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« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2007, 06:40:41 PM »

All you dumb queers, need to shut the fuck up, and listen to this mad cat blutos RAP,

This slick, talks the talk, but can walk the walk, he BACKS SHIT UP,

this guy is a super big, super strong, moderator, he has this bitch on lock

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Bluto:  I think that kind of volume would overwhelm most natties, but i have trained like that in the past (especially before i turned 25)... i have trained twice a day and for weeks on end without days off... the trick to maintain it is LOTS of sleep, great nutrition and short intense workouts!

i would probably do 2-a-days if i could but with a 10 hour working day plus other commitments it's just a no-go for me at this point
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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2007, 06:48:23 PM »



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Bluto:  I think that kind of volume would overwhelm most natties, but i have trained like that in the past (especially before i turned 25)... i have trained twice a day and for weeks on end without days off... the trick to maintain it is LOTS of sleep, great nutrition and short intense workouts!

i would probably do 2-a-days if i could but with a 10 hour working day plus other commitments it's just a no-go for me at this point

Yes it's not for everyone. And even for me, it's not all the time. It's tempting to add exercises to back day for example since I "only" do back, but I limit to just a few exercises.  Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2007, 09:59:48 PM »

Let's share routines big man, I just made one that may just be my best one yet: 5-6 times a week alternating Upper and Lower workouts, each workout with it's own emphasis whether it be strength for a lift, hypertrophy for a particular bodypart, or jsut a workout that plays a part in the overall periodization scheme. Can't wait to get on it after I'm done with my current HST routine  Cool
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« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2007, 02:50:03 AM »

i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2007, 03:03:35 AM »

i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go


HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2007, 03:09:33 AM »

HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  Grin Grin

looks to me like bryan haycock didnt leave room for us posting on getbig when he created it!
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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2007, 03:50:20 AM »

looks to me like bryan haycock didnt leave room for us posting on getbig when he created it!

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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2007, 10:57:20 AM »

i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go

the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me Grin) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.

HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  Grin Grin
Sure u did it right  Huh maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.
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« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2007, 11:00:24 AM »

the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me Grin) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.
Sure u did it right  Huh maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

well i just get tired of all those programs that calculate a lot, hst, power factor or whatever, its one week this, one week something else, 60% max 65%max 2% weight increase etc etc
but thats just me
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« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2007, 03:39:26 PM »

the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me Grin) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.
Sure u did it right  Huh maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

My best results from HST came when I cut down the number of excersises, and went to training every other day.

Would do perhaps 4-5 excersises only, and 3 sets. A little unorthodox from HST, but it cut down the time in the gym, also made me pound the weights better.

I would also rotate squats with front squats, and deadlifts with DB rows, benchpresses with close grips and dips, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2007, 01:38:44 AM »


Sure u did it right  Huh maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

I did Cluster-HST which 20 reps.

4 exercises: dips, chin ups, squats and deadlifts.
training three times a week.

i started with 65% and worked up to 90%, clustering my way through which means i started at 1 set 20 reps and ended on 20 sets with 1 rep each at 90%.

Very fucking intense, tell me this wouldn't put you to sleep.  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2007, 11:34:00 PM »

I did Cluster-HST which 20 reps.

4 exercises: dips, chin ups, squats and deadlifts.
training three times a week.

i started with 65% and worked up to 90%, clustering my way through which means i started at 1 set 20 reps and ended on 20 sets with 1 rep each at 90%.

Very fucking intense, tell me this wouldn't put you to sleep.  Grin Grin Grin
LOL! I literally laughed out loud when I read your first post regarding HST  Grin I'm quit unfamiliar with cluster HST, actually this is the second time Im hearing about it really. MOTHERFVCKER 20 sets with 90%, thats your 3 rm done for 20 REPS!! If that shit aint intense I don't know what is.. That would fvckin kill anyone who's any less than insane. How long are u supposed to rest in between reps? (i assume they are done 1 rep at a time?) Do u deadlift every workout? (I imagine this is the most draining part) Does the frequency of the workouts change? And most important of all questions, WERE U ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE FVCKING THING?  Grin LOL

Oh, also if u have a link where i can read up on it that would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2007, 04:07:54 AM »

LOL! I literally laughed out loud when I read your first post regarding HST  Grin I'm quit unfamiliar with cluster HST, actually this is the second time Im hearing about it really. MOTHERFVCKER 20 sets with 90%, thats your 3 rm done for 20 REPS!! If that shit aint intense I don't know what is.. That would fvckin kill anyone who's any less than insane. How long are u supposed to rest in between reps? (i assume they are done 1 rep at a time?) Do u deadlift every workout? (I imagine this is the most draining part) Does the frequency of the workouts change? And most important of all questions, WERE U ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE FVCKING THING?  Grin LOL

Oh, also if u have a link where i can read up on it that would be much appreciated.

Hehe, you're right on everything. Rests between sets is 2-3 minutes. All four exercises are done every workout. Which means, deadlifts and squats every time.

i did it only twice, from 60% to 90%.
90% workouts really last a few hours, because you do 1 rep, rest 2-3 minutes, 1 rep, and so on.
I think at the time i did it i cut down to 15 reps on dips and chin ups, because i simply could not do more. Joints aching on dips and forearms giving up on chinups.  Grin Grin

I want to do it again, but you have to take a vacation to do it.  Grin Grin Grin
At least for the 80-90% part.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2007, 10:48:40 AM »

Hehe, you're right on everything. Rests between sets is 2-3 minutes. All four exercises are done every workout. Which means, deadlifts and squats every time.

i did it only twice, from 60% to 90%.
90% workouts really last a few hours, because you do 1 rep, rest 2-3 minutes, 1 rep, and so on.
I think at the time i did it i cut down to 15 reps on dips and chin ups, because i simply could not do more. Joints aching on dips and forearms giving up on chinups.  Grin Grin

I want to do it again, but you have to take a vacation to do it.  Grin Grin Grin
At least for the 80-90% part.  Grin Grin
haha no way I could do it with school n all, sounds like fun though for a change (given enough time). Maybe you should try keeping with u a BCAA drink + extra carbs to keep u going through the workout  Wink Maybe try a regular HST program next time, which won't take u much more than an hour at a time  Tongue Also if u could post a link to the cluster-HST program  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2007, 03:08:30 AM »

haha no way I could do it with school n all, sounds like fun though for a change (given enough time). Maybe you should try keeping with u a BCAA drink + extra carbs to keep u going through the workout  Wink Maybe try a regular HST program next time, which won't take u much more than an hour at a time  Tongue Also if u could post a link to the cluster-HST program  Roll Eyes

Ah sorry, i forgot about the link.

I read it up on german bb boards, so if you can't speak german i guess you should try bodybuilding.com articles or just google.

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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2007, 02:49:48 PM »

i read an article about arnold at a time he actually trained three (3) times a day  Cool
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« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2007, 12:48:54 PM »

I hit the gym ultra high frequency style. Sometimes I go twice a day. I'm a complete proponent of high volume high frequency. I spent many years listening to studies and bought into the low frequency, recovery time bull crap. Train frequent, eat frequent, sleep frequent. That's the absolute best way to grow.
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« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2007, 05:27:07 PM »

i read an article about arnold at a time he actually trained three (3) times a day  Cool

Yeah, and i read an article that said Ronnie Coleman was natural and got big from 2.2g of Protein per lb of body mass and tons of Broccoli. Wink Wink
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« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2007, 05:42:16 PM »

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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2010, 07:58:00 PM »

the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

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« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2010, 02:19:03 AM »

Nobody reads through the sarcasm?


I train 3 times a day.



He even trains his mandibles (away from the board)
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« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2010, 03:35:28 PM »

Nobody reads through the sarcasm?


I train 3 times a day.



He even trains his mandibles (away from the board)
there is a great need for sarcasm font...

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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2010, 12:46:10 AM »

the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.


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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2010, 08:13:26 AM »

Bluto's work ethic is second to none.
No wonder droves of women are magnetized by his steel buns.
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« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2011, 08:34:29 AM »

the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.
Bluto,

IMHO.....you would progress nicely if you only trained 4-5 times a week.....rest and recovery will give you the results you are seeking.
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