yeah, I thought so.
I most certainly have corrected you many times. I've posted several quotes from IFBB judges, pros, and bodybuilding experts that contradict you. I've exposed how biased you are - selecting which quotes to accept and ignore (sometimes from the same source). You've been reduced to a bitter fan-boy who's High School crush has been relegated to 2nd place.
The reason I mentioned the religious section is b/c the posters are generally more intelligent, and I take on a more serious tone when I post there. Luck has nothing to do with it. Ask usmokepole if you don't believe me. You would get verbally raped if you tried the same bullshit antics there.
Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005
"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."
John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia
"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."
Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005
"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"
Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004
“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”
NOT ONE OF THE ABOVE QUOTES MENTIONS 01 ASC RONNIE LOOKING SMALL. ON THE CONTRARY, THEY ALL COMMENT ON HIS SIZE AND MUSCULARITY.
a better taper is just one of Ronnie's advantages over Dorian. Taper alone doesn't make for a better back just as trap striations alone don't make for a better back.
not when comparing the top 2 backs of all-time. We must pick at straws in order to decide who's better. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Lamborghini. If we were comparing a Ferrari to a Mustang, then I'd agree with you.
Ronnie's lats are fuller and his lower back is thicker. Dorian's erector spinae appear to be missing in some poses.
yeah, I thought so.
Still playing follow the leader
I most certainly have corrected you many times. I've posted several quotes from IFBB judges, pros, and bodybuilding experts that contradict you. I've exposed how biased you are - selecting which quotes to accept and ignore (sometimes from the same source). You've been reduced to a bitter fan-boy who's High School crush has been relegated to 2nd place.
You haven't corrected jack shit you made feeble attempts and fell flat on your face as usual. and every quote you posted was addressed , corrected and dismissed you posted quote relative to Ronnie competition and attempted to apply them to Yates lol thats corrected?
and again I'm not an idiot like you I can agree or disagree with quote I want especially if their subjective , you're the idiot who claimed if you believe one quote you're not bound by all of them
I mean give me a break and you contradicted yourself by doing exactly what you're accusing me of , picking & choosing this makes you a hypocrite and not a very bright one on top of that
For months you posted that quote about Ronnie 2001 being unbeatable , yet when McGough states that Ronnie 2001 wouldn't beat Yates at 269 pounds that quote became useless lol you didn't want to play the quote game anymore just like the FACT that Ronnie was never as hard or as dry as Yates then you ignored that quote , just like the quote saying 2001 was his best showing and NOT 2003 as you like to claim once again Neo playing pick & choose what quotes he likes and dislikes , so again you haven't corrected shit and you're a hypocrite to boot and wrong
And while on the topic stop projecting your homoerotic fantasies on me ( rape and high school crush ) what would Freud say? Yates wasn't my hero I wasn't rooting for him in 1993 I wanted Flex Wheeler to win , I would never want to emulate Yates' physique or his training style , he's not my hero this is a lie you love to keep spreading and once again your projecting your fan-boy hero worship of Coleman on me you think every is like you sorry sport not the case
The reason I mentioned the religious section is b/c the posters are generally more intelligent, and I take on a more serious tone when I post there. Luck has nothing to do with it. Ask usmokepole if you don't believe me. You would get verbally raped if you tried the same bullshit antics there.
The reason you mentioned the religious section because you've been getting your ass kicked on on here and feel you'd have better luck else where , and again if your tactics on the truce thread are any indication of your abilities in general you'd get your dumb ass stomped over there as well but don't worry I have no desire to post in the religious section and again you bore me your lucky I'm still responding to you at this point
Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005[/b]
"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable.
Thats been amended
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.And to add insult to injury Yates at 269 pounds is both supersharp and super big so much for that quote and remember Neo using your retard logic you're bound to the quote I posted its all or nothing
John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia[/b]
"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."
I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab
Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.This was Yates at 257 pounds , now imagine him at 269 pounds lol he would dwarf a 244 pound Ronnie Coleman no contest
NOT ONE OF THE ABOVE QUOTES MENTIONS 01 ASC RONNIE LOOKING SMALL. ON THE CONTRARY, THEY ALL COMMENT ON HIS SIZE AND MUSCULARITY.
I wont comment on all the quotes because the above render the rest moot and they don't mention he looks small , but he is especially compared to other showings in 2001 he's comparable in terms of size as 1998 in fact he weighed 247 pounds in 1998 and roughly the same in 2001 he looks lean especially compared to 1999 and forget 2003 , he does look leaps & bounds better for it but make no mistake he looks lean and this isn't compared to a 269 pound Dorian Yates
a better taper is just one of Ronnie's advantages over Dorian. Taper alone doesn't make for a better back just as trap striations alone don't make for a better back.
Taper does NOT make a better back , despite his better taper Coleman's front latspread pales in comparison to Yates , so much for that ' advantage ' that is a straw for you to grasp at and thats it , and it isn't just trap striations nice try at minimizing a clear cut advantage its trap size in general , trap separation from upper to lower and striations to boot ! corrected as usual
Ronnie's lats are fuller and his lower back is thicker. Dorian's erector spinae appear to be missing in some poses.
His lats are fuller ? talk about a blanket statement if by fuller you mean softer sure ( depending on the year ) but the judges have this thing for density when combined with size and Yates wrote the book on it , ontop of having striated and feathered lats that insert lower near the waist more clear cut advantages for Dorian , and his spinal erectors appear to be missing in some poses? LMFAO what is that supposed to prove? that they're not there? again show me one single shot of Ronnie's x-mass tree that surpasses Yates , let me save you the trouble it doesn't exist and we both know , again more clear cut advantages for Yates
and in closing I wanted to touch on the topic of Yates being relegated to second as you claimed , like thats the final word its not its a subjective matter and its already been addressed with Yates coming out on top in 1999 by Team Flex the ' new ' list does not render these quotes moot
Ronnie Coleman 2003 : DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and
DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001
Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates
Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian YatesWhats your excuse now 2001? post ASC
Ellington Darden, Ph.D. " best back - Dorian Yates "FROM MARKUS RUHL
October 2000, FLEX page 166
"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING. HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE. HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"Team Flex 1999 - Dorian Yates best back
Again all Pro-Yates and post retirement so if you think for a single moment this new list is final than you're more stupid than I originally thought
