A glaring example....

[DIVISION]

.....of what I was talking about in the Trainer thread.

One of my clients told me about her soon to be ex-husband's premature ejaculation issue which precluded her from achieving orgasm during the tenure of their marriage.

I told her it was a mental block and had nothing to do with her persay, but probably stemmed from his upbrining in a repressive Christian household.

He had been the only man she'd had sex with, so she'd never experienced orgasm and no matter what tips she gave him, nothing worked.

Her response to me......."he tried".....

My response to her........" ".......

I feel bad for men who have neithe the equipment nor ability to please a female, because it should be innate, something you learn along the way.

I shake my head and tell her that she'll need to find a man who is experienced sexually if she ever wants to see what an orgasm is like...........get the feeling she's almost looking to me for that.

A subtle case of transference, but I'm only trying to mentor her, not have sex with her.

The hard part would be telling her no if she makes it clear later she wants sex from me.



DIV

[Always Sore]

There really is no excuse for either men or women not to be good lovers. It's not different that anything else in life, you get out what you put in (No pun intented). There are plenty of websites/books/movies/tv shows/ect to help people in the right direction. If someone is sucky and you take the time to explain what you need and they still are sucky then it's because they don't care enough to do something about it. As a guy it's almost a formula, it's not rocket science. If you are involved with someone it should be something you can talk about and work together to find a way that both parties find satisfaction. Everybody has hang ups and a past or kinky needs, it's how you find solutions that counts.

[Playboy]

The only way to become a good lover is lots and lots of practice. 

[michael arvilla]

Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)

seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)

[The Squadfather]

.....of what I was talking about in the Trainer thread.

One of my clients told me about her soon to be ex-husband's premature ejaculation issue which precluded her from achieving orgasm during the tenure of their marriage.

I told her it was a mental block and had nothing to do with her persay, but probably stemmed from his upbrining in a repressive Christian household.

He had been the only man she'd had sex with, so she'd never experienced orgasm and no matter what tips she gave him, nothing worked.

Her response to me......."he tried".....

My response to her........" ".......

I feel bad for men who have neithe the equipment nor ability to please a female, because it should be innate, something you learn along the way.

I shake my head and tell her that she'll need to find a man who is experienced sexually if she ever wants to see what an orgasm is like...........get the feeling she's almost looking to me for that.

A subtle case of transference, but I'm only trying to mentor her, not have sex with her.

The hard part would be telling her no if she makes it clear later she wants sex from me.



DIV

did she say he was an early shooter or that he never even got it in, Div? what does she look like BTW?

[DIVISION]

Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)

seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)

She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence.  I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people. 

Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view. 

did she say he was an early shooter or that he never even got it in, Div? what does she look like BTW?

He shot his ejaculated early, baby Squads...

She's a petite blond with green eyes.



DIV

[michael arvilla]

She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence.  I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people. 

Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view. 

He shot his load early, baby Squads...

She's a petite blond with green eyes.



DIV

fair enough.................. ...

[knny187]

Why are you talkiing about sex with your clients?!?!? (esp females)

seems a bit un-professional (not a slam on you but if one of my clients brought up sex, i would steer the conversation away from it)

thats what I'm saying....but it doesn't matter if it's during session or afterwords IMO

[DIVISION]

thats what I'm saying....but it doesn't matter if it's during session or afterwords IMO

I'm taking a therapeutic approach to personal training.......

I'm not saying it's for everyone.



DIV

[knny187]

I'm taking a therapeutic approach to personal training.......

I'm not saying it's for everyone.



DIV

 

[The Squadfather]

She brought it up when we were talking during a few no-shows in my schedule, purely by coincidence.  I wasn't training her at the time and I'm not the type of person to NOT talk about things with someone when I'm not training them because we're all people. 

Now if I was training her, I could see your point of view. 

He shot his ejaculated early, baby Squads...

She's a petite blond with green eyes.



DIV

nice, now if she was pale she'd be right uo your alley.

[michael arvilla]

I prefer to keep things professional and businesslike (talking about sex and orgasms and things of this nature with a client, esp a Female client when they are paying me upwards of $75-$90 dollars per hour
just isn't warrented in a business atmosphere)

[The Squadfather]

I prefer to keep things professional and businesslike (talking about sex and orgasms and things of this nature with a client, esp a Female client when they are paying me upwards of $75-$90 dollars per hour
just isn't warrented in a business atmosphere)

with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.

[michael arvilla]

with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.

Thanks Squad! (even i was single  i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)

[The Squadfather]

Thanks Squad! (even i was single  i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)

yeah i hear ya, can only lead to problems, any time a girl you "mess with" knows where you work it's never good.

[24KT]

Thanks Squad! (even i was single  i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)

Exactly!  Never put the p_ _ _ _ in the payroll! As a personal trainer, I see that as purely unprofessional.

[DIVISION]

Thanks Squad! (even i was single  i wouldn't date my clients,that's just bad business)

Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.

Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.

I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.

I think some of you are taking it a bit far.

Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.



DIV

[CQ]

Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.

Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.

I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.

I think some of you are taking it a bit far.

Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.



DIV

DIV, no offense, I am getting the impression you have not been a trainer long. May I ask how long you've been doing it?

[davidpaul]

Well.......I never said I was dating my clients.

Still I will have conversations with them, if they so deem it appropriate.

I'm not the one initiating, so it doesn't fall on me.

I think some of you are taking it a bit far.

Considering my client list, it hasn't been an issue.



DIV

Your a true man amongst men,

have you always had such charm with opposite sex?

Or has proteinfarts helped you grow in this area?

[Laura Lee]

with a girl as pretty as yours at home you've got no reason to be looking Mike.

[knny187]

Well....I can see a liability waiting to happen & the excuse "she brought it up or started the conversation" won't work in a liability case.  That just admits guilt that you did exchange conversations like you suggest.

Remember....it may be ok for her at first...then you do something to piss her off (not realizing it) & she'll use it against you.

[DIVISION]

DIV, no offense, I am getting the impression you have not been a trainer long. May I ask how long you've been doing it?

I've been a PT for a year now......

Many experiences, many clients.......

I'm going to get my NASM, then I'll be set to do whatever I want wherever I want.

Right now I've got the NCCPT.

Well....I can see a liability waiting to happen & the excuse "she brought it up or started the conversation" won't work in a liability case.  That just admits guilt that you did exchange conversations like you suggest.

Remember....it may be ok for her at first...then you do something to piss her off (not realizing it) & she'll use it against you.

I sense your discomfort baby Kenneth.

I know which clients I can have adult conversations with and which ones are better left to shoptalk.

It's not hard to see the difference.



DIV

[knny187]

I've been a PT for a year now......

Many experiences, many clients.......

I'm going to get my NASM, then I'll be set to do whatever I want wherever I want.

Right now I've got the NCCPT.

I sense your discomfort baby Kenneth.

I know which clients I can have adult conversations with and which ones are better left to shoptalk.

It's not hard to see the difference.



DIV

one day you'll be saying to yourself "i shouldn't have done that"














I would have phrased...."one day you'll be telling us"...but I know you better than that.

[Deedee]

Many people are lonely and engage PT's for company, especially older men. The actual training is secondary.

I fail to see why her husband's over-abundance of enthusiasm would ruin her bliss "over the tenure of their marriage." I'm guessing that's longer than six weeks.  She must not be very creative, or is just very passive.  But anyway, that's beside the point.  It's pretty crappy to talk badly about your husband behind his back to some guy at the gym, even if you're shopping around.   

[knny187]

It's pretty crappy to talk badly about your husband behind his back to some guy at the gym, even if you're shopping around.   

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