Cop Uses Taser on Man Holding His Newborn Baby

[kh300]

KH, I'm truly not surprised you have an electrified fence for your puppy.  ...really, I'm not.

oh ya.. its much better to keep the dog locked up on a chain, as opposed to allowing him to run around wherever he likes. only a girl like you would appose an invisible fence

[kh300]

some of you are fools...  you don't taser a man with a baby, it could easily kill the baby.  Reading some real dumb shit in this thread, what if he had a bomb but but but what if...

do you know what happend before this video? no you dont.. how do you watch a clip and act like you know what went down...

like i said, the cop could have used bad judgment, or he could have been a hero. but you cant tell from that video..

the guy could have said, if you dont let me go ill hurt the baby..

read what you just said,,"but but what if".. so how do you know the answer then?

[drkaje]

I know a few people with those collar/fence systems for their dogs. Once the dogs know the boundaries there aren't any problems. If I liked animals, having one be able to run free on my property would be much better than a short chain or run. Their only consistent complaint was that the electric fence won't keep strays or pets of the irresponsible out of their yards.

An old neighbor's dog had tired of their yard and loved our nice fresh grass. Fortunately Home Depot sells a yard spray that solved the problem.

[Hugo Chavez]

do you know what happend before this video? no you dont.. how do you watch a clip and act like you know what went down...

like i said, the cop could have used bad judgment, or he could have been a hero. but you cant tell from that video..

the guy could have said, if you dont let me go ill hurt the baby..

read what you just said,,"but but what if".. so how do you know the answer then?

Whatever barney

[ieffinhatecardio]

It's ridiculous that there isn't any situation where some of you feel personal responsibility applies to the 'victim'.

Didn't see where the security guard knew he was the baby daddy, LOL! Either way, five minutes to sign the baby out AMA or carp to a social worker and the entire situation could have been avoided.

Maybe they should have just called the cops and let him try leaving with the baby. That would have likely escalated things to an even greater level of danger.

More blathering nonsense.

The number one priority in this instance is the safety of the infant. That trumps everything else. I'd love to hear you argue "what if's" on that one.

They knew who he was, they knew where he lived, they knew what he looked like. Did you actually read the news piece or did you just watch the video?

This should have been handled differently and in a manner that didn't put the infant in danger.

The fact that anyone wants to debate that is laughable.

do you know what happend before this video? no you dont.. how do you watch a clip and act like you know what went down...

like i said, the cop could have used bad judgment, or he could have been a hero. but you cant tell from that video..

the guy could have said, if you dont let me go ill hurt the baby..

read what you just said,,"but but what if".. so how do you know the answer then?

Please tell me exactly where you are a police officer so that I can never visit that city. I'm guessing the entrance exam needs to be revamped.

[drkaje]

More blathering nonsense.

The number one priority in this instance is the safety of the infant. That trumps everything else. I'd love to hear you argue "what if's" on that one.

They knew who he was, they knew where he lived, they knew what he looked like. Did you actually read the news piece or did you just watch the video?

This should have been handled differently and in a manner that didn't put the infant in danger.

The fact that anyone wants to debate that is laughable.

Please tell me exactly where you are a police officer so that I can never visit that city. I'm guessing the entrance exam needs to be revamped.

Interesting. You say the number one priority is the infant's safety, yet are saying the iritated father should have been able to whisk the newborn away.

Could it possibly been handled in another manner? Yes. Would I have tasered him, depends on the situation. If I had no idea he was the father, yes. If the guy was acting erratic, yes. If I could't afford get fired, yes. If I was told by someone who could be held responsible for whatever happened to the child (good or bad), no.

Very few people placed in that poition would have taken the chance of letting the guy leave like that. It sucks that the baby was injured but the father could have just signed out the baby/wife AMA and not been tasered.

[24KT]

Interesting. You say the number one priority is the infant's safety, yet are saying the iritated father should have been able to whisk the newborn away.

Could it possibly been handled in another manner? Yes. Would I have tasered him, depends on the situation. If I had no idea he was the father, yes. If the guy was acting erratic, yes. If I could't afford get fired, yes. If I was told by someone who could be held responsible for whatever happened to the child (good or bad), no.

Very few people placed in that poition would have taken the chance of letting the guy leave like that. It sucks that the baby was injured but the father could have just signed out the baby/wife AMA and not been tasered.

Jake,
he couldn't have whisked the baby away. That guy wasn't going anywhere.
The baby's wristband prevented the elevator from working.

[tu_holmes]

It's ridiculous that there isn't any situation where some of you feel personal responsibility applies to the 'victim'.

Didn't see where the security guard knew he was the baby daddy, LOL! Either way, five minutes to sign the baby out AMA or carp to a social worker and the entire situation could have been avoided.

Maybe they should have just called the cops and let him try leaving with the baby. That would have likely escalated things to an even greater level of danger.

My question is this to all of the people who feel the "cop" put the baby's life in jeopardy.

Who put it in jeopardy first? Looks to me like it was Dad.

It was dad who refused to fill out the proper release forms... refused to follow proper procedure and protocol and put the baby in jeopardy.

I'm a father... I think this whole thing sucks... really... and I think the security schmucko was wrong... BUT you  can't put it all on him... You have to blame dad for starting some stupid shit in the first place.

If my child wasn't receiving the treatment I thought he or she deserved, I would speak with the Drs... go through the process to get the baby moved to another hospital (It's not hard) or fill out the proper discharge papers. (Nothing can make anyone stay in a hospital if you don't want to... NOTHING [unless you're crazy])

So is the cop at fault... sure, but why is no one looking at Dad and saying "You're a FUCKING DOUCHE and YOU endangered that baby".

This shit was cause and effect... Dad caused some shit to pop off and the effect was dad and baby got tasered... How about we call a duck a duck on this one.

[24KT]

My question is this to all of the people who feel the "cop" put the baby's life in jeopardy.

Who put it in jeopardy first? Looks to me like it was Dad.

It was dad who refused to fill out the proper release forms... refused to follow proper procedure and protocol and put the baby in jeopardy.

I'm a father... I think this whole thing sucks... really... and I think the security schmucko was wrong... BUT you  can't put it all on him... You have to blame dad for starting some stupid shit in the first place.

If my child wasn't receiving the treatment I thought he or she deserved, I would speak with the Drs... go through the process to get the baby moved to another hospital (It's not hard) or fill out the proper discharge papers. (Nothing can make anyone stay in a hospital if you don't want to... NOTHING [unless you're crazy])

...or tasered by a trigger happy cop with poor judgement.   

So is the cop at fault... sure, but why is no one looking at Dad and saying "You're a FUCKING DOUCHE and YOU endangered that baby".

This shit was cause and effect... Dad caused some shit to pop off and the effect was dad and baby got tasered... How about we call a duck a duck on this one.

We could go all the way back to the doctors who mistreated the couple causing them to want to leave. We could even go so far back as blaming the doctors parents for not using birthcontrol and bringing the doctor into the world etc...

The bottom line is those who are authorized to use force on the public need to have some proper judgement to go with that authorization to use force. Who the fvck in their right mind tases a man with a baby in his arms?

[tu_holmes]

...or tasered by a trigger happy cop with poor judgement.  

We could go all the way back to the doctors who mistreated the couple causing them to want to leave. We could even go so far back as blaming the doctors parents for not using birthcontrol and bringing the doctor into the world etc...

The bottom line is those who are authorized to use force on the public need to have some proper judgement to go with that authorization to use force. Who the fvck in their right mind tases a man with a baby in his arms?

The bottom line is that when you're a parent, you are ALSO authorized to use force... on your kids, and you need to understand that you are responsible for them and your actions have consequences.

Who the fuck thinks it's ok to just run out of a hospital with a kid in your arm?

Jag... I understand where you're coming from, but if you think that dad is totally not at fault... you're loco.

[drkaje]

Jake,
he couldn't have whisked the baby away. That guy wasn't going anywhere.
The baby's wristband prevented the elevator from working.

Hospitals have stairs in America.

[24KT]

Hospitals have stairs in America.

They also have stoooopid trigger happy cops with tasers. 

[tu_holmes]

They also have stoooopid trigger happy cops with tasers. 

I guess those trigger happy cops in other countries with guns are so much better...

[24KT]

I guess those trigger happy cops in other countries with guns are so much better...

I can't think of a country with more guns and more trigger happy cops than the USA, ...can you?

[tu_holmes]

I can't think of a country with more guns and more trigger happy cops than the USA, ...can you?

China maybe?

[drkaje]

They also have stoooopid trigger happy cops with tasers. 

The kid was injured due to the father's retardedness.

I hope the taser hit the testicles so someone that stupid and irresponsible can't make more babies.

Considering the father's intellect... the developmental delay might be due to an extra chromosome.

Due to relatively rare SIDS case New York ended up with a 48 hour, hospital stay, rule for newborns. Some insurance companies will not pay for a healthy baby to remain in the hospital the second day. No idea what checking an infant out before that time would entail but it's 100% certain you and a gaggle of other hippies would say the father still would have a right to sue the doctor if there was a complication. It would either be the doctor's fault for not properly explaining the risks, the hospitals fault for hiring crabby nurses or the security guards fault for letting him go.

In your paradigm, these people never have any responsibility. Kind of funny considering you think the majority of poor people are that way due to laziness.

The guy is a retard and he got what retards get. Sucks if the baby was injured but retards are infamous for having collateral damage. Drunken drivers do the same thing to other passengers, people on the road and property.

[kh300]

Please tell me exactly where you are a police officer so that I can never visit that city. I'm guessing the entrance exam needs to be revamped.

30,000 feet in the air.. with tazer in hand

[24KT]

The kid was injured due to the father's retardedness.

I hope the taser hit the testicles so someone that stupid and irresponsible can't make more babies.

Considering the father's intellect... the developmental delay might be due to an extra chromosome.

It was a baby girl. Only baby boys end up with the extra chromosome. Evolutions weeds out the idiots that way.

Due to relatively rare SIDS case New York ended up with a 48 hour, hospital stay, rule for newborns. Some insurance companies will not pay for a healthy baby to remain in the hospital the second day. No idea what checking an infant out before that time would entail but it's 100% certain you and a gaggle of other hippies would say the father still would have a right to sue the doctor if there was a complication. It would either be the doctor's fault for not properly explaining the risks, the hospitals fault for hiring crabby nurses or the security guards fault for letting him go.

In your paradigm, these people never have any responsibility. Kind of funny considering you think the majority of poor people are that way due to laziness.

In my paradigmn you don't taser a man with a newborn in his arms.

The guy is a retard and he got what retards get. Sucks if the baby was injured but retards are infamous for having collateral damage. Drunken drivers do the same thing to other passengers, people on the road and property.

The "collateral damage" as you call it is committed by the person doing the shooting.
You can argue it six ways from Sunday, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out you don't harm the very person you're supposed to be seeking to protect.  That's like saying... there is a man inside a house yelling at a woman. You're afraid for the safety of this woman because he might be a domestic batterer... so in your wisdom, you dynamite the house. That ought to shut the guy up. The fact that the woman get's blown up too... well that's just collateral damage caused by the loudmouth who shouldn't have spouted off to begin with. 

I'm beginning to think you might have been dropped on your head shortly after birth as well.

Bottom line: You're an idiot to taser a man holding a newborn baby!

[tu_holmes]

Bottom line: You're an idiot to taser a man holding a newborn baby!

Bottom Line... you're an idiot if you think you can just leave a maternity ward with a baby under your arm without proper discharge paperwork?

What part of THAT do you not get?

I love how you're saying this guy (cop) is an idiot... but Dad has to take NO responsibility.

[24KT]

Bottom Line... you're an idiot if you think you can just leave a maternity ward with a baby under your arm without proper discharge paperwork?

What part of THAT do you not get?

I love how you're saying this guy (cop) is an idiot... but Dad has to take NO responsibility.

I "GET" that there is paperwork involved, ...however, that guy wasn't going anywhere,
...despite how much he wanted to. What that cop did was put the baby in danger that she previously was not in.

What part about that, do you not get?

[Al-Gebra]

I "GET" that there is paperwork involved, ...however, that guy wasn't going anywhere,
...despite how much he wanted to. What that cop did was put the baby in danger that she previously was not in.

What part about that, do you not get?

jag, you would have made a wonderful mom . . .














. . . too bad that boat sailed a while ago.

[drkaje]

It was a baby girl. Only baby boys end up with the extra chromosome. Evolutions weeds out the idiots that way.

In my paradigmn you don't taser a man with a newborn in his arms.

The "collateral damage" as you call it is committed by the person doing the shooting.
You can argue it six ways from Sunday, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out you don't harm the very person you're supposed to be seeking to protect.  That's like saying... there is a man inside a house yelling at a woman. You're afraid for the safety of this woman because he might be a domestic batterer... so in your wisdom, you dynamite the house. That ought to shut the guy up. The fact that the woman get's blown up too... well that's just collateral damage caused by the loudmouth who shouldn't have spouted off to begin with. 

I'm beginning to think you might have been dropped on your head shortly after birth as well.

Bottom line: You're an idiot to taser a man holding a newborn baby!

Maybe she is missing a chromosome.

Either way, maybe the father will act more responsibly next time.

[24KT]

Maybe she is missing a chromosome.

Maybe her delicate little infant brain got rattled severely when she was dropped on her head!

Either way, maybe the father will act more responsibly next time.

Hopefully the idiot trigger happy cop will come to understand you don't taser a man holding a newborn baby!

[benz]

Why do you insist on this topic? The guy didnt die, the baby didnt die, so what?

He just got tasered because he thought it was cool to not take orders, it wasnt his house, so yeah he got what he deserved.

The guard should have tasered the baby aswel to show him how rude is this world lol

[benchmstr]

I just think enough is enough. Taser happy cops are running amok.
I just saw on the news the other day that a Florida cop tasered a 15 yr old girl in handcuffs.

How can anyone in any circumstances justify a 200lb. cop tasering a little schoolgirl?

she wasn't in handcuffs,she had a knife to her own throat in the principles office.stop believing whatever you hear on the news

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