What is the logical pattern that needs to be followed here?
Technically this would have been sound: "Racism is the greatest form of ignorance; of plain and simple, racists are
ignorant! Racists being cowards does not follow in any way from your declamation that racists are ignorant.
What is my cause please tell me this?
trying to force your opinions and conditioned idead on others by referring to everyone who disagrees as 'ignorant', 'racist', etc. does tend to give me the idea that your agenda is to force everyone to concur with your position. That might be construed as having an agenda, in the sense that you are not here for a debate.
Piss-poor spelling hmmm maybe you should spell check your posts but I don't need to point out where you are deficient in this area to make my point.
Neither do I. I just point it out because generally failure in this area bothers me, and is often indicative of an untrained and undisciplined mind. Not great assets in a debate.
You have a problem with people that are against racism you support racism you think racial prejudice is a useful tool.
I have a problem with people who are dead against support of racism, without being open to any form of argument whatsoever. Let me ask you a question: will you ever, even when being completely overwhelmed with irrefutable evidence that racism is normal, admit that maybe you were wrong in your opinion? I have a sneaking suspicion that your conditioning has been too strong, and that you would cling to your beliefs no matter what. THAT is what I have a problem with.
And no, I actually said prejudice is always
incorrect. If you cannot bring yourself to actually read people's posts, you are doing them and yourself a disservice by cluttering a discussion with your responses.
You attack and judge me because I say give respect where it is due. You think you are better than me, how so?[/color]
Well, I cannot take someone seriously who cannot debate, cannot formulate a cogent argument, doesn't bother to use proper spelling and grammar, and is not even ashamed of those problems. So yes, on those points alone I am quantifiably better than you. I suspect there are lots more, but that would be conjecture on my part.
What propaganda? I teach my children to treat everyone with respect, judge the individual is that wrong in your eyes?
You teach your children that racism is unconditionally wrong. When you press your world view in such absolutes, it is not teaching, it is propaganda. Especially because you cannot even explain why racism is always bad.
My hope is that they are better educated and I work hard to give them better than what I had, like my parents tried to give me better than what they had. But you try to tear that down by hurling insults with words like "forcing" "misguided" My children are the future but you try to tear down what I am doing to make yourself feel better about you. Would you rather I teach them be racists? I am breaking the chains that have kept many children from reaching attainable goals according to their abilities. You don't want that you would rather they be less productive and not contribute to society you want them to be a burden.
You are replacing dogma with dogma. The best thing you could do for your children is to teach them
how to think, not
what to think. If you do a good job at the latter, they will be able to figure out for themselves what is true or not.
How do you deduce that I prefer one over the other? Simply because I said prejudice can be a useful tool I hope you revisit my quote because you left out the important part. .
Another attempt to belittle
I did. This is what you wrote:
"Prejudice may be a useful tool racism is not." As you don't know the definition of prejudice, let me help you:
(1): preconceived judgment or opinion (2): an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b: an instance of such judgment or opinion c: an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.Now tell me again why prejudice, an inherently flawed negative opinion, is good?
Racist me? lol
Oh, sorry. Only whitey can be racist, of course. You don't get the irony of your own statements, do you?
That is not what I said at all but face it you are a racist and I don't know why maybe you don't even know why. I can only assume you were taught to be what you are.
Dodge the issue, call opponent racist, claim victory. That's apparently how you were raised, can't really blame you for it.
You are grasping for terms, I never referred to those that hold the jobs you think only "lower-caste" folks hold are of a specific race.
No you didn't. You said that I did, but that is patently untrue. I was speaking of lower-caste people in general, and you automatically assumed I was talking about blacks. THAT IS RACIST. Funny kind of racism too: being a racist against your own race, unconsciously assuming everyone is out to get you.
NB: I am not grasping for terms. I have what is commonly known as a vocabulary. It comes from reading books. Give it a go.
Just note: I didn't put you there, you crawled under it yourself. Now that's funny! But what is really funny is that you are probably young and have not experienced this world outside of your comfort zone and all you have is what someone taught you in a classroom maybe this is why you think you are better than others. Actually it's not funny it's sad. I am making a difference, are you?
This dodge isn't even funny, try harder next time. Maybe even try to address the point I made. Too difficult to disprove?
And no, I won't also fall into the trap of claiming authority. You can go ahead and convince yourself that you are older, wiser, better educated, richer, more caring, and whatever you think is important. You see, in a discussion it is about truth. Truth is universal. If something I say is incorrect according to you, then you should easily be able to prove that it is so. If you cannot, but opt to make yourself look more important by claiming superiority on unrelated fields, then there is no argument. Evidently you only have instincts and conditioning with which to respond, not facts, not logical arguments, nothing.
Well you may call racism a great survival technique. I think examples will better explain this.
I will give one then I have to go. "JIM CROW"
Educate me, as I only know the name.
I have a telcon I will be back.
Oh, wow, you have telcos? You must be a major business man! Suddenly all your points are believed! Again: quite a lame attempt at an appeal to authority.
