Important notice for IFBB Pros - don't do this show!

[240 is Back]

I was there. It was a full house. Wow...cancer...did not know that. How is he?

Prostate cancer returned.  last I heard he was beating it.

[Moosejay]

Prostate cancer returned.  last I heard he was beating it.

damn

[chainsaw]

This is why bodybuilding will never be as big as any other sport, and
will stay stagnent, among other reasons.

It is sad that the ifbb has to be such a controlling force.

If the ifbb was so great, than nobody would want to compete anywhere else.

[Moosejay]

The problem is the specter of such heavy, unchecked drug use

[timfogarty]

Also, I think an amateur can be awarded money and still be an amatuer if it was a non sanctioned event.  Like say a NPC guy goes out and enter some contest at a bar and wins $500.  I don't think that constitutes him as a Pro now.  It was non-sanctioned. 

pro vs amateur has no meaning any more.   before, making any money from your muscles made you a pro.  did personal training, you lost your amateur status.   made money from photos, lost your amateur status.  owned or even worked at a gym, lost your amateur status.

By that standard, not a single national level bodybuilder in the NPC qualifies as an amateur.  Today NHL, NBA, and MLB players compete in the Olympics.

Here is another bodybuilding example, this time at the IFBB World level:  El Shahat Mabrouk (or is it Mabrouk El Shahat?)   Has competed as an amateur at the world level from 1981 through last year.   Been in the World Amateur Championships 16 times, winning his class 9 times, winning the overall in 2003.    But in 1989 competed as a pro in the IFBB's Grand Prix Holland and Grand Prix Finland.

[Stavios]

wow, a rule has been broken.

[Melvin Goodrum]

pro vs amateur has no meaning any more.   before, making any money from your muscles made you a pro.  did personal training, you lost your amateur status.   made money from photos, lost your amateur status.  owned or even worked at a gym, lost your amateur status.

By that standard, not a single national level bodybuilder in the NPC qualifies as an amateur.  Today NHL, NBA, and MLB players compete in the Olympics.

Here is another bodybuilding example, this time at the IFBB World level:  El Shahat Mabrouk (or is it Mabrouk El Shahat?)   Has competed as an amateur at the world level from 1981 through last year.   Been in the World Amateur Championships 16 times, winning his class 9 times, winning the overall in 2003.    But in 1989 competed as a pro in the IFBB's Grand Prix Holland and Grand Prix Finland.

I think everyone's is forgetting about Kai Greene


1994 WNBF World Champion

[Smokincrazy]

I think everyone's is forgetting about Kai Greene


1994 WNBF World Champion

Oh we know your not.  You probably always have those grapefruit fantasies

[kyomu]

As an amatuer you cannot compete for money/prizes...NPC would have to deem you a professional at that point and not be allowed to cm pete in the NPC

Hahahaha! There are several amateur shows which give money prize in Spain. And they are IFBB also. Pathetic BBing world..

[Stavios]

Hahahaha! There are several amateur shows which give money prize in Spain. And they are IFBB also. Pathetic BBing world..

you tell em, my asian sensation (as Waddy would call you  )

[240 is Back]

I think everyone's is forgetting about Kai Greene

1994 WNBF World Champion

Kai?  I know I've heard that name before.

[War-Horse]

Damn IFBB monopoly. 

[HowieW]

Let me give just one example:  Shiloe Steinmetz.  Won the NGA Pro Natural Olympus in 2003.  Entered the WNBF Pro Natural America in 2004.  Also entered the NPC Junior Nationals and IFBB North American in 2004.   Most recently won the heavyweight class of Team Universe in 2007 and came in 15 in the World Amateur Championship.


however I think the real reason for the IFBB Pro League warning is that on the poster hanging at Gold's Venice advertising this contest in Las Vegas it implies that some IFBB pros will be guest posing or otherwise in attendance.   The IFBB is now saying that pros cannot because the contest is not a sanctioned event. 

But back in November I attended Coloso in Mexico City, a non-sanctioned contest held the exact same day as the IFBB Mexican Championships (that was the IFBB's choice, as Coloso has been held at that time for a dozen or so years).   Coloso had an IFBB pro, Gustavo Badell, in attendance, signing autographs, handing out a couple of trophies.  He was even used in the advertisements for the contest.   (I remember he was also on an oxygen tank most of the time I saw him.  sure it's 7000 feet, but come on.   he's suppose to be an athlete.)

if this is really an IFBB rule, then once again, they only enforce it when it's convenient.   

Yup, I agree, if you are going to have rules then enforce them, don't pick and choose how and when.
Howard

[G o a t b o y]

Their giving away cars as prizes, and cash....

Reimbursement is just that....there is a certain number (like $500)that if it's under can be deemed as expenses, or reimbursement, etc....

So you're saying the winner of the Mr. Getbig ($2k) can never compete in the NPC? 

[serpentine007]

Never heard of that show. Where did they come from?!!???

[Chick]

So you're saying the winner of the Mr. Getbig ($2k) can never compete in the NPC? 

Mr Get big doesn't count....it only applies to PHYSIQUE competitions

[Disgusted]

Their giving away cars as prizes, and cash....

Reimbursement is just that....there is a certain number (like $500)that if it's under can be deemed as expenses, or reimbursement, etc....

So is this an NPC rule or an actual law?

[Disgusted]

  Is this for real?

[timfogarty]

sponsored by Ironman Magazine, MulsceMag International, and Gold's Gym, among others. Sounds pretty legit.

[War-Horse]

Id go to see serge nubret....

[Disgusted]

sponsored by Ironman Magazine, MulsceMag International, and Gold's Gym, among others. Sounds pretty legit.

Rumor has it that the NPC contacted the promotor and asked him to sanction the show thru the NPC.  

[stuntmovie]

NAME the athletes on that poster? Will be interesting to see if they are IFBB pros guest posing in a non-sanctioned NPC event.

[Chick]

sponsored by Ironman Magazine, MulsceMag International, and Gold's Gym, among others. Sounds pretty legit.

No one said it wasn't legit...

[War-Horse]

No one said it wasn't legit...

Who is this mystery promoter, that has the money to challenge the fascist weiders!!!