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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2008, 04:33:51 PM »
......... I wonder if Melvin could be good enough to scan his doctorate degree diploma document so we can see what he obtained. I would be interested to know what other doctorate he is pursuing on line.................

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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2008, 05:49:43 PM »
I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet.  There are a few things that need to be made clear

1.  My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years.  In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.

2.  This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen

3.  I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled

4.  Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available. 

5.  The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost. 




It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen.  Isn't that the American Dream???

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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2008, 05:56:40 PM »
I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet.  There are a few things that need to be made clear

1.  My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years.  In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.

2.  This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen

3.  I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled

4.  Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available. 

5.  The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost. 




It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen.  Isn't that the American Dream???
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« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2008, 07:10:06 PM »
I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet.  There are a few things that need to be made clear

1.  My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years.  In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.

2.  This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen

3.  I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled

4.  Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available. 

5.  The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost. 




It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen.  Isn't that the American Dream???

I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin.  Again, you can do this....it has potential.  I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things.  Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX.  We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well". 

I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K. 



Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies.  You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin.  United Health Care has a similar policy.  Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy.  Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required.  There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed.  Do you have your medicare number?  Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare?  Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT.  Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket. 

I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies?  Seriously...how do you think you will bill?  How will you keep notes?  Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation?  Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?

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« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2008, 08:19:49 PM »
I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin.  Again, you can do this....it has potential.  I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things.  Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX.  We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well". 

I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K. 



Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies.  You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin.  United Health Care has a similar policy.  Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy.  Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required.  There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed.  Do you have your medicare number?  Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare?  Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT.  Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket. 

I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies?  Seriously...how do you think you will bill?  How will you keep notes?  Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation?  Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?

You're talking way over his head, my friend

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« Reply #80 on: January 05, 2008, 09:10:43 PM »
My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit.  Here's a few of the services we will be offering:

Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing

Detoxification
    * Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
    * ONDAMED®
    * Far Infrared Sauna
    * Detoxing foot bath
    * Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
    * Stress reduction
Pain management
    * Therapeutic massage
    * SCENAR
    * ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
 
    * Food and environmental sensitivities
    * Weight management

Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
*  EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
*  Electro-Stimulator Machine
*  Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries



Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health.  I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence.  The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.


The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.




whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.

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« Reply #81 on: January 05, 2008, 09:31:14 PM »
Is it true that Vince G makes three figures a year with his combined business efforts?
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« Reply #82 on: January 05, 2008, 11:35:51 PM »
You're talking way over his head, my friend

Thats exactly what I was thinking.  I just would love to see his Business Plan.  And who did the projections.  This town down even have the population to support his business figures he has posted.  I think he thinks he can just have everybody in town come in for free and then bill the insurance companies.  The funny thing is how does a bank give a loan out to someone and a business like this when all the questions we ask he can't answer.  I would love to know where this bank is.

whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.

Vince receives all his education online.  This way he can cheat and look up the answers.  He don't need no frickin education to be doctor.  That is the Goodrum way.

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« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2008, 12:47:48 AM »
Dr Melvin Goodrum isn't fooling anyone here at Getbig. I wonder who would be impressed with the good Doctor in a white uniform? The guy is devoid of shame because who else here would send away for a PhD let alone any degree? Some guys might do that for a lark but only Melvin would be fair dinkum about it and boast about being more educated than most people here on Getbig. Armed with that degree he plans to set up a wellness clinic knowing full well most of those treatments are rubbish. He doesn't locate where sensible entrepreneurs would but on a reservation surrounded by foreclosed premises! The guy can't resist a bargain and thinks he will do better when he posts the sign, "Under new management".

The one smart thing Melvin can do is marry a Cherokee First Nation woman and live on the reserve. He won't have to pay many taxes there. No doubt he has already figured this out!

Good thing he isn't some schmuck off the street!

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« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2008, 12:58:23 AM »
Melvin have you ever thought of just forgetting about 9 to 5 work and dedicating yourself to the bodybuilding lifestyle?

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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2008, 06:04:03 AM »
I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin.  Again, you can do this....it has potential.  I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things.  Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX.  We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well". 

I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K. 



Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies.  You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin.  United Health Care has a similar policy.  Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy.  Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required.  There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed.  Do you have your medicare number?  Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare?  Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT.  Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket. 

I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies?  Seriously...how do you think you will bill?  How will you keep notes?  Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation?  Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?


I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.

Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially.  If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level.  However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.

Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly.  The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway  because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00. 

And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive

Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to  make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.


Life of an entrepenuer...... ;D   

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« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2008, 06:18:40 AM »
Sounds like you are having second thoughts about the whole operation. Once you bring a proper doctor on board you will lose control of your business. Maybe in this case that would be a blessing.

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« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2008, 06:21:04 AM »
whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.


That only applies to medical doctors who wish to incorporate naturapathy into their conventional practice..... ::).

 I am a naturopathic practitioner which means I only use naturpathic methods and I do not use conventional medicine or do surgeries or give prescriptions.  There are courses that still have to be done and I've already done them.

And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright.  There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States. 

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« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2008, 06:25:49 AM »
I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet.  There are a few things that need to be made clear

1.  My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years.  In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.

2.  This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen

3.  I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled

4.  Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available. 

5.  The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost. 




It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen.  Isn't that the American Dream???

I gave you some points on why that site is terrible but you never responded to


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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2008, 06:27:04 AM »
Sounds like you are having second thoughts about the whole operation. Once you bring a proper doctor on board you will lose control of your business. Maybe in this case that would be a blessing.


I'm only 1/3 of the entire business and the majority owner as it will be my funds that will primarily start the business.  I still have 2 other partners that are going in with me on this venture and they both have equal say in it as well.

Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me.  You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion. 

The only other thing you talk about other than me is Arnold cheating you and etc. 

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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #90 on: January 06, 2008, 06:28:56 AM »
I gave you some points on why that site is terrible but you never responded to


good luck


Its just a website, as long as it processes customer's orders, its fine with me.

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« Reply #91 on: January 06, 2008, 06:31:18 AM »
Melvin, if you remember I asked if you needed any money when I called you at the hotel. You posted how you had coupons and vouchers for meals so I wondered how you were managing. You said you didn't need any help and were too busy to chat on the phone.

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« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2008, 06:32:37 AM »

Its just a website, as long as it processes customer's orders, its fine with me.

true, but a website is a tool...a means to an end..if that process is tedious and viewed as a task then most users will find an easier tool.

at the very least support Google checkout, also the site is visually unappealing

also there are other payment gateways that charge nominal fees thus increasing your profit.
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« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2008, 06:34:25 AM »
Melvin, if you remember I asked if you needed any money when I called you at the hotel. You posted how you had coupons and vouchers for meals so I wondered how you were managing. You said you didn't need any help and were too busy to chat on the phone.

and older man calling a younger man at a hotel with an offer of money? also wanting to "chat on the phone"


lol...umm..in some circles that is not viewed as a good thing.
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Re: New Owner of Important Fitness Equipment.
« Reply #94 on: January 06, 2008, 06:42:52 AM »
true, but a website is a tool...a means to an end..if that process is tedious and viewed as a task then most users will find an easier tool.

at the very least support Google checkout, also the site is visually unappealing

also there are other payment gateways that charge nominal fees thus increasing your profit.


I have a merchant account with AuthorizeNet.  I don't have time to deal with all the fraud that happens with Paypal and Google and its a waste of time to have multiple payment gateways when you only need one which makes paperwork much easier.

The visual appearance isn't going to win any web design awards but it gets the job done.

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« Reply #95 on: January 06, 2008, 06:46:55 AM »
and older man calling a younger man at a hotel with an offer of money? also wanting to "chat on the phone"


lol...umm..in some circles that is not viewed as a good thing.


He's also always offering me trips to his gym too for "training".... :-X

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« Reply #96 on: January 06, 2008, 07:00:54 AM »

I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.

Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially.  If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level.  However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.

Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly.  The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway  because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00. 

And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive

Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to  make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.


Life of an entrepenuer...... ;D   

entrepreneur u fucking turd.

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« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2008, 07:10:10 AM »
entrepreneur u fucking turd.

There are hundreds of things Melvin says that can be criticised, I don't get why you have to for a spelling owning ::)

the problem with your rethoric daddy, as usual, is that u assume everyone has the same physique than you.

but people are genetically totaly different from you and you can't just say "this will work for everyone".


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« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2008, 07:14:18 AM »
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« Reply #99 on: January 06, 2008, 07:21:01 AM »
Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me.  You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion. 

I think it probably has something to do with the fact that you look like shit and made fun of him in the early days of him being here (weren't you the one calling him "old salt" ?).