PM Questions Answers - Dianabol

[Cleanest Natural]

Sometimes I'm unsure of the slang. So Russian dbol are naps, right? And naps are no good. Thai dbol is anabol and those are the only ones to get now, right?

no. Nps as in Naposim made by Terapia Cluj , is one of the best dianabol in the world if not THE best . thai pinks, Naposim , are all the same dianabol. Russians as gh 15 calls them , I believe he refers to a mix od dianabol and methyl testosterone very popular in eastern europe about until 10 years ago . they were the shit. No longer produces. Hopes this clarify your query.

[Bobby]

To an extent...but things like Tylenol, Advil, Ibuprofen etc are much harder...of course then there is alcohol, which takes the prize big time...wk end warrior drinkers do far more damage to their livers then those that run simple cycles that consist of oral AAS.

Methandrostenolone is great for size but it's always been the only thing that has given me side effects that I do not care for at all. On the other hand, oxymetholone (Anadrol for the clueless, lol) I love...it equals better gains, better pumps and for me at least, far less annoying side effects.

Love me some drol!!!

What sides did you experience?

Have you done oral only cycle(s) ?

[the_doc]

What sides did you experience?

Have you done oral only cycle(s) ?

I have no personal experience. However I remember training with a guy years ago who took only dianabol for 8 weeks. Never took anything else before or after. Started with 4/day and worked up to 10/day. He was 20 at the time.(too young IMO). He was already very big and strong eg dbell shoulder presses with 90 for reps, bench 315 for reps etc. Weighed 17 stone. End of his cycle benching 405 for 4 real, full reps. inclined 315 for real reps. looked like arnie in the film "Twins". (About the same height too). Type of guy that if i posted pics 5 years ago of him peolple would shout "all drugs, dead by 25 etc".  I can't recommend what he did but the results were incredible. Met him recently after a few years. He doesn't use anymore but is still huge and reasonably lean. Also doing a phd in chemical engineering.

As an aside, someone said d-bol is like taking candy compared to tylenol for your liver. Unless you're OD'ing on tyelonol regularily that's bulshit. Oral 'roids can be heavy on the liver. I have seen the blood test pre and post cycle.

regards,
the Doc

[Bobby]

I have no personal experience. However I remember training with a guy years ago who took only dianabol for 8 weeks. Never took anything else before or after. Started with 4/day and worked up to 10/day. He was 20 at the time.(too young IMO). He was already very big and strong eg dbell shoulder presses with 90 for reps, bench 315 for reps etc. Weighed 17 stone. End of his cycle benching 405 for 4 real, full reps. inclined 315 for real reps. looked like arnie in the film "Twins". (About the same height too). Type of guy that if i posted pics 5 years ago of him peolple would shout "all drugs, dead by 25 etc".  I can't recommend what he did but the results were incredible. Met him recently after a few years. He doesn't use anymore but is still huge and reasonably lean. Also doing a phd in chemical engineering.

As an aside, someone said d-bol is like taking candy compared to tylenol for your liver. Unless you're OD'ing on tyelonol regularily that's bulshit. Oral 'roids can be heavy on the liver. I have seen the blood test pre and post cycle.

regards,
the Doc

Yikes! that's alot of gains

[DK II]

donkeykong owned 

oh yeah, totally destroyed... 

[cht868]

can i start taking dianabol at 19?

yes, start at 100 mg daily and build up to 1000 mg, run 6-8 weeks and eat like crazy, should help you gain a few lbs

[claymore]

D-bol alone is a good cycle. Tylenol will kill your liver. Compared to Tylenol, D-bol is a sugar pill as far as your liver goes. Yes, some love Drol more than     D-bol. Less water, but some have worse sides. Depends on the person.

Couldn't agree more!

[The_Punisher]

I got news for you, stop roids and your gains will go away whether they are oral or injects.

Amen to that

[m8]

what about monkey GH?

Ha ha, bigbobs is really trying his hardest to look like nasser (look at the glasses)

[Van_Bilderass]

I got news for you, stop roids and your gains will go away whether they are oral or injects.

Exactly, all anabolic steroids work through the same mechanisms pretty much.

[gh15]

the main thing is that you HAVE TO HAVE LEGIT DIANABOL ,,undeground dianabol are not legit they are not done right they use bunk powders underdosed posdwers and then underdosed the product,,they just dont have the ability to mix it well ,,they dont have the ability to process the chemicals sme way as human grade commerical lab ,,they work out of kitchens and in many times throw diff poweders for dif products ,,in 90% of cases it is bunk powder !


NOW TO FINISH THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL I WILL TELL YOU HERE THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGN YOU SEE WHEN YOU TAKE LEGIT DIANABOL SUCH AS ANABOLS,,

YOU TAKE IT LETS SAY FIRST 2 LTTIEL TABLETS AT 10 AM ,,THEN 2 MORE AT 2 PM THEN 2 MORE AT 6 PM ,,,YOU GO TO SLEEP AT MIDNIGHT AFTER EAITNG ALL DAY LONG LIKE CRAZY CLEAN FOOD BECAUSE YOUR STIOMACK DIDNT EVEN FEEL THE NEED FOR JUNK FOOD BECAUSE THE DRUG MADE YOU HUNGRY AND YOU CAN EAT A LIVE PIG....YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS FINE ,,,YET WASKING UP AT 5 AM DUE TO SEVERE HUNGER AND GOT TO HAVE EGGWHITES AND SOME PENUT BUTTER OR SOME MORE NUTRITION,,

THAT MY FRIENDS! IS REAL LEGIT DIANABOL ,,THAT IS WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU USE ANABOLS ,,

IF YOU DONT WAKE UP EARLY MORNING WANTING TO FUCK YOUR GIRLFRIEND TO PIECES AND SIMPLY RAPE HER,,,AND WANTING TO EAT AT THE SAME TIME 2 MEALS ,,YOU SIMPLY DO NOT USE REAL LEGIT PHARMA HUMAN GRADE DIANABOL ,,,

99% OF DIANABOL FROM UNDERGROUND IS FAKE AND BUNK AND SEV\ERELY UNDERDOSED,,

ONLY USE HUMAN GRADE HORMONES !

WHEN YOU ARE ON DIANABOL YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE GOD AMONG HUMANS ,,YOU ARE ALWAYS HUNGRY ,,YOU CAN DOWN 10 MEALS A DAY ,,AND! ALL THAT BY ONLY TAKING 4-6 TABLETS ,,,

THIS IS REAL HORMONES FOR YOU MY FRIENDS

[Van_Bilderass]

The Thai Acdhon Methandon were good too. Is it still made?

[Disgusted]

As an aside, someone said d-bol is like taking candy compared to tylenol for your liver. Unless you're OD'ing on tyelonol regularily that's bulshit. Oral 'roids can be heavy on the liver. I have seen the blood test pre and post cycle.

regards,
the Doc

I said it and you are without a doubt you are very wrong. Tylenol can and has been deadly to the liver even at the recommended dose in people who are fasting or not eating much due to illness. You need to do a little research and keep up with the latest findings about acetaminophen. Any Dr should know this!!!!

Every time you take Tylenol or another drug containing acetaminophen, a small part of the drug will be converted into a toxin that can cause severe liver damage. Under normal circumstances, a bodily chemical known as glutathione conjugates and binds with the toxin to render it harmless. However, in certain cases, too much of the toxin is produced and not enough glutathione is available to detoxify it. People who have the flu, a stomach virus, a toothache, or who are not eating normally for another reason can suffer liver failure in as little as one week's time when taking Tylenol or another drug containing acetaminophen. This has happened already in a few people who were taking the recommended dose for only a couple of days.

[Go 4 It]

the main thing is that you HAVE TO HAVE LEGIT DIANABOL ,,undeground dianabol are not legit they are not done right they use bunk powders underdosed posdwers and then underdosed the product,,they just dont have the ability to mix it well ,,they dont have the ability to process the chemicals sme way as human grade commerical lab ,,they work out of kitchens and in many times throw diff poweders for dif products ,,in 90% of cases it is bunk powder !


NOW TO FINISH THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL I WILL TELL YOU HERE THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGN YOU SEE WHEN YOU TAKE LEGIT DIANABOL SUCH AS ANABOLS,,

YOU TAKE IT LETS SAY FIRST 2 LTTIEL TABLETS AT 10 AM ,,THEN 2 MORE AT 2 PM THEN 2 MORE AT 6 PM ,,,YOU GO TO SLEEP AT MIDNIGHT AFTER EAITNG ALL DAY LONG LIKE CRAZY CLEAN FOOD BECAUSE YOUR STIOMACK DIDNT EVEN FEEL THE NEED FOR JUNK FOOD BECAUSE THE DRUG MADE YOU HUNGRY AND YOU CAN EAT A LIVE PIG....YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS FINE ,,,YET WASKING UP AT 5 AM DUE TO SEVERE HUNGER AND GOT TO HAVE EGGWHITES AND SOME PENUT BUTTER OR SOME MORE NUTRITION,,

THAT MY FRIENDS! IS REAL LEGIT DIANABOL ,,THAT IS WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU USE ANABOLS ,,

IF YOU DONT WAKE UP EARLY MORNING WANTING TO FUCK YOUR GIRLFRIEND TO PIECES AND SIMPLY RAPE HER,,,AND WANTING TO EAT AT THE SAME TIME 2 MEALS ,,YOU SIMPLY DO NOT USE REAL LEGIT PHARMA HUMAN GRADE DIANABOL ,,,

99% OF DIANABOL FROM UNDERGROUND IS FAKE AND BUNK AND SEV\ERELY UNDERDOSED,,

ONLY USE HUMAN GRADE HORMONES !

WHEN YOU ARE ON DIANABOL YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE GOD AMONG HUMANS ,,YOU ARE ALWAYS HUNGRY ,,YOU CAN DOWN 10 MEALS A DAY ,,AND! ALL THAT BY ONLY TAKING 4-6 TABLETS ,,,

THIS IS REAL HORMONES FOR YOU MY FRIENDS

I feel this way all the time, always hungry as hell (eat 8-9 times a day) and I'm always horney as fuck.....never taken a steroid in my life.....

[benz]

I feel this way all the time, always hungry as hell (eat 8-9 times a day) and I'm always horney as fuck.....never taken a steroid in my life.....

you are a walking dianabol pill 

[trab]

THIs info from GH15 is 100% real deal on what to expect from real Dbol.
Every F'ing detail is spot on.
Anyone whos says he's not a legit BBer/ steroid expert is a clown thats never had unlimited access to real HG aas where its OTC legal.

All this shit here on G.B. about "Im on 50mg ed of Dbol and wondering when it kicks in...".  

Standard reply...."Oh, it varries, for sum guys it takes a few weeks...".  

Well, maybee the 2nd guy has a interest in making them believe.... Whatever....

[trab]

I feel this way all the time, always hungry as hell (eat 8-9 times a day) and I'm always horney as fuck.....never taken a steroid in my life.....

Youd be 2X as bad on Dbol then. YOu'd also likely swell very nice.

[Go 4 It]

you are a walking dianabol pill 

Imagine if I actually took D-Bol, I would have to eat every half hour and fuck a bitch every hour on the hour ....

[Arnold jr]

What sides did you experience?

I've used it numerous times...made decent gains using it. However, it always, and I mean every single time without fail, makes me extremely lethargic...gives me terrible headaches, sometimes to the point of nauseating migraines...it also bloats me way beyond what is acceptable in terms of simply feeling comfortable.

Like I mentioned, anadrol does not do this to me at all...nothing but positive things to say about anadrol.

Keep in mind, not everyone is effected by dbol like I am...far from it. Most can use it without a single problem...for whatever reason, I'm not one of them.

Have you done oral only cycle(s) ?

No, never have. All of my cycles are either all injectable or injectable with some orals mixed in.

 I'm not a fan of oral only cycles. You can make some gains off of oral only cycles...people;e that say you can't are full of it. Even so, it's not the most effective way to use AAS and in terms of what you spend your money on, if you were going to use AAS and if you were only going to use one item, you'd be best served to simply run a cycle of testosterone.

[LATS]

  another compound that has a similar effect on immediate body change fotr many people is tren.. when i took tren it was immediate.. body changes and strength went through the roof..

[the_doc]

I said it and you are without a doubt you are very wrong. Tylenol can and has been deadly to the liver even at the recommended dose in people who are fasting or not eating much due to illness. You need to do a little research and keep up with the latest findings about acetaminophen. Any Dr should know this!!!!

Every time you take Tylenol or another drug containing acetaminophen, a small part of the drug will be converted into a toxin that can cause severe liver damage. Under normal circumstances, a bodily chemical known as glutathione conjugates and binds with the toxin to render it harmless. However, in certain cases, too much of the toxin is produced and not enough glutathione is available to detoxify it. People who have the flu, a stomach virus, a toothache, or who are not eating normally for another reason can suffer liver failure in as little as one week's time when taking Tylenol or another drug containing acetaminophen. This has happened already in a few people who were taking the recommended dose for only a couple of days.

Well made points but you are hardly comparing like with like. Healthy, young weight trainers with sick/fasting people. There are risks to taking almost any medication long or short term. Acetominophen(paracetemol in europe) is very danerous in overdose and causes irriversible liver damage and your points about normal use are also true but adverse effects in people using it for headaches, hanovers, cold or flus are very, very rare. Flu and cold remedies sell in the milions. My arguement that saying a heavy cycle of orals compared to ordinary use of  paracetemol is like sweets to your liver is crap. You are correct to highlight that paracetemol can be very danerous and shouldn't be taken excessively or routinely but you should not give the impression that someone using roids can relax safe in the knowledge that it's nothing compared to taking tylenol.
I am not very judgemental when it comes to roids. i have seen biochemical evidence of changes pre and post cycle. Millions of people with chronic ill health use paracetemol regularily eg arthritis with almost zero side effect burden on patients or health service in terms of liver faiure.
regards,

the Doc

[Matt C]

How much will I gain on 30MG of BD dbol per day for 30 days?  Discuss.

[bodybuildermdpitt]

D-bol alone is a good cycle. Tylenol will kill your liver. Compared to Tylenol, D-bol is a sugar pill as far as your liver goes. Yes, some love Drol more than     D-bol. Less water, but some have worse sides. Depends on the person.

You can say this because you checked LFTs and albumin levels before and after D - bol and then compared it to Tylenol and looked for statistical significance   You so called "gurus", are exactly why bodybuilding has become a joke and a freak show. D-bol occupies cytochrome p450 and many other cytochromes MUCH more than tylenol, not that tylenol is not toxic to the liver. LFTs are always checked when giving oral anabolics, this is starded of care in most American hospitals. In fact, when you deal with cancer patients, status post chemo, and give them ORAL anabolics, such as D-bol, LFTs along with albumin are always checked. However, LFTs do not have to be checked with tylenol, assuming the patient is not overdosing on tylenol, which sadly is not always checked. No offence Disgusted, do not make blank statements without really understanding what you are talking about. Then again this is very typical of "drug gurus." Human beings should not be used as lab rats for you "gurus" to test your absurd theories on. Let the real doctors deal with real science.

cheers,

bodybuildermdpitt

[Matt C]

Superdrol or dbol guys?

[Disgusted]

Well made points but you are hardly comparing like with like.
Healthy, young weight trainers with sick/fasting people. There are risks to taking almost any medication long or short term. Acetominophen(paracetemol in europe) is very danerous in overdose and causes irriversible liver damage and your points about normal use are also true but adverse effects in people using it for headaches, hanovers, cold or flus are very, very rare. Not true. Many here in the US have needed liver transplants just using it for hangovers at recommened doses once or twice a week. This is exactly why there is a warning now on the label. Flu and cold remedies sell in the milions. and there are MANY deaths because of these drugs and not because of abuse. My arguement that saying a heavy cycle of orals compared to ordinary use of  paracetemol is like sweets to your liver is crap. You are correct to highlight that paracetemol can be very danerous and shouldn't be taken excessively or routinely but you should not give the impression that someone using roids can relax safe in the knowledge that it's nothing compared to taking tylenol. That's exactly what I am saying. I have never known anyone who has needed a liver transplant because they took 50 mgs of dbol or 100mgs of drol for a few months. BTW, it's not just sick people who don't eat, it's also BB's who diet for shows. I wonder how many BB who are taking tylenol for aches and pains while contest dieting who may end up needing are liver tranplant and have it blamed on dbol?I am not very judgemental when it comes to roids. i have seen biochemical evidence of changes pre and post cycle. So have I and it is nearly impossible to get accurate readings on liver enzymes, CK levels and kidney due to the fact that these guys are breaking down muscle tissue to such a great degree.  Millionds of people with chronic ill health use paracetemol regularily eg arthritis with almost zero side effect burden on patients or health service in terms of liver faiure. Statement of opinion not fact since there is no way to test liver enzymes on these millions of people. regards,

the Doc