Some of us think out the box while the sheep accept Weider's highly commercial contest placings at face value.
Columbu, Zane, Dickerson and Bannout winning was basically like the Olympics without the Soviets, given the numbers of top guys who left or retired from the IFBB because of this crap. They saw it clearly while you continue with selective memory.
i don't understand what you're talking about here pump.
which competition exactly do you think serge should have won?
which top guys left or retired from the ifbb that could have made an impact? off the top of my head i'm thinking oliva, nubret, mentzer, padilla, coe, callender...yes, there were quite a few, but then...
oliva had his day in the sun and won a couple before becoming disillusioned with weider.
nubret was never a factor in competition. let's face it. if someone can tell me one mr olympia competition that he should have won, please come forward with the answer. he also became disillusioned with weider.
mentzer spat his dummy and took his bat and ball home but, tbh, the guy was never mr o and there is nothing at all to indicate he ever would be. he had great condition and muscularity and that's it. nothing particularly outstanding apart from that.
padilla was a great short man. should have beaten columbu but that was only because franco's legs were terrible and it was a bad year competition wise. any other year post 1967 and he would have been lucky to get top 6. in any case, he never showed that level of conditioning previous or since.
coe NEVER displayed a mr o physique. way too many flaws, simple as that. in fact i was being generous including him.
callender was a wild card. he was a front runner alright but only on a bad year. nothing particularly outstanding. kind of like dickerson.
dickerson simply didn't have a mr olympia body. did the gay community have something to do with this or was the quality really that bad that year. i'm not going to bother checking the field the year dickerson won it because, if he was the best of them, i would be bored out of my skull watching it.
zane had great structure, balance, symmetry and condition. everything but mass really. obviously a great competitor (as opposed to nubret) as the man knew where his strengths lay and he made sure he was better than everyone else at them. the guy was outmuscled in every olympia he entered but (and this is an important point) he was always balanced and shredded with near perfect symmetry and proportion. nubret had a far far better structure and much better lines and torso development, but he NEVER had zane's proportion (read: weak lower body) or condition
on stage. absolutely useless in pics by himself. why some people don't get this fact is beyond comprehension.
YOU HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER COMPETITORS ON STAGE BEFORE YOU CAN BEAT THEM ie pics are useless in this regard.
bannout: didn't like his shape (or his personality - beside the point) personally, but on the night he won he was the
best competitor on stage and if someone can come up with a single bber in the world that should have beaten him that night then let's hear your argument?
arguments can be made for fox who came later but they are purely speculative and are useless in the scheme of things so let me just say this and challenge anyone to prove otherwise:
fox NEVER displayed a physique that could have beaten haney, christian, gaspari, labrada, ...(i could go on but i think the point's made) in a bbing contest. again, he looked great 12 weeks out and in mag pics but when he was standing on stage next to the likes of lee haney and richie gaspari he was invisible.
robinson? see fox.
these are the cold hard facts pump. if you can come up with something other than conjecture and speculation please post it.
