Author Topic: How did Lee Haney won 8 Olympia titles ?! (Read 30835 times)

Hulkster · « **Reply #225 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:53:07 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 05, 2008, 01:48:25 PM

Once again your own hero disagrees

Ronnie Coleman : DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

owned

run along and play now

once again you fail to understand that what ronnie says doesn't mean dick if we can compare them visually and dorian gets blown off the stage..

Hulkster · « **Reply #226 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:54:54 PM »

ps Nasser is Ronnie's bitch!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #227 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:01:20 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 05, 2008, 01:53:07 PM

once again you fail to understand that what ronnie says doesn't mean dick if we can compare them visually and dorian gets blown off the stage..

Hey look Hulkster posts a picture of Yates not at his best and thinks he's proved something , NO what Ronnie says does mean a LOT when coupled with visually

oh keep this in mind all rounds are physique rounds and according to that Dorian easily beats Ronnie in the side chest shot , use the criteria Yates better balance & proportion , conditioning & density , posing , size you have nothing to work with .

Hulkster · « **Reply #228 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:04:25 PM »

Quote

oh keep this in mind all rounds are physique rounds and according to that Dorian easily beats Ronnie in the side chest shot , use the criteria Yates better balance & proportion , conditioning & density , posing , size you have nothing to work with .

nice deflection.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #229 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 05, 2008, 02:04:25 PM

nice deflection.

You never could counter my arguments

hey whats the excuse today? Ronnie was being humble ? or he admitted Yates had a better side chest because of politics?

Hulkster · « **Reply #230 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:31:36 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 05, 2008, 02:08:24 PM

You never could counter my arguments hey whats the excuse today? Ronnie was being humble ? or he admitted Yates had a better side chest because of politics?

why do you care what Ronnie says when the visuals prove quite clearly that ronnie is wrong?

you cling to inaccurate opinions because real life is your enemy.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #231 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:39:39 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 05, 2008, 02:31:36 PM

why do you care what Ronnie says when the visuals prove quite clearly that ronnie is wrong?

you cling to inaccurate opinions because real life is your enemy.

No the visuals aren't wrong , I've showed you and proved to you via judges , writers and professionals countless times Dorian has better conditioning & density specifically compared to Ronnie , and better balance & proportion , again directly compared to Ronnie and I took it a few steps further , I have this quote from Ronnie in 2003

Ronnie Coleman : DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

and one from Shawn Ray commenting on Ronnie's side chest side was never that great compared to people who could actually do it and I posted a visual proof of this thats a proven point , you have nothing but contradiction and denial , see pictures and see for yourself why " The Greatest Mr Olympia Ever " said Dorian Yates had the best side chest pose he ever seen

bigbobs · « **Reply #232 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:45:08 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on February 05, 2008, 01:54:54 PM

ps Nasser is Ronnie's bitch!

Why do you have to keep posting one pic where Nasser is standing at a weird angle and was during the year that he came lightest (264 lbs) compared his usual contest weight of 280 or more.

Why not post an actual comparison pic?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #233 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:47:42 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 05, 2008, 02:45:08 PM

Why do you have to keep posting one pic where Nasser is standing at a weird angle and was during the year that he came lightest (264 lbs) compared his usual contest weight of 280 or more. Why not post an actual comparison pic?

Its and old M.O. of his he posts pics of guys NOT at their best or in transitional shots he thinks it proves his point it only proves his fear

bigbobs · « **Reply #234 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:50:59 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 05, 2008, 02:47:42 PM

Its and old M.O. of his he posts pics of guys NOT at their best or in transitional shots he thinks it proves his point it only proves his fear

two can play that game! Do you have the 95 NOC (I think?) comparison with Nasser, Ronnie and Vince Taylor?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #235 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:22:38 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 05, 2008, 02:50:59 PM

two can play that game! Do you have the 95 NOC (I think?) comparison with Nasser, Ronnie and Vince Taylor?

http://www.muscletime.com/photos/v/professional-bodybuilding/night-of-champions-contest/1995-night-of-champions/

bigbobs · « **Reply #236 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:10:34 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 05, 2008, 03:22:38 PM

http://www.muscletime.com/photos/v/professional-bodybuilding/night-of-champions-contest/1995-night-of-champions/

Thank you!

Triple-H_2005 · « **Reply #237 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:47:25 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 05, 2008, 01:51:24 PM

It's not just me who thinks he is, the majority of getbiggers....this pic has already been posted on a new thread and most people agreed that Nasser is beating Dorian in that pic. Any non-delusional guy would agree. Nasser has a much more pronounced taper than Dorian there, bigger legs, bigger/rounder/more detailed arms and delts, more ripped hamstrings, etc.

Good job avoiding my request to post pics of your hero from the back comparing 1994/95 to 1997 and beyond.

Oops. Looks like somebody did it for you!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=199065.0

Proving my point that his back worsened and his waist widened after 1994/95 with his increased mass.

And calling me a Dorin guy is just childish. If you've been awake, you'd remember that I have leveled as much criticism at Dorian's physique issues as I have any BBer.

Flex 215 · « **Reply #238 on:** February 07, 2008, 01:30:35 AM »

Quote from: Triple-H_2005 on February 05, 2008, 06:34:19 AM

What's this? An intelligent, well thought-out post on GetBig?

Away with you!!!

Sorry Triple-H ! I'll try to not let it happen again.

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #239 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:27:41 AM »

haney was the best at the time. everyone he stood on stage with up until 1990 he blew away.

his legs were weak, yes, but the only top tier guy that clearly owned him here were ray, strydom, but ray was too small and strydom had no back.

his arms were dwarfed by his torso but, even here, he dominated the top tier. christian could have threatened but didn't have the discipline (prob too many recs killing his motivation). there were a motley crew of guys that had far better arms but those guys (fox, buchanan, quinn, etc) didn't have the rest of the tools ie condition, nowhere close to the level of muscularity and thickness in delts, back, chest (fox was close).

closest haney came to receiving a gift was 1990, but people forget that everyone was off in that comp incl ray and labrada (although they were both in better condition, but condition alone doesn't win an olympia contest).

don't compare haney's dominance to jay's rip off.

Bear · « **Reply #240 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:05:19 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 01, 2008, 05:40:25 PM

The irony of you saying someone doesn't know bodybuilding , you'll gloss right over Ronnie's blatantly obvious imbalance & proportion issues and hoop & holla about others , and all because Ronnie has better ' show muscles ; as you call them

Lee Haney dominated in a way Coleman couldn't for a reason , he had something Coleman didn't aesthetics and size

To paraphrase Branch Warren, let me tell you something about aesthetics, it's just another way of saying small. Lol. In this case small arms and legs. If you don't squat till you drop you don't get a big waist, but you don't get big legs either. Plus you had to choose a Coleman pic from when 2001 to make your point? Ronnie had already won 2 Olympias with an awesome waist and 1 with a relatively mediocre waist but insane proportions elsewhere, i,e, 2000 where he made EVERYONE look like little kids.

Compare him objectively to the other guys and you'll see why he got a perfect score. I mean he makes the others look like they're missing every bodypart, lol.

Shit forgot this wasn't the truce thread. Anyway, Lee Haney was Totalee Awesome, but that doesn't somehow mean Coleman sucked.

Bear · « **Reply #241 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:08:37 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 05, 2008, 02:39:39 PM

No the visuals aren't wrong , I've showed you and proved to you via judges , writers and professionals countless times Dorian has better conditioning & density specifically compared to Ronnie , and better balance & proportion , again directly compared to Ronnie and I took it a few steps further , I have this quote from Ronnie in 2003

Ronnie Coleman : DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

and one from Shawn Ray commenting on Ronnie's side chest side was never that great compared to people who could actually do it and I posted a visual proof of this thats a proven point , you have nothing but contradiction and denial , see pictures and see for yourself why " The Greatest Mr Olympia Ever " said Dorian Yates had the best side chest pose he ever seen

To summarise this whole debate, you base your opinions on those of others. It's true because someone told me so.

Triple-H_2005 · « **Reply #242 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:10:44 PM »

Quote from: Triple-H_2005 on February 06, 2008, 05:47:25 AM

Good job avoiding my request to post pics of your hero from the back comparing 1994/95 to 1997 and beyond.

Oops. Looks like somebody did it for you!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=199065.0

Proving my point that his back worsened and his waist widened after 1994/95 with his increased mass.

And calling me a Dorin guy is just childish. If you've been awake, you'd remember that I have leveled as much criticism at Dorian's physique issues as I have any BBer.

Still no response from Nasser...oops! I mean Bigbobs.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #243 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:28:30 PM »

Quote from: Bear on February 07, 2008, 03:08:37 AM

To summarise this whole debate, you base your opinions on those of others. It's true because someone told me so.

No , you couldn't be any more wrong , I base my opinion on a number of things such as who meets the criteria better , who has better conditioning & density , who has better balance & proportion , who is a better technical poser , who has the least amount of flaws , who dominated their competition , who has the best win/loss ratio , and I supplement my opinion ( after the fact ) with those who prove my point for me , so again you couldn't be more wrong .

calmus · « **Reply #244 on:** February 07, 2008, 06:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Bear on February 07, 2008, 03:05:19 AM

To paraphrase Branch Warren, let me tell you something about aesthetics, it's just another way of saying small. Lol. In this case small arms and legs. If you don't squat till you drop you don't get a big waist, but you don't get big legs either. Plus you had to choose a Coleman pic from when 2001 to make your point? Ronnie had already won 2 Olympias with an awesome waist and 1 with a relatively mediocre waist but insane proportions elsewhere, i,e, 2000 where he made EVERYONE look like little kids.

Compare him objectively to the other guys and you'll see why he got a perfect score. I mean he makes the others look like they're missing every bodypart, lol.

Shit forgot this wasn't the truce thread. Anyway, Lee Haney was Totalee Awesome, but that doesn't somehow mean Coleman sucked.

Hahahahaha....Ronnie is pwning them all. Was this before the Jaw arrived on the scene?

England_1 · « **Reply #245 on:** February 07, 2008, 06:42:59 PM »

Quote from: Bear on February 07, 2008, 03:08:37 AM

To summarise this whole debate, you base your opinions on those of others. It's true because someone told me so.

It's called supporting your argument dummy.

pumpster · « **Reply #246 on:** February 07, 2008, 06:49:00 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on February 07, 2008, 06:42:59 PM

It's called supporting your argument dummy.

England is ND's ~~boyfriend~~ gimmic & gets very protective when nerves are struck.

England_1 · « **Reply #247 on:** February 07, 2008, 07:07:12 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on February 07, 2008, 06:49:00 PM

England is ND's ~~boyfriend~~ gimmic & gets very protective when nerves are struck.

Stick to the issue dweeb. Nobody writes a scientific paper without citing credible sources. Of course I doubt you'd know anything about the academic world anyways

m8 · « **Reply #248 on:** February 08, 2008, 12:52:41 AM »

This is why Ronnie dominated for years.

SquatAss · « **Reply #249 on:** February 08, 2008, 01:34:18 AM »

Nobody can touch Ronnie!