ive come to a point of realization. if want to look ripped it has nothing to do with diet, but everything to do with water. i had a bad spider bite on my arm the other day i didnt train and didnt drink much i quickly dropped 20 pounds over 2 days! and look better than i have in a while and ate normal-high calories. but the next day i started back training i put back on 10 pounds and look smooth as fuck and then 10 pounds the next day i looked thicker but smoother. so yeah bodybuilding is about being lighter without water