I never said solid mcdonalds was optimal. Ass for the fatfree mass, thx for proving my point. There will be no muscle gained or lost in that short of a period of time. I have done a 12 pound carb up and looked exactly the same..... My god.... are you telling me not 1 of those 12 pounds gained was muscle? Correct.... People are confusing water movement with muscle gain and loss. Most people have no more then 40 pound of muscle on their body. You can go to Lee Haneys site and ask him if you want. He recommends getting 1 gram of protien per pound of MUSCLE... not BODY WEIGHT. He even makes this clear. If you won't listen to me, and you won't listen to a Mr. Olympia, and you wont listen to science and logic then im afraid we will have to cut this argument short because apparently im not getting through.
I didnt prove any of your points. I wish you were here in front of me so I could speak slowly to you. The study showed that someone utilizing a HIGH PROTEIN LOW CARB APPROACH did not lose any fat free mass. You think the examiners were worried if that 'fat free mass' was anything but water and muscle?
You did a 12-pound carb up....and that proves? So what? You ate food....you drank water and in a depleted state (which I assume you were if you did a carb up) you will draw water into muscle and so forth. I doubt very highly if ANY of that 12-lbs you gained was muscle. It was a carb up...nothing more. You gained BODY WEIGHT. You did not spontaneously go through a hypertrophy spurt.
I dont know, and dont care, how you came up with the "40 lbs of muscle" factoid....but with regard to Lee Haney....I couldnt care less what he says. He was Mr. Olympia...great. Wow....I guess he should be on MSNBC or something like that with that sort of creditial. I would take Layne Nortons or Brian Whitacres advice before I took Lee Haneys.
You seem to think that I am this dumb ass "all chest-triceps-biceps" dumb shit who thinks flex magazine is the bible of all bodybuilding. I have been doing this since before you were born. I have been competing since 97. I earned my drug-free pro card and compete along side Brian. While that may not amount to much in some peoples eyes, its more than you have done in the two years that you have been lifting. Call that a melt down statement if you like, but I have done, and seen what works for people. You listen to one person and take it as if its the word of god. You, my friend, have the blinders on....not me.
So, if you wont listen to mirad of people who have experience then perhaps it will be the end of this 'discussion' as you cant accept that your way is not the ONLY way...nor is it the ABSOLUTE RIGHT way.
I seriously put forth a challenge.....do this type of dieting...step on stage and see how you do against someone who diets the way you are saying is so horrible. Put your money where you mouth is.
