Has PowerLifting Gone Down Hill

[KillerMonk]

1000 ply shirts,Deadlifts and Squats performed with legs nearly doing the splits, Though the benching is not to bad except for these rediculous shirt suits.Make it mandatory to lift Raw.

To the strongest powerlifters out there you have my respect but would it not be fair to get rid of suits and only lift Raw with proper form.

[The Squadfather]

i don't give a shit how wide your legs are if you squat 1000 pounds or deadlift 850 you're one strong SOB, no doubt about it.

[Ex Coelis]

no, it's just you

[rocket]

It was inevitable that technology would get involved - Human physiology cannot keep up with the needs to progress.

Just another small step on our road to becoming teh borg (or of course, all perishing in the cataclysmic year of 2012).

[240 is Back]

I go to local PLing meets each year.  In person, it's dramatic.  people fail, and they do fail awkwardly at times.

but yeah, the short-limbed people doing very limited ROM while wearing 7 layers of shirt... pointless.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

i don't give a shit how wide your legs are if you squat 1000 pounds or deadlift 850 you're one strong SOB, no doubt about it.

Agreed.

[KillerMonk]

i don't give a shit how wide your legs are if you squat 1000 pounds or deadlift 850 you're one strong SOB, no doubt about it.

I admit its a silly thread considering how many Powerlifters that are on the board but i would like to see what type of lifts these guys can do Raw i suppose your right if you can Deadlift or Squat with out total form, I just be interseted in the difference of the poundages without the suits.
That kid whos thread was on a couple of weeks ago lifting something like 6 plates raw aside on Benchpress was the most impressive piece of lifting i have ever seen.

[Rearden Metal]

i don't give a shit how wide your legs are if you squat 1000 pounds or deadlift 850 you're one strong SOB, no doubt about it.

Yeah, but the bench shirt technology is insulting.

[rocket]

It isn't insulting, it just isn't particularly entertaining.

[wisconsinBB]

Yeah, but the bench shirt technology is insulting.

Agreed!  It is my understanding that there is about a 300 pound difference in the raw record vs. the record where the shirts are allowed, thats just fucking lame.   Its like a fucking high jumper wearing spring loaded shoes or a speed skater wearing some crazy ass wiley coyote acme rocket skates. 

[The Squadfather]

Yeah, but the bench shirt technology is insulting.

i don't give a shit what kind of shirt you're wearing it takes a lot of balls and some SERIOUS strength to get under an 800-900 pound bar.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

True, but then again I'd rather see a 700 pound raw squat than a 800 pound geared squat.

[wisconsinBB]

i don't give a shit what kind of shirt you're wearing it takes a lot of balls and some SERIOUS strength to get under an 800-900 pound bar.

True, but what is the fucking point of the shirt?  

[Triple-H_2005]

True, but what is the fucking point of the shirt?  

Ummm...  To bench.
More.

[No Patience]

shirts and suits to "crutch" a bunch of fat ass fuckers.....powerlifting is
garbage if it is not in natural form

[Croatch]

Powerlifting...for when you don't have good bodybuilding genetics.

[kcballer]

let me first say i am impressed by powerlifters who bench, DL and squat in a more natural form, i.e. no suits and other BS.  I do however, believe that power liftering is insignificant compared to oylmpic lifting.  They don't need or have stupid shirts etc when they go at it, it's just weight vs gravity vs man with little to no assistance from anything else, that's the way powerlifting should be.

[No Patience]

let me first say i am impressed by powerlifters who bench, DL and squat in a more natural form, i.e. no suits and other BS.  I do however, believe that power liftering is insignificant compared to oylmpic lifting.  They don't need or have stupid shirts etc when they go at it, it's just weight vs gravity vs man with little to no assistance from anything else, that's the way powerlifting should be.

speakin the truth!!

[ripitupbaby]

Equipped powerlifting (shirts, suits) is totally and completely different than raw powerlifting.  You train differently, you do the lifts differently, and you use different weights.  

Powerlifting is not going downhill.  Both raw and equipped forms are progressing and evolving.  Take each of them for what they are - both require ALOT of strength, technique, and hard training to be successful - and leave it at that.  

[wisconsinBB]

Equipped powerlifting (shirts, suits) is totally and completely different than raw powerlifting.  You train differently, you do the lifts differently, and you use different weights.  

Powerlifting is not going downhill.  Both raw and equipped forms are progressing and evolving.  Take each of them for what they are - both require ALOT of strength, technique, and hard training to be successful - and leave it at that.  

Of course you train differently, you're wearing a fucking shirt that holds your arms out like a zombie.  Do you know what the purpose of wearing a shirt is?  Can somebody please fucking tell me?

[Rearden Metal]

Of course you train differently, you're wearing a fucking shirt that holds your arms out like a zombie.  Do you know what the purpose of wearing a shirt is?  Can somebody please fucking tell me?

To artificially lift more weight, obviously. Next thing you know they'll invent a pulley system for deadlifts.

[wisconsinBB]

To artificially lift more weight, obviously. Next thing you know they'll invent a pulley system for deadlifts.

THANK YOU.  There is no fucking point to the shirts other than to artificially help you lift more weight.  SHIRTS BLOW ASS

[Thealmightyronald]

I follow bodybuilding much more, but powerlifting impresses the hell out of me. I like seeing raw lifts though. If someone asked me to go a top raw pl'ing meet and one where they can use shirts and suits, i'd go to the raw one. I'd be much more impressed by a guy walking in, chalking up, and getting under 700lbs. The guys that do shirted lifting are mostly just as strong/stronger but I just like watching raw lifts. When someone benches 800+, squats 1000+, and can only deadlift 720, it shows how much the shirts help in the first two lifts.

[ripitupbaby]

Of course you train differently, you're wearing a fucking shirt that holds your arms out like a zombie.  Do you know what the purpose of wearing a shirt is?  Can somebody please fucking tell me?

To lift bigger weight while reducing the potential for injury to the shoulders and delts.  Obviously a raw bench press cannot be compared to a shirted bench press, but you aren't going to see someone get under 800-1,000 pounds and bench it raw without killing themselves in the process.  

Shirts evolved FIRST for injury prevention and have since become the best way to increase your 1RM.  And like someone said already, it takes big balls and a lot of strength to get under that kind of weight, even with the shirt on.  

I don't know why there is a need to discriminate here...I can appreciate both raw and equipped lifting for what they are.   

[kyomu]

To lift bigger weight while reducing the potential for injury to the shoulders and delts.  Obviously a raw bench press cannot be compared to a shirted bench press, but you aren't going to see someone get under 800-1,000 pounds and bench it raw without killing themselves in the process.  

Shirts evolved FIRST for injury prevention and have since become the best way to increase your 1RM.  And like someone said already, it takes big balls and a lot of strength to get under that kind of weight, even with the shirt on.  

I don't know why there is a need to discriminate here...I can appreciate both raw and equipped lifting for what they are.   

Can you tell me your records of three?