I'm sure, as he knows what my body structure looks like, and 135 exceeds my bodyweight...plus I am soooo not a powerlifter :D

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Re: Bench target 405 by end of the yr
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2007, 02:23:09 PM »
My chest session i kicked of with bench press today

135 20 reps
225 15 reps
315 9 reps
after which i felt good so i did
360 one rep (coulda done more)
 then finally
370 for 1 rep
.
all reps clean no one touching my bar...
I am shooting for 405 clean by the end of the yr
anyone else has any targets




Good job bro, do you use the dumbbells in substitute for bench? Or it's always bench
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