vince do yourself a favour,,you were owned? according to getbig terms 100 of posts ago,,enough relax go watch movie,,we agreed to disagree ,,just stop with the nonesense and bullcrap,,you are the frame of mind the typical human being,,LIMITED,,there is nothing more to argue abotu when it comes to this subject ,,you are an ignorent old man to some and smart old man to others,,you are arguing with yourself my friend