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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2008, 05:34:52 PM »
Because Yates was a pioneer of HGH. Haney was the last great champ between the Pumping Iron era and the new age of HGH and insulin abuse. It's ridiculous to compare him to peak Yates as Yates ushered in a whole new (terrible) age that led to the guts and more muscle than frames can handle. When they competed on a level drug playing field Haney was a worthy winner.

Haney was a boring kind of guy but he pretty much deserved every single title he won, far less controversially than the likes of some of Yates' , Coleman's and Cutler's.

Agree with the 1st paragraph, there was a big difference in drug cocktails.

2nd paragraph no, many of the wins were political there's no excusing that many wins with that type of gross physique imbalance. Nothing else on the physique ever matched the great torso, unfortunately but he got lots of points behind the scenes for being the kind of eloquent spokesman Weider and the IFBB wanted, plus there was no one else clearly better to make the questionable decisions obvious.

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #76 on: February 01, 2008, 05:36:50 PM »
A lot of the Yates fans seem to be young, white and very racist.

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #77 on: February 01, 2008, 05:37:12 PM »

If anything Haney was the most genetically gifted of all time.


Absurd, you really don't know BB. Great torso, gross imbalance elsewhere, nowhere near the top guys genetically speaking. If he had been and had been truly balanced, he'd have deserved multiple wins.

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2008, 05:38:25 PM »
Well then who in your opinion should have beaten Haney during the 80's?

He won 8 because he was the best of that era, not today.

No one should've necessarily beaten him, because there was no one else great at their peak during that time.

However that's not the same as saying that he was really an all-time great; he wasn't.

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2008, 05:39:01 PM »
Haney is definitely not the most impressive Mr. O, but the reason he won 8 was because he was the best for all those years.  The genetics of the 80s bodybuilders was the worst imo, he didnt have much competition

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2008, 05:40:25 PM »

Absurd, you really don't know BB. Great torso, gross imbalance elsewhere, nowhere near the top guys genetically speaking. If he had been and had been truly balanced, he'd have deserved multiple wins.

The irony of you saying someone doesn't know bodybuilding , you'll gloss right over Ronnie's blatantly obvious imbalance & proportion issues and hoop & holla about others , and all because Ronnie has better ' show muscles ; as you call them

Lee Haney dominated in a way Coleman couldn't for a reason , he had something Coleman didn't aesthetics and size

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2008, 05:42:26 PM »
The irony of you saying someone doesn't know bodybuilding , you'll gloss right over Ronnie's blatantly obvious imbalance & proportion issues and hoop & holla about others , and all because Ronnie has better ' show muscles ; as you call them

Lee Haney dominated in a way Coleman couldn't for a reason , he had something Coleman didn't aesthetics and size


ND = IFBB shill


According to this genius, show results and judging are beyong reproach so of course this is the stock answer even though he can't explain Columbu over Padilla in 1981 lol

Coleman's balance in the late 90s was better than Haney's, with far better size as well.

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2008, 05:44:21 PM »

ND = IFBB shill


According to this genius, show results and judging are beyong reproach so of course this is the stock answer even though he can't explain Columbu over Padilla in 1981 lol

Again pumpster explain Coleman 2001/2002  I'm still waiting  ;)

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2008, 05:50:03 PM »

Absurd, you really don't know BB. Great torso, gross imbalance elsewhere, nowhere near the top guys genetically speaking. If he had been and had been truly balanced, he'd have deserved multiple wins.

It's an opinion. Bit of an immature response. Both Rich Gaspari and Labrada said he had insane genetics. Having good genetics doesn't mean that all your bodyparts are perfect since no bodybuilder has ever had that - Arnold had small legs and biceps that dominated his arms/ Yates had smallish arms/Coleman had a disgusting stomach, gyno and no calves. I mean one of the most genetically blessed in terms of how easily it all came to him..the lack of intensity he needed to generate the clearly dominant physique of the time. If he'd used the cocktails of a Coleman he might have been even more impressive  since much of this relies on someone's response to hormones.


This is a direct quote from Rich Gaspari (who knows a bit more about bodybuilding than 'Pumpster' from the internet) :


Rich – Out of all the guys I competed against, I would say Lee Haney had some of the best genetics. You know, even at the Olympia, he wasn’t perfect. I thought he had weak legs, weak calves and I thought he could have had better separation in his thighs. But, when you saw his waist to shoulder differential at that time, he had the best out there.

 I trained with him and he was a guy who had great genetics. He didn’t have to train as hard as I did and the guy had the genes to look the way he did.
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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2008, 05:51:59 PM »
This is such an amazing shot of Haney just textbook perfect front double biceps shot

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2008, 05:55:39 PM »
I have to agree ND. Imo the least controversial champion of all time. He crushed everybody and none of them complain about it. However, I perfectly accept that people will not agree as much of this is subjective... can still keep it respectful eh pumpster?
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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2008, 06:06:32 PM »
i agree with you 100 percent on Haney, small arms and legs.

let's see yours stud ;D

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2008, 06:43:32 PM »
I have to agree ND. Imo the least controversial champion of all time. He crushed everybody and none of them complain about it. However, I perfectly accept that people will not agree as much of this is subjective... can still keep it respectful eh pumpster?

I agree except for maybe 2 of the eight years

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #88 on: February 01, 2008, 06:53:12 PM »
Here's another reason why he won............





You just don't see detail like that on anyone anymore :'(

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #89 on: February 01, 2008, 07:13:44 PM »
This is such an amazing shot of Haney just textbook perfect front double biceps shot
colemen is not a pimple on haneys ass!
haney was farrrr superior!

easilly the most dominant mr o of alltime!

the retards who say hes small now would have been in awe of him durring the 80's, way way more untouchable then coleman.. no one on the planet ever thought haney would lose, unlike coleman who had many close calls.

what a fuckin joke, coleman would be booed off the stage if he stood next to haney!

haney has it all right down to the calves...

look at the pathetic midsection, the calves  the flow, total destruction

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2008, 07:20:10 PM »


Lee Haney dominated in a way Coleman couldn't for a reason , he had something Coleman didn't aesthetics and size

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bull fucking shit:

explain these comparisons dumbass:

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ronnie owns haney:
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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #91 on: February 01, 2008, 07:23:26 PM »
not even close:

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #92 on: February 01, 2008, 07:25:26 PM »
Haney would have KILLED to look like Ronnie:
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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2008, 07:25:31 PM »
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bull fucking shit:

explain these comparisons dumbass:

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ronnie owns haney:

WRONG Ronnie never dominated like Haney , and unlike Coleman , Haney combined mass & asesthetics in a way again Coleman could not , does that mean he could beat Ronnie? NO but he still dominated his contemporaries and he is still a hell of a lot more aesthetic than Ronnie

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #94 on: February 01, 2008, 07:25:54 PM »
Haney was great for sure

Flea Labrada and Ripped Richie were his only competition and they were like 4 feet tall

come on now


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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #95 on: February 01, 2008, 07:26:44 PM »
Haney would have KILLED to look like Ronnie:

yeah killed lol

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #96 on: February 01, 2008, 07:27:39 PM »
lol sure ND ::)

the final nail in ND's dream fantasy coffin:
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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2008, 07:28:42 PM »
yeah killed lol

notice I am taking Haney shots from 1991, his best ever shape and you are using shots of Coleman in his worst LOL

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try this on for size:

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #98 on: February 01, 2008, 07:31:03 PM »
yes ND, KILLED:

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Re: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?!
« Reply #99 on: February 01, 2008, 07:32:55 PM »
its amazing the favorites ND plays.

one of the reasons he cites Ronnie has having bad aesthetics is his abdominals, yet Haney had some of the most famously bad abs going, equally as bad as Ronnie's:

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care to comment ND lol

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