Bay, why do you ignore Nycbull's many telling points and persuasive arguments?
He gets Vince Basile syndrome every now and then...
hahaha,I do, and feel very ignored, but at least some of you are reading my posts. cause you cant change people that dont want to have an open honest discourse...Bay has SEX on the Brain, and that is fine for his private life, but it skews his perspective of the rest of the world...He believes he is so self improtant that everyone everwhere has some interest in gays, or wants to have gay sex....
This kind of belief is just as dangerous as hate filled homophopbia and creates just as much polarity and division in society and always leads to violence.Bay does not have the numbers to back up his claims. Even if 10 percent of magazine subscribers were gay, that would hardly make it a gay magazine. SInce there are 3-5 percent of us in the general populaiont, 10 -20 percent is a generours number to give, but even giving that number it is not cause to declare bodybyilding gay.
Bay if you have any other statistics please bring them forward. Also, please be honest, I dont know who you hang around with but do your friends subscribe to MD, FLex and whack off to it???....Because I bodybuild with my gay friends and not one of us subscribes to those magazines. I dont know too many gay men that find shaved, primadonna, insecure, vain, metrosexuals, drug dependendent men, very masculine. I prefer a good 70's Colt Catalouge any day.
The fact is that bodybuilding today is the furthest away from gay culture that it has been since the early 1980's. Since the 90's gays have divorced their obsession and love of the sport. You will not find any post 1990 imagery of bodbuilders in gay clubs or magazines. YOu will find mostly stuff from the more wholesome times, 80,s 70.s 60.s..Most gay men are clueless as to what is going on today in bodybuildng, they dont care like many other people who think the bodyies are no longer aesthetic.
It is important to point out that the imagaery in bb magazines is anything but gay. The magazine style departments must be living in the dark ages, pumping out garish obnoxious over the top extreme imagery assaulting the senses. In fact they could learn a little style if they would actually hire a gay graphic artists.
So if the artists arent gay then how do you explain the provocative pictorials and daisy dukes and flannel shirts in pictorials? ...Easy those icons of fashion represent times in americas history when men were considerered macho, they were farmers, and lumberjacks, and cowboys and motocycle gangs. Those days are long gone but the fasion icons still remain today as representations of strength of the real macho male, the real blue collar manly man....Anyone has free license to use these iconic images as they see fit. ...Gays do not own those representations and it is arrogant to believe they do, It is very homocentric of Bay to believe everytime he sees a man photographed in a cut off flannel that the intention is to get him horny....It is self absorbed and very perverse if you ask me....
Art should never be bound by the warped trappings of one group of people. Art is for all to interpret on their own.Its time for Bay to look at bodybuilding outside his homocentric point of view and acknowldge the vast number of straigt men involved in the sport and that the macho imagery and costuming has nothing to do with homosexual sex, they are just paradigms of macho cultures used for effect and enhancement juxtposed on current day muscle men.
They are not gay nor straight. Just enjoy the art. Let go of your trappings.
