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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #800 on: December 04, 2007, 08:51:53 PM »
Just for the record, the so-called "Phoenix Lights" were actually a formation of Chinese paper kite-lanterns... it is traditional in China to make these small hot-air-balloon type lanterns at certain times of year and release them into the atmosphere (they float in still air once the wick is lit). The very slow moving formation of lights was actually a fleet of these lanterns... that's why it didn't show up on radar.

The night of the Pheonix Lights coincided with a Chinese celebration of some kind (Chinese New Year or something like that). The curvilinear formation (only a V from certain vantage points, a curve from beneath) was the result of simple wind currents... that's why the formation moved at the slow drift speed of the wind that night.

There's lots of video of these lights drifting along in formation shot by amazed citizens... sadly the UFO nuts don't concentrate on the video of these glowing balls suddenly catching fire and dropping to the earth, nor the video of the formation breaking up, nor the video of the "lights" flickering before dying out.

Just for the record...



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I'n not trying to get in the middle of this but Luke do you honestly believe the shit you just spewed?

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #801 on: December 04, 2007, 09:03:20 PM »
gh15 is naive. Nuff said.

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« Reply #802 on: December 04, 2007, 09:14:58 PM »
The internet is an open system. If any evidence exists it should show up here. Since even gh15 confirms there is no authentic evidence on line then we are back to conspiracy theories again which are nothing more than excuses. In the absence of real evidence the informed person suspends any belief in extraterrestrials having visited earth. Then again, countless simpletons believe in Tarot cards, astrology, religion and all manner of nonsense.

Sometimes you see things that can't be true. Eg., Chris Angel doing amazing things on TV. Can this guy actually walk down the outside of a building? He has to obey the laws of physics like everyone else. Therefore, the task is to wonder how he achieved those illusions. That we cannot figure things out does not mean he has supernatural powers.

In another thread gh15 confessed he fancies 220 pound women. That is at least believable!


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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #803 on: December 04, 2007, 09:38:14 PM »
Gh15 ... I'm not really sure why your still Entertaining some of these idiots ( SMALL-MINDED idiots at that ... got to love the Universities  :P ) ... oh, well.  :-\


Great Thread, anyways ! Warrior also seems to know His / Her shit as well !  :)

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #804 on: December 04, 2007, 09:45:32 PM »
gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!

No he isn't.
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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #805 on: December 04, 2007, 10:09:29 PM »
It is one thing to believe in alien spaceships and quite another to examine the evidence re these phenomena.

If we were to examine all the photographs and videos of the Phoenix lights then it hardly reveals any craft at all. Just an arrangements of lights.

If you subscribe to UFO sites then they like to keep the flame lit and add this event to the list of UFOs. If you go to skeptic sites you hear something much more reasonable.


http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4041

I recall that some pranksters in Kamloops BC did the flame balloon thing about 50 years ago and many residents insisted it was a UFO. The 'craft' was lit by a candle that caused it to rise and then hover and drift and finally disappear. It seems anecdotal reports vary and usually, for night phenomena, are not very accurate.


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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #806 on: December 04, 2007, 10:18:39 PM »
"Hi!  I'm on 12 IU/day of fake GH I bought from gh15!"

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #807 on: December 04, 2007, 10:43:40 PM »
Just for the record, the so-called "Phoenix Lights" were actually a formation of Chinese paper kite-lanterns... it is traditional in China to make these small hot-air-balloon type lanterns at certain times of year and release them into the atmosphere (they float in still air once the wick is lit). The very slow moving formation of lights was actually a fleet of these lanterns... that's why it didn't show up on radar.

The night of the Pheonix Lights coincided with a Chinese celebration of some kind (Chinese New Year or something like that). The curvilinear formation (only a V from certain vantage points, a curve from beneath) was the result of simple wind currents... that's why the formation moved at the slow drift speed of the wind that night.

There's lots of video of these lights drifting along in formation shot by amazed citizens... sadly the UFO nuts don't concentrate on the video of these glowing balls suddenly catching fire and dropping to the earth, nor the video of the formation breaking up, nor the video of the "lights" flickering before dying out.

Just for the record...



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I thought they were flares, dropped by a National Guard plane, on a training mission.
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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #808 on: December 04, 2007, 11:29:23 PM »
gh15 is naive. Nuff said.

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what thehell is that? you show me weather baloons?? comon now,,you show me kites and weather balloons that look nothing like anything talked about in this thread,,im tellin you hear that f16 and f15 in addition to f117 a and blackbirds combat and surveliance pilots are in regular contact and trying to intercept those vehicles and fail each time...pilots with over 10k hours of combat flights and flight testing of highest level aircraft operatable by humans and you show me a fuckin weather baloons and kites?  a 10 year old could tell the difference
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« Reply #809 on: December 04, 2007, 11:44:35 PM »
I am not going to attempt to preach to the converted. Either you are a believer or you are not. The evidence is always conveniently out of reach and that sustains the poor souls who must believe in something outside of human experience. Darwin explained species and later scientists agree. Religion should have died as well but it remains because there are billions of individuals who have to believe in something.

What worries me is the support gh15 gets from the flotsam when he has no evidence that his advice is sound. Previously, Dan Duchaine was the steroid guru and in the void since his demise arise a few underground 'experts' of nothing except bullshitting. This thread confirms that gh15 is a sloppy thinker and no philosopher of any standing. He is devoid of scientific discipline and defaults to beliefs in the supernatural and beings from outer space.

The idea that extraterrestrials impregnated primitive humans is bizarre beyond foolish. This thread should be put in the garbage section of Getbig.

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #810 on: December 05, 2007, 01:43:25 AM »
"Hi!  I'm on 12 IU/day of fake GH I bought from gh15!"




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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #811 on: December 05, 2007, 01:57:14 AM »
How come all the greys and reptillians look like swimmers?  Are any of these humanoids permabulkers?

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #812 on: December 05, 2007, 02:48:23 AM »
To sum up the world will end at 2012. ok?

So, lets everyone go and take millions of loans, gh15 and daddywaddy will you stood surety for our loans?  ::) ::) ::) The "end" is near then why wouldn't we enjoy life and screw all?

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« Reply #813 on: December 05, 2007, 03:03:58 AM »
"Hi!  I'm on 12 IU/day of fake GH I bought from gh15!"
Of course, gh15 is Palumbo!

He's not entirely human & neither are his customers.

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #814 on: December 05, 2007, 06:28:00 AM »
Of course, gh15 is Palumbo!

He's not entirely human & neither are his customers.
If u would be smart enugh to read between the lines you would realise not only that he' isn't Palumbo , but that he is a pro that both looks good , and is one of the stronger pro's in the olympia line up .

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #815 on: December 05, 2007, 07:28:33 AM »
You see Vince, here is how I see things.  You are not a healthy skeptic such as myself, you are a debunker.  Any event that threatens your perceived sense of reality must be false and you will go to any length to convince yourself, even reading a one page article on a website written by people who share the same qualities as you do and be sold.  And I am gullible?  How one can completely ignore evidence and make an opinion based on attending to their own personal beliefs and surrender their ability to critically analyze a situation is beyond me.  I know this by your tone of discussion, you talk in a condescending way and use terms such as gullible and "ufo nut."  You realize that many people such as myself who look into such matters are highly credible educated people involved in science and embrace the scientific method of analysis?  It is apparent that no matter how much proof is presented to you, you will not change your mind. 

But I will bite and talk about the flare argument.  The shapes of most flares used by the US military will often have a vertical component greater than its horizontal.  These lights clearly did not demonstrate this pattern.  Flares are usually dropped by a helicopter or airplane, and as far as I know there were no other reports of identifiable flying objects in the air hence why I remain skeptical of gh15’s claim that they sent f-15’s to intercept it.  Many of the anecdotes claimed that the lights were hovering for quite some time.  Several observers saw them relatively close up.  Flares are never static and are usually viewed to be descending in a diagonal decent due to gravity and wind factors.  From a distance flares can give the illusion of being static but many people saw them from a relatively close distance and claimed they did not display a descending pattern.  I know anecdotes are not a good way to establish fact, but I do consider claims from educated people who show credibility valuable.  Most flares burn for 4-6 minutes based on the information I have seen.  Many of the lights observed lasted for ALOT longer.  Analysis of camera optics shows most flares used by the military to emit light in the red to white area of the visible spectrum.  The lights in the video were analyzed and the findings were not consistent with light emitted by flares.  However I judge the credibility of results from the analysis of light emitted by these lights.    Flares are not a plausible explanation for the lights observed that night. 

There are many more arguments but I have to go and study now, cya   

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #816 on: December 05, 2007, 08:01:38 AM »
Virtually the whole scientific community debunks UFO = aliens. There is no proof that I have seen or heard of. Just secret stuff that no one outside the military and some secret services are supposed to be privy to. The astronomers don't say anything, either. I just cannot accept that the whole world is keeping hush about an event that would be sensational.

There have always been questions about phenomena. Until men asked the right questions there were no explanations. Inventing gods or even aliens is hardly an explanation. Sometimes we can't have answers. Instead of then suggesting that something from outside is responsible we should keep looking for explanations.

I could care less what explains all those lights above Phoenix in 97. There was no spaceship there. To believe something preposterous like that is just crazy. Once you entertain that aliens are here is there anything that you won't believe? Show me the evidence and make a believer out of me. Until then we should all refrain from those silly accounts promoted by all manner of people devoid of much discipline or sense.

What is condescending to me is the nonsense presented here as proof.

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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #817 on: December 05, 2007, 08:32:36 AM »
I'n not trying to get in the middle of this but Luke do you honestly believe the shit you just spewed?

...consider the fact that gh15 claims SR-71 Blackbirds were scrambled to intercept the formation. The SR-71 Blackbird has been in mothballs since long before 1997.

gh15 claims the fighter planes scrambled to intercept the formation couldn't get missile lock. Well to my knowledge, no fighters were ever sent to intercept the lights... if they had they would have been filmed by all the amateur cameramen that videoed every second of the phenomenon.

gh15 claims that the air force lost a fighter plane chasing down the formation... no planes or pilots were ever reported missing.

gh15 claims the formation was somehow transdimensional... well the same thing was claimed of Bigfoot when researchers calculated the weight via footprint depths and got a value of nearly three tonnes. Of course, the serious researchers realised the calculations were faulty... but some reckoned that such weights "proved" the footprints were made by a creature transitioning between dimensions; and if he's transitioning between dimensions then he must be an alien... or at least the ghost of an alien.

Many people pointed out that the lantern kites should have been visible from takeoff, not appearing at altitude... it's a good point. But these hoaxes have been going on for years, and there are message groups where these guys exchange techniques and recruit accomplices (just like the crop-circlers), the explanation for the sudden appearance of the lights is not so otherworldly:
-place a window of transparent material in a lantern kite made of dark material
-balance a hood of black crepe paper on the lantern kite, the kite is pretty much invisible at night... till it hits a thermal current higher up in the atmosphere and the crepe paper blows off ("UFO appears over city")
-adding sulphur; magnesium or strontium powder to the candle can make the "UFO" change colours

Seriously guys, take a good look at this site...   http://www.overflite.com/


Is it really more likely that an interdimensional craft visited Phoenix?


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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #818 on: December 05, 2007, 08:52:44 AM »
All this talk about aliens and superior beings from another planet is ultimately dangerous. Believing in superior aliens only enforces the belief that we are inferior and primitive and thus we devalue our selves and worst of all our planet. It is the same with people believing in heaven and its utopian existence and that only a few people get will get in and life here is just some version of hell.....Bullshit.

All of these things are believed without proof and the results are disastrous for all people.

Religious nuts suicide bombing because they believe they are going to heaven. Companies destroying our earth and creatures, hell why not they go to church on Sunday they're going to heaven. Nut heads thinking that there is some StarTreck planet out there better than ours and they will some day be whisked off to it and live happily ever after.

You really think there is a more beautiful planet out there than our earth. Or anything more beautiful than the human heart and its ability to express compassion outside itself and even to earths smallest creatures. Or using our intellect to help those less fortunate than ourselves and make life better for all. Let’s see those dumb ass aliens do that. . Do you think they have accomplished what we have in the arts...bullshit.

Earth is not some temporary vehicle to be disposed of later, there will never be a day when we will be given the secrets of the universe and all will be better, there will never be a day when we get swept off to a more beautiful planet. And say ta ta to this one.

Take care of our planet and love each other. Not aliens not religious figures.

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« Reply #819 on: December 05, 2007, 09:33:45 AM »
This thread confirms that gh15 is a sloppy thinker and no philosopher of any standing. He is devoid of scientific discipline and defaults to beliefs in the supernatural and beings from outer space.

Do you consider yourself a philosopher? Did you use science when you came up with your DOMS theory (which has yet to even be defined by you)?

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« Reply #820 on: December 05, 2007, 10:09:54 AM »
what you saw in 1997 was a v formation not v shaped,,it was one of the only times in recent history that a formation so big passed over earth sky,,it was bunch of sphere behicles coming together and passing very slow very close very low for as many people as possible to see,,it was what in a science fiction movie you will call mother ship?,,in reality its exactly like our human made space station only built from a number of what you call ufo spheres and put in formation

the navy and airforce tried to intercept it as in shooting it down ,,but there was nothing to fire becauawe weapen failed,,i do know that few fighter pilots of us did get close to it and according to what i know we lost that night 1 us fighter pilot out of the 8 that went to intercept it,,only 7 came back one crushed into the desert and reported dead in military exercise couple days llater

the military did nto shoot even one single craft,,they did try ,,the crafts are not man made and the number we have are as result of self crushing due to failures within the craft systems   of operating via the earth atmosphere,,never from our aircraft

Why would they try to shoot them down? for what purpose?
An ufo crashing in the middle of Arizona city would be kinda hard to cover up...
An aggressive act towards the ufos, wouldn't that upset them? UFO REVENGE >:(

Seriously... if (successfully) attacked, wouldn't they 'shoot back' ?
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« Reply #821 on: December 05, 2007, 02:57:57 PM »
It is easy to be a philosopher because there are several definitions. Being a good philosopher is quite another thing. I am not a professional one but I have studied ethics, ancient philosophy, and the philosophy of science. There is a language and way of communicating that is philosophical. There are several on this board who can write philosophically. gh15 is not one of them. That is simply an opinion of mine and like all opinions can be mistaken.

Who else on Getbig has come up with an original theory to explain hypertrophy and the lack of it in trainees? One is guided by the philosphy of science when forming theories. My theory could be wrong or it could be partly right. That is true of all theories. Since scientists are not doing experiments re maximum human hypertrophy there is almost no literature on the subject. We have a few animal experiments but that is about it. Therefore, no one can use science to form a true theory of hypertrophy. A better approach is trial and error coupled with observing results. Add facts from physiology and animal experiments and you can make an approximation of the true field theory of hypertrophy.

Like most discoveries in science it takes individuals to come up with new ideas. There is also a logical approach that can be included so that the structure of the theory has to be right. We make assumptions about various phenomena and then engineer a result over time. Eg., assume that maximum growth each work out is possible and then see if this can be sustained.

I have a test for the truth of my theory but so far no one has refuted it. It would be a simple matter to do. Finding the field theory of hypertrophy is more difficult than rocket science as far as the individuals on Getbig are concerned. Oh, I forgot, everyone here is an expert on building muscles.

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« Reply #822 on: December 05, 2007, 03:02:08 PM »
http://truthism.com/

reptilians and stuff...dw will like this
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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #823 on: December 05, 2007, 05:42:13 PM »
...consider the fact that gh15 claims SR-71 Blackbirds were scrambled to intercept the formation. The SR-71 Blackbird has been in mothballs since long before 1997.

gh15 claims the fighter planes scrambled to intercept the formation couldn't get missile lock. Well to my knowledge, no fighters were ever sent to intercept the lights... if they had they would have been filmed by all the amateur cameramen that videoed every second of the phenomenon.

gh15 claims that the air force lost a fighter plane chasing down the formation... no planes or pilots were ever reported missing.

gh15 claims the formation was somehow transdimensional... well the same thing was claimed of Bigfoot when researchers calculated the weight via footprint depths and got a value of nearly three tonnes. Of course, the serious researchers realised the calculations were faulty... but some reckoned that such weights "proved" the footprints were made by a creature transitioning between dimensions; and if he's transitioning between dimensions then he must be an alien... or at least the ghost of an alien.

Many people pointed out that the lantern kites should have been visible from takeoff, not appearing at altitude... it's a good point. But these hoaxes have been going on for years, and there are message groups where these guys exchange techniques and recruit accomplices (just like the crop-circlers), the explanation for the sudden appearance of the lights is not so otherworldly:
-place a window of transparent material in a lantern kite made of dark material
-balance a hood of black crepe paper on the lantern kite, the kite is pretty much invisible at night... till it hits a thermal current higher up in the atmosphere and the crepe paper blows off ("UFO appears over city")
-adding sulphur; magnesium or strontium powder to the candle can make the "UFO" change colours

Seriously guys, take a good look at this site...   http://www.overflite.com/


Is it really more likely that an interdimensional craft visited Phoenix?


The Luke


you got no knoweldge about the us highest tc 32-40 military operations huh?
sr 71 neveer ever never stopped working,,it is actually right at this second over iran ,,right now in during this hour! and continusly so all over middle east,,north korea and parts of old ussr on a regular basis as of december 2007! you are talking out of your ass my friend

now not only that they didnt get missle lock but the specific ac sent to intercept which were f16e and f15 2 diff models all got too hot to a point the pilots with over 5000 hours combat in their history had to back out of there ,,they did lose 1 pilot and aircraft that night blamed for a   mission crush over arizona,,the exuse for public was exercise missions with flares ,,tactical fighting  bullshit and bunch of other rubbish

the aircraft were captured when going out of base   and were seen by 1000s ,,the excuse was MILITARY EXERCISING IN THE AREA,,excuse came weeks later and changed since then every couple months according to orders given

bigfoot is not real,,and if it was ever anything real it was a big monkey living in the fuckin forests that was bigger than the other big monkeys ,,its bullcrap very diff from what im tellin you here

iu dont know anything about dimentional traveling and dont care to know ,,what i know are facts ,,very serious facts that in reality if there was anyway to truly track me id be considered dead,,the problem is im invinsible because i work out of lap tops,,always from different location and not one,,i never admited to who i was as a pro bodybuilder..guesses are not enough...and most importantly i never work from isp or desk tops or anything that can give info,,always lap top that  is wirless that does not belong to me to begin with,,with connection to the internet via other usersthat have no connection with the people who bought those laptops im writing from,,it always have proxy and always can be thrown out the window in a matter of 1 second and this is why im invinsible and can talk so freely,,,i made sure gh15 lives in the cyber zone and only in cyberzone for many reasons that was not one of them but this is why im so open about this subject too


nwo the last paragraph you wrote is nice but it doesnt have explanation to the formation,,the power,,the control of speed since it was very exact speed the formation craft flew over arizona ,,it also doesnt describe the temp change from within the f16es and f15 ,,in addition to not explaiing why since then governor of arizona has changed his mind ,,,research into it a bit more and try to use less internet,,alot of money was put into 1997 incident out of the black budget of the usa
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Re: gh15 is officially a few beers short of a six-pack!
« Reply #824 on: December 05, 2007, 06:07:02 PM »
Well Adonis (Alex23, whoever),

...if you have access to top secret military information and understand inter-dimensional travel and get briefings on alien incursions on this planet including which cover stories will be fed to the public and as a result have to live your life avoiding ever being traced by the nefarious government agencies involved in keeping all this secret, all while maintaining your cover as a top professional bodybuilder, while drug dealing on the side... well then I've changed my mind.

gh15 is right.


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PS-it must be Adonis, who else is so flagrantly self-aggrandising.