Disaster after following the TA principles.

[Bast000]

I agree.  I don't understand why Team TA can't agree that certain things simply work better for some people than others.  Maybe TA's principles would work for someone else, but they don't for me.  Human bodies aren't exactly the same.  For example, I could eat junk food until I'm blue in the face and it would take months and months before you would notice any appreciable increase in body fat on me, while with others you can see the change within days.

The pictures below are not before and after pictures from the TA principles, but the ones I will post will be similar (body weight is in the 150s and in the 180s, about a 25-30 pound difference):







Do I look any leaner in the smaller pictures?  NO.  I am smaller AND fatter and that is exactly where I was leading towards on the TA principles.  I know that based on past experience on low calorie diets, I would have simply dropped to the 150s in the same body fat as before.  Not to mention, TA would be laughing at me.  As it is now, I will be 200+ by September and just as lean as I am now if not leaner.

Cee21Jay - thanks!  I plan to hit a 500 pound deadlift this year.

Yes you do look leaner in the lighter pictures.  Look how your face is sunken in and you have clearer separation in your back and arms.

[The Master]

Yes you do look leaner in the lighter pictures.  Look how your face is sunken in and you have clearer separation in your back and arms.

Eaten any Dbol or pussy lately Bastiano?

[Matt C]

Matt is a fucking moron.

He keeps lying.  My methods are sound as can be.

TA - quit the bullshit charade.  You wanted to see if people would fall for your methods even though you knew they spelled disaster and I fell for it.  ok, ok I admit it, I was had. 

At least he doesn't randomly capitalize things and use backward apostrophes for every bloody contraction

LOL!!!

I always wondered what TA`s deal was with those stupid backward apostrophes LOL.

Yes you do look leaner in the lighter pictures.  Look how your face is sunken in and you have clearer separation in your back and arms.

In that case, I would argue that I still looked better in the bulked pictures, even if I was fatter.

Epic 20% + body fat:

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Yes you do look leaner in the lighter pictures.  Look how your face is sunken in and you have clearer separation in your back and arms.

Are you kidding Bast? He is clearly atleast 10% in the bulked picture. Matt C is a human wonder. Someday maybe we will see in on the olympia stage.

[Matt C]

Are you kidding Bast? He is clearly atleast 10% in the bulked picture. Matt C is a human wonder. Someday maybe we will see in on the olympia stage.

Clearly under 20%, yep!

Good luck to anyone who applies TA's principles with success.  I would have been ready for Auschwitz had I been on the program much longer. 

[Cromespyder]

my thoughts on the subject, what do you guys think?

i eat fast food very often in the offseason, yet really do not get fat..of course though, adonis' diet is bullshit. he's just trying to get attention/be annoying.

obviously, to lose weight, your total caloric intake must be below your maitinence.

junk foods, like donuts and mcdonalds, are extremely calorie dense, so you cannot eat a great deal of that type of food while staying under your maitinence.

for example, say someones maitinence is 3000 calories a day.

under the 'adonis diet', to just MAINTAIN, not lose weight. you could eat about the following daily

3 dougnuts
big mac
some fries
a small drink

DAILY.

lets say you eat say..5 times daily

each meal divded would be
1 fifth of a big mac
1 fifth of an order of fries
2/3rds of a dounut
1 5th of a soda

and how much protein would you get out of all that total, like 20-30 grams??
i would be starving, and waste away.
come on...

[Cromespyder]

Clearly under 20%, yep!

Good luck to anyone who applies TA's principles with success.  I would have been ready for Auschwitz had I been on the program much longer. 

i hear christian bale used the adonis principles to achieve his monster physique in the masochist.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

i hear christian bale used the adonis principles to achieve his monster physique in the masochist.

Christian Bale in the machinst owns 99% of getbig hahahahaha

[Matt C]

i hear christian bale used the adonis principles to achieve his monster physique in the masochist.

LOL!!! 

Christian Bale after long term use of the TA principles:

[pumpher]

LOL!!! 

Christian Bale after long term use of the TA principles:

Yuck! If anyone strives to attain that build (or lack thereof), they seriously have a problem...

[suckmymuscle]

My intelligence was never in question on this board. 

  Good that you put the rolleyes emoticon at the end, because this truly could only possibly be a sarcastic statement.

This sometimes (RARELY) comes up in real life too, when someone questions my intelligence.  Holding a genius level IQ (tested) and just shy of a Master's degree in math, I don't need to prove anything.

  You gotta be shitting me, right? If this is true, then I feel sorry for the state of American universities if a guy like you can almost earn a masters degree in math. As for the genius I.Q, take the test www.iqtest.com and let me know. I scored in the 99.36%.

I have such a good track record at this point I don't have to.

  Your track record is terrible. At least in this board.

It seems that you are unaware of it though.  Go do a google search of my name and achievements than get back to me.

  Ok. What's your name?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Camel Jockey]

You gotta be shitting me, right? If this is true, then I feel sorry for the state of American universities if a guy like you can almost earn a masters degree in math. As for the genius I.Q, take the test www.iqtest.com and let me know. I scored in the 99.36%.

He's Canadian.

[Hedgehog]

Yes you do look leaner in the lighter pictures.  Look how your face is sunken in and you have clearer separation in your back and arms.

Your physique was never on par with Matt C's.

Despite of what you took.





Kind of ironic, isn't it?



-Hedge

[Camel Jockey]

Your physique was never on par with Matt C's.

Despite of what you took.





Kind of ironic, isn't it?



-Hedge

So far, both him and Daddywaddy are confirmed to have sauced...

And now they're in Adonis' camp... Looks like hypocrisy to me.

[Matt C]

  Good that you put the rolleyes emoticon at the end, because this truly could only possibly be a sarcastic statement.

  You gotta be shitting me, right? If this is true, then I feel sorry for the state of American universities if a guy like you can almost earn a masters degree in math. As for the genius I.Q, take the test www.iqtest.com and let me know. I scored in the 99.36%.

  Your track record is terrible. At least in this board.

  Ok. What's your name?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I didn't say I was smarter than you.  You seem pretty intelligent and articulate.  I don't think you quite understand that no matter how you slice it, bodybuilding is subjective (Re: Ronnie VS. Dorian).  You are kind of like ND though.  Just because I disagree with you, it automatically means that I am unintelligent in some generalized type of way.  I can say that while I disagree with you on certain bodybuilding topics I know you are smart in other areas.  Like some girls I know who are bitches but good looking.  Some guys I know will lash out and say they are ugly but I stick with the facts.  Yes, they are bitchy, but not ugly.    Just because I disagree with you on some bodybuilding topics doesn't mean I am not intelligent overall.  That is just your bias coming out.  Regarding my intelligence, I could make you eat your words with any claim that I am not intelligent.  Lastly, I have a very long track record in math including high placings in national math contests, so really - don't both trying to dare suggest I am not smart in math - seriously, just don't.

[McFarland]

I didn't say I was smarter than you.  You seem pretty intelligent and articulate.  I don't think you quite understand that no matter how you slice it, bodybuilding is subjective (Re: Ronnie VS. Dorian).  You are kind of like ND though.  Just because I disagree with you, it automatically means that I am unintelligent in some generalized type of way.  I can say that while I disagree with you on certain bodybuilding topics I know you are smart in other areas.  Like some girls I know who are bitches but good looking.  Some guys I know will lash out and say they are ugly but I stick with the facts.  Yes, they are bitchy, but not ugly.    Just because I disagree with you on some bodybuilding topics doesn't mean I am not intelligent overall.  That is just your bias coming out.  Regarding my intelligence, I could make you eat your words with any claim that I am not intelligent.  Lastly, I have a very long track record in math including high placings in national math contests, so really - don't both trying to dare suggest I am not smart in math - seriously, just don't.

 

[Miss Demeanor]

You mean like the first letters of sentences and proper nouns?

Bzzzzzzt.  Try again.

[Matt C]

I just don't like debating facts.  Like debating with Joe that evolution is fact, or debating with members of the Flat Earth Society that the earth is a sphere.  I could, but I won't. 

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

[Camel Jockey]

Adonis is a fraud!

His principles are a sham!

Now let this thread sink already!

[Knives]

Your physique was never on par with Matt C's.

Despite of what you took.





Kind of ironic, isn't it?



-Hedge

Wait, you say Bast doesn't have a better physique than matt c? 

[Matt C]

first of all his claimed IQ is not an indicator of anything except that he claims it.  Second neither an IQ in the top 2% nor "almost" getting a masters in math is something to brag about.

Actually almost getting a Master's degree in math and already having completed all my undergrad work is plenty to brag about.  You think it's easy to get a math degree?  Like I said, go try it if that's how you think.  The percentage of people in the world who hold degrees in math is a very small one.

[Hedgehog]

Wait, you say Bast doesn't have a better physique than matt c? 

Is that such a virgin thought?

-Hedge

[climber]

Actually almost getting a Master's degree in math and already having completed all my undergrad work is plenty to brag about.  You think it's easy to get a math degree?  Like I said, go try it if that's how you think.  The percentage of people in the world who hold degrees in math is a very small one.

If I were you I wouldn't even bother replying to that pleb. He's probably still in high school or some sort of unemployed loser.

[Knives]

Is that such a virgin thought?

-Hedge

Virgin or not, Bast may even be outmuscled by Matt, but he has better symmetry

and what's this about him using, did he confess to that?

[shiftedShapes]

If I were you I wouldn't even bother replying to that pleb. He's probably still in high school or some sort of unemployed loser.

I'm 15, so I'm supposed to  be unemployed and in High School.  What's your excuse for living w/ your parents on a weekly allowance?