Bump for truth. Plenty of guys (like Alex A) get shredded to the gills without any of that zero carb, moderate fat BS. There is no single system that works for everyone except that if you consistently take in fewer calories than you are burning, you will lose weight. Just watch Survivor and see every single person drop 40lbs regardless of their carb intake (rice, bananas, coconuts).
You're right, any diet that is a restricted calorie diet will cause you to loose weight...the idea behind his diet is simply keep a little more muscle then otherwise...that's it, no voodoo promises or outrageous claims.
Dave spent 10 years competing at the National level and being a science-minded and curious guy, he probably experimented more than anyone else with different hormone combinations. If he's such a nutritional genius, show us a single natural guy he's done wonders for. I mean, why take advice from someone who did it differently than you're trying to do? Ask a good natural bodybuilder how to build a physique without drugs and ask a hormonized bodybuilder how to do it with drugs. Anything else just don't make sense.
You know, and this may be a big shock to some of you, so sorry for spoiling your afternoon...but nutrients are "nutrients" whether you use hormones or not.
Most people miss the point of using hormones. it's not so you can discover some new found method(s) it's so you can do the right things you're already doing but do them just a little bit better.
Point being, natural or not makes no difference with this diet.
I think Dave is a very smart guy and knows his shit! He has alot of experience as well. I just do a different type of prep entirely than any of his guys. Like Special Ed said, no one system works for everyone.
Personally I like to eat carbs. Boy do I. WHo doesnt? some nice suggary oatmeal after your cardio, several cups of rice throughout the day to keep you going. etc. Its very good for the brain too. When you deprive your brain of sugar too much you start to go crazy. Or atleast I do. I could never diet hard on low carbs and keep my sanity with a full time job, wife, 23 month old, home to take care of and all my own prep and training to do. I have before and it was a nightmare and I never got that hard in the back, hams and glutes.
But his techniques are working on these guys hes helping. And I will tell you, Dave is a really cool guy too. I dont know him very well, but he seems to not only know his shit but he is a down to earth guy. Plus he made me feel alot better after prejudging when he took me to a mirror to show me how screwed up my tan was with all the oil making me look way smoother than I should have. Look at my 3 day out pics, with no tan or Oil and I was 100 times better. Anyways, Daves a good guy!
First off, hate hearing Nationals didn't go so well for you...you were no doubt ready for that show.
Just wanted to address some things you mentioned:
When you deprive your brain of sugar too much you start to go crazy. Or atleast I do. I could never diet hard on low carbs and keep my sanity
When your brain gets starved like this you're right, it is tough, you feel very lethargic, kind of spaced out, etc. Everyone knows what it feels like to have your blood sugar drop...it's not fun. But here's the deal, if someone puts up with this for a few days, usually 3-4 max, that uneasy feeling goes away...you end up feeling better then before...very even feeling, more then enough ability for concentration, etc. But that's the thing, most people can't or simply aren't willing to give it the 3-4 days needed.
Personally, I've dieted every way there is to diet, and if for nothing else other then the way you feel on the diet, then this Dave diet is the best.
