150 GRAMS OF BCAA'S A DAY ON MILOS' PROGRAM =

[natural al]

I don't believe the average person needs more than 1.5 grams per pound.....

[The True Adonis]

I don't believe the average person needs more than 1.5 grams per pound.....

You sure used to subscribe to such a hare-brained theory when you were DCing it.

[G o a t b o y]

very expensive diahhrea, discuss.

Are you suggesting that Sanke Oil^TM is not the most anabolic substance on earth? 

[swilkins1984]

I've always believed that 1g/ LBM is fine if your carbs are moderate but upping to 1.5/LBM if your carbs are low as carbs spare protein breakdown. You are feeding your muscle mass not inactive stored fat.

[Dragon]

150g BCAA !!
maybe its spaced out something like  morning cardio:15g
                                                  before/during/after morning weight training: 15/15/15g
                                                  evening cardio:15g
                                                  before/during/after evening weight training: 15/15/15g   
                                                  before bedtime:15g
                                                  after sex:15g   
                           total = 150g  !!! 
 
 

[Van_Bilderass]

A steroid using bodybuilder might in fact need LESS protein for optimal growth. A steroid using bb recycles protein more efficiently.

[garraeth]

very expensive diahhrea, discuss.

Seriously, check your info before posting. It's like 36g (~12 pre + ~12 during + ~12 post). And it's not BCAA's.

Pre: http://koloseum.com//store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=2&iNum=1
During: http://koloseum.com/store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=3&iNum=1
Post: http://koloseum.com/store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=4&iNum=1

Do you guys even confirm stuff like this for youselves?

[affy]

A steroid using bodybuilder might in fact need LESS protein for optimal growth. A steroid using bb recycles protein more efficiently.

hahaha that is by far the most retarded statement i've ever heard...and i was a member of bb.com for 5 years

[Cleanest Natural]

hahahahaa, 10 sets of arms supersets and then go to the gym refridgerator for a 10 gallon bucket of BCAA, Glutamine, Creatine, Anadrol, Insulin, GH, Nubain, Oxycontin, Viagra, Whey, Noxplode, etc., followed closely by chubby moonface and cellulite.

   KINDA LIKE YOURSELF 

[Zach Trowbridge]

You sure used to subscribe to such a hare-brained theory when you were DCing it.

As I recall you've started numerous discussions advocating the "a calorie is a calorie" theory, so based on that concept at its purest, one could consume 2 or 3 grams of protein per lb per day as long as carb and fat grams aren't high enough to induce a caloric surplus.

Besides, like somebody said, as long as your kidneys are already healthy and you're drinking a gallon of water a day, there aren't much in the way of proven side effects of "protein overdose", at least I've never been able to find a study that proved it.  If anybody knows of one though I'm all ears.

[Van_Bilderass]

hahaha that is by far the most retarded statement i've ever heard...and i was a member of bb.com for 5 years

We recently reported that 5 days of oxandrolone administration increased skeletal muscle anabolism by stimulation of protein synthesis, because protein breakdown was unchanged (15). Also, we reported a significant decrease in outward amino acid transport (FV,M), along with a calculated increase in protein synthetic efficiency, together indicating increased intracellular reutilization of amino acid

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/278/2/E273

Read that a few times. When you are ON amino acids are utilized more efficiently, less goes to "waste".

[natural al]

You sure used to subscribe to such a hare-brained theory when you were DCing it.

no, I've never taken in anymore than 1.5 at the absolue most at anytime and even that would be pushing it.  I believe protien consumption is important but I'm not the kind of guy who's gonna sit up all day and worry about it either.  I still train DC and enjoy it, I still eat about 1.0-1.25 grams a day per pound....nothing has changed...go back and reread things, never said anything more was needed..BUT if someone wanted to go fo 2.0 fine, go for it.  See what happens, if it works more power to ya, if not that's great as well...why would it matter to me?

[slaveboy1980]

very expensive diahhrea, discuss.

the usual milos scam.

trying to sell more of his bs supplements.

500g p a day...ohh brother.

150g BCAA 

once again ill have a steak with some rice thanks.

[slaveboy1980]

around 1g protein/lbs bw /day is enough...maybe slightly more if your dieting (1.25)

if people learn the basics then scam artists like milos wont be able to spread all the bs lies.

also if a natural starts using milos super isolation superset giant drop sets shit training he will make zero gains.

use a simple 3 day training routine and focus on the basics.

all this hocus pocus does is taking away focus from what really counts:

-1g protein/lbs bw /day

-250-500 calories more than daily maintainence

-lifting progressively heavier weights in the bacis compound exercises

-getting adequate rest

-lifting for years (consistency)

[Zach Trowbridge]

around 1g protein/lbs bw /day is enough...maybe slightly more if your dieting (1.25)

if people learn the basics then scam artists like milos wont be able to spread all the bs lies.

also if a natural starts using milos super isolation superset giant drop sets shit training he will make zero gains.

use a simple 3 day training routine and focus on the basics.

all this hocus pocus does is taking away focus from what really counts:

-1g protein/lbs bw /day

-250-500 calories more than daily maintainence

-lifting progressively heavier weights in the bacis compound exercises

-getting adequate rest

-lifting for years (consistency)

You forgot one:

-$6,000/month line of credit with Muscletech Direct to your Door

[slaveboy1980]

You forgot one:

-$6,000/month line of credit with Muscletech Direct to your Door

haha the idiots dont realize you cant buy hard work. (when you gotta do it yourself)

[Markoni]

Poliquin says  0.44g per kg of bodyweight

[Van_Bilderass]

Poliquin says  0.44g per kg of bodyweight

Poliquin is insane. Milos is tight with that guy, says Poliquin is one of the greatest trainers around. I remember where Poliquin has recommended something like 50-100 grams of BCAAs during training and 100 grams of glutamine after, and shit like that.

Of course, Poliquin also believes you can put on 20lbs of muscle just by taking out your tooth fillings and dropping from 8% bodyfat to 2% in a couple of days by taking vitamin C intravenously.

Easy to see how Milos was influenced by him.

[Markoni]

Poliquin is insane. Milos is tight with that guy, says Poliquin is one of the greatest trainers around. I remember where Poliquin has recommended something like 50-100 grams of BCAAs during training and 100 grams of glutamine after, and shit like that.

Of course, Poliquin also believes you can put on 20lbs of muscle just by taking out your tooth fillings and dropping from 8% bodyfat to 2% in a couple of days by taking vitamin C intravenously.

Easy to see how Milos was influenced by him.

never read where Poliquin recommends that much BCAA
http://www.charlespoliquin.com/members/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=262
this BCAA protocol looks good

Milos and Poliquin are doing seminars together , Milos nutrition part , Poliquin training part

[Van_Bilderass]

never read where Poliquin recommends that much BCAA
http://www.charlespoliquin.com/members/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=262
this BCAA protocol looks good

Milos and Poliquin are doing seminars together , Milos nutrition part , Poliquin training part

His recommendations have been all over the place, but always megadoses.

From your link, the typical Poliquin BS:

For example, if you weigh 90 kilograms (198 lbs), take 40 grams of branch chain amino acids. If you are on a restricted budget, use at least 20 grams. Otherwise, don’t bother. Using this type of dosage, it is not uncommon for some of my clients to gain 9 lbs of lean body mass in just 3 weeks using this protocol.

What a scam artist.

[Old-Skool]

...didnt help MIlos arms any.....

[slaveboy1980]

His recommendations have been all over the place, but always megadoses.

From your link, the typical Poliquin BS:

What a scam artist.

exactly. poliquin is another bullshitter.

to be honest im not even sure if its theoretically possible to add 9lbs of muscle in three weeks. (even if using aas, gh and god knows what).. (not talking about regaining muscle)

[Croatch]

Yes.

47" chest...BOOM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAWkIMgd3o
Each one is pretty much twice the size of her head, perfect!

[slaveboy1980]

47" chest...BOOM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAWkIMgd3o
Each one is pretty much twice the size of her head, perfect!

chop off her titties and sew em on her back.

[whateva]

around 1g protein/lbs bw /day is enough...maybe slightly more if your dieting (1.25)

if people learn the basics then scam artists like milos wont be able to spread all the bs lies.

also if a natural starts using milos super isolation superset giant drop sets shit training he will make zero gains.

use a simple 3 day training routine and focus on the basics.

all this hocus pocus does is taking away focus from what really counts:

-1g protein/lbs bw /day

-250-500 calories more than daily maintainence

-lifting progressively heavier weights in the bacis compound exercises

-getting adequate rest

-lifting for years (consistency)

I totally agree, Slaveboy ;