FINALLY - the reason DEMS tax more

[240 is Back]

When they take over the white house, there has been 4 or 8 or 12 years of very heavy borrowing and very light taxing.

They can do 1 of 2 things....

They can continue the trend right into bankruptcy, or
They can stop the spending and tax people more to prevent bankruptcy.

I know we all hate Dems for taxing us, but if the Repubs didn't borrow so damn much and hand the dems a big hole to start in, they wouldn't have to.  Thoughts?

[Hugo Chavez]

I know we all hate Dems for taxing us, but if the Repubs didn't borrow so damn much and hand the dems a big hole to start in, they wouldn't have to.  Thoughts?

yup

[shootfighter1]

Very light taxing?  Your crazy!  That was an incorrect statement 240.
The borrowing is a valid point.

[240 is Back]

Very light taxing?  Your crazy!  That was an incorrect statement 240.
The borrowing is a valid point.

repubs tax less than Dems, I conceded that.
Obama will tax us more... but I'd prefer that to waking up one day and finding out we're bankrupt as a nation.

[Brixtonbulldog]

When they take over the white house, there has been 4 or 8 or 12 years of very heavy borrowing and very light taxing.

They can do 1 of 2 things....

They can continue the trend right into bankruptcy, or
They can stop the spending and tax people more to prevent bankruptcy.

I know we all hate Dems for taxing us, but if the Repubs didn't borrow so damn much and hand the dems a big hole to start in, they wouldn't have to.  Thoughts?

Without going into specifics (because conservatives like myself and liberals like you will disagree on what money should go for) I think we can both agree that a great deal or possibly even a majority of our taxes are flushed down the toilet by politicians.  A responsible public official should be able to dispense with funding useless and wasteful programs WITHOUT increasing taxes on an already overtaxes populace and still balance the budget.  The fact that you only see those two options is testament to your true colors.  Weren't you yourself complaining about the use of misleading scare tactics??

[Hugo Chavez]

repubs tax less than Dems, I conceded that.
Obama will tax us more... but I'd prefer that to waking up one day and finding out we're bankrupt as a nation.

yup, either way we the people pay a heavy price, tell me the difference shootfigher.

[Decker]

A Nine trillion dollar debt with interest does not pay for itself.

I don't think anyone enjoys paying taxes yet they are an inevitable part of governmental operation.

[Brixtonbulldog]

A Nine trillion dollar debt with interest does not pay for itself.

I don't think anyone enjoys paying taxes yet they are an inevitable part of governmental operation.

It's not the principle of paying taxes .. it's the amount being demanded by the gov't, or else.

[Hugo Chavez]

Without going into specifics (because conservatives like myself and liberals like you will disagree on what money should go for) I think we can both agree that a great deal or possibly even a majority of our taxes are flushed down the toilet by politicians.  A responsible public official should be able to dispense with funding useless and wasteful programs WITHOUT increasing taxes on an already overtaxes populace and still balance the budget.  The fact that you only see those two options is testament to your true colors.  Weren't you yourself complaining about the use of misleading scare tactics??

boy, you don't get the way washington works   What's that fact testament of?

[Decker]

Without going into specifics (because conservatives like myself and liberals like you will disagree on what money should go for) I think we can both agree that a great deal or possibly even a majority of our taxes are flushed down the toilet by politicians.  A responsible public official should be able to dispense with funding useless and wasteful programs WITHOUT increasing taxes on an already overtaxes populace and still balance the budget.  The fact that you only see those two options is testament to your true colors.  Weren't you yourself complaining about the use of misleading scare tactics??

The federal budget is what, a little over 2 trillion dollars?

The debt is about 9 trillion dollars with interest accruing.

Even if we eliminated all federal expenditures today, we'd still have a problem.

[Brixtonbulldog]

boy, you don't get the way washington works   What's that fact testament of?

Oh i do better than you realize.. that's a statement of the ideal not the reality.

[Hugo Chavez]

It's not the principle of paying taxes .. it's the amount being demanded by the gov't, or else.

yea and in this case, who ran up the debt or else?  Not dems bubba.

[240 is Back]

because conservatives like myself and liberals like you

You're an ignorant fvcker, arent you?


I'm liberal because I possess the moral backbone and honesty to admit when my repub party does something wrong?

[Hugo Chavez]

Oh i do better than you realize.. that's a statement of the ideal not the reality.

yea, and you're shoving the "ideal" in 240's face as an "ah ha, you don't get it" 

[Brixtonbulldog]

You're an ignorant fvcker, arent you?

ah.. got your number, did I?

Who's angry now?

[Hugo Chavez]

ah.. got your number, did I?

Who's angry now?

You know you were baiting it by calling him a lib... Don't play the innocent bullshit here, we see right past the crap.

[240 is Back]

ah.. got your number, did I?

Who's angry now?

aside from dissecting BOTH parties' platforms, what makes you think I'm a lib?

honestly, answer this one...
i'm dying to see what obama's flaws are.  I can't stop talking about clinton's evil.   Mccain is bush 3.  

I hate welfare, love my guns, live in rural FL, own a masters degree, and I'll be hit bad with obama's taxes too.

I'm a republican.  I'm just not a neocon.  ya know?

[Hugo Chavez]

I'm a republican.  I'm just not a neocon.  

he's to young to know the diff.  I think the neocons came in when he was a teen.

[Brixtonbulldog]

yea and in this case, who ran up the debt or else?  Not dems bubba.

And tell me.. aside from Bush who has already not followed traditional conservatism, how much gov't waste goes to things like welfare, huge ineffecient gov't agencies, etc.  Who ran that one up?!?! hmm...

[Brixtonbulldog]

he's to young to know the diff.  I think the neocons came in when he was a teen.

Neocon is a term you guys throw around without really knowing where it came from.  What it really meant years ago were American Jews who turned to the republican side in order to truly support Israel.

I'm a non-religious, libertarian/conservative.

[240 is Back]

aside from dissecting BOTH parties' platforms, what makes you think I'm a lib?

honestly, answer this one...
i'm dying to see what obama's flaws are.  I can't stop talking about clinton's evil.   Mccain is bush 3.  

I hate welfare, love my guns, live in rural FL, own a masters degree, and I'll be hit bad with obama's taxes too.

I'm a republican.  I'm just not a neocon.  ya know?

brix,

I'm a repub.  I debate all issues from all angles.  

To call a lifelong repub a lib is insulting.  That makes you a liar.  You know who else lies?





Libs...

[Brixtonbulldog]

aside from dissecting BOTH parties' platforms, what makes you think I'm a lib?

honestly, answer this one...
i'm dying to see what obama's flaws are.  I can't stop talking about clinton's evil.   Mccain is bush 3.  

I hate welfare, love my guns, live in rural FL, own a masters degree, and I'll be hit bad with obama's taxes too.

I'm a republican.  I'm just not a neocon.  ya know?

Let's start with every post from you between Sept 11, 2001 and about this time last year, huh?

[Hugo Chavez]

And tell me.. aside from Bush who has already not followed traditional conservatism, how much gov't waste goes to things like welfare, huge ineffecient gov't agencies, etc.  Who ran that one up?!?! hmm...

Oh Brother.... Pull your head out of whatever you learned from your highschool gov textbook on the 80's and get in the now will ya.  You want to blame dems on bloated government agencies in the 2000's LOL that is funny knowing what Bush has done... and welfare, please, that's hasn't been an issue since the 80's/early-90's

[240 is Back]

Let's start with every post from you between Sept 11, 2001 and about this time last year, huh?

wanting a full investigation into what happened on 911 isn't a lib position.

It's about solving a crime.

ahhhh is this where your belief comes from?  Youre' one of those brainwashed folks that believes questioning the official story means you're anti-repub, huh?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Oh Brother.... Pull your head out of whatever you learned from your highschool gov textbook on the 80's and get in the now will ya.  You want to blame dems on bloated government agencies in the 2000's LOL that is funny knowing what Bush has done... and welfare, please, that's hasn't been an issue since the 80's/early-90's

Where the hell have you been?  The only reason the gov't is anywhere near as overweight as it is is dems pushing for big gov't for the last 30 years.  It's not even debatable.