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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #75 on: April 16, 2008, 06:36:10 PM »
look you fat fvck - i have read your advice/regurgitation of other peoples work on various bb forums and yes you have told wannabe 'clients' ::) that if their recovery is poor, do one straight set to failure instead of the rest pauses - if i had the time to spare i would search for it over via google, but frankly i dont give a fvck. what you claim. i know you said it.

as for your admitance that you did indeed steal parillo's work i am glad. its about time, now if only you'll admit you stole mentzers ideas too, along with phil hernons and vince girondas, then maybe you'll get some respect from me.

as for me typing padilla,  ::) that was simply a freudian slip, since i have been reading alot on the 81 mr o lately, but yes i can see why you pounced on it rather than answer bluto's question, it was the easy option  - for a liar, and charlatan like yourself.

tell me dante are you doing any shows soon?

or will you keep up the delusional pretense for a while then start postiing your excuses - i tried to diet for a show 4 times this year but, i got sick, i got busy at work, i got too many training clients, you got busy eating crispy cremes more like it.

also for someone who claims washing mince reduces calories - why are you such a fat piece of shit?

that is all.


Easy there little bud.. Why are you getting so hostile? Here is an idea. You and Dante sit down, and see who has more knowledge about bodybuilding. I'm talking all facets of this sport. Needless to say, you wouldn't last 1 mintute son. Buck up and start being mature. But then again, this is getbig. :-\

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2008, 07:09:42 PM »
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nice response resort to insults ..... :-\

yes, it was a nice responce, to his insult  ::) - do you take insults without replying?


Easy there little bud.. Why are you getting so hostile? Here is an idea. You and Dante sit down, and see who has more knowledge about bodybuilding. I'm talking all facets of this sport. Needless to say, you wouldn't last 1 mintute son. Buck up and start being mature. But then again, this is getbig. :-\

ok pops  ::) i'll do that.

funny how you know nothing about me yet make judgements about my knowledge?

here's something to think about - do some research about a guy called ironman - this guy invented a super workout, with great ideas, that many tried and got great results from. Many swore by it and said they made the best gains of their life on it. This guy had spent quite some time building up credibility and respect for his ideas. his threads were huge - not cycles for pennies huge, but still huge. 


then he pissed dante off by disagreeing on something, dante took it apon himself to ehunt this guy down (a bit like he tried with squad not long ago) -  he traced this guys i.p. and discovered he was a newbie, who just a few months earlier was asking the most basic of questions on sites all over the net - dante outed him as being a liar and stealer of other peoples ideas on pro muscle and ironman site. the guy vanished and has never been heard of again., most of his threads were deleted - not all, but most, as the people who listened to his theories were made fools of.

now tell me, if dante never found out he was a fraud, he'd be the new doggcrapp, his ironman hit as it was called would be the workout of choice for thousands of bbers everywhere.

and guys like you would be telling people like me who question ideas to buck up ::)

     Bro I know your Mike Mentzers biggest fan and you have a seizure anytime anyone dents your heroic love for the guy. I have never ever read a Mike Mentzer article or book in my life. After talking to Dan Duchaine about the guy back in the day and hearing things like "The guys a bonafide nutjob, drugs upon drugs upon drugs with the most addictive personality around to just about anything put in front of him, "caught in front of golds in his underwear", rumors of "drinking his own urine", wandering the streets in a complete daze drooling".......I didnt really think much of the person to look into his literary works. I dont have to label what my thoughts are just because every HIT disciple out there thinks they OWN anything they percieve as low volume. I am not even low volume. Ive said this too many times to count (cut and pasted below).  I just dont count warmup sets--its that simple.

(cut and pasted)

If i got a big superheavy who is advanced and needs work on his chest

he might do something like this

incline barbell
135
185
225
275
315
365 x rp

then widowmaker exercise

flat flex press
135
185
225 x 24

thats 9 sets if you want to count it like most do

when i see Chris Cormier doing this

incline barbell
135
225
315
405 x 6

flat dumbells
100
130
150

Pek Dek
100
140
175

thats 10 sets--whats the difference--noone would ever say chris cormier does low volume

It drives me nuts when people try to categorize this as low volume or HIT---It is what it is and it sure as hell isnt HIT

I could just as well count warmup sets like everyone else does and it would change the mentality of the whole thing over the years"


Rest pause? Read about it in a Weider book on bodybuilding back in the day = 6 singles with maximum weight. I started breaking up sets in the early 90's starting with about 2 breaks and went up to about 7 of them before settling on 3 failure points on the way to 11-15 reps being the most productive. Has absolutely nothing to do with Mike Mentzer, nothing. Not even remotely close. I dont have much of an ego so thinking back I thought whats this most like? It seemed most like rest pause training as described in the Weider book back in the 80's so Ill just call it Rest Pause training instead of "Dante's patented 3 failure on the way to 11-15 reps training"....I dont give a crap.

IM sorry man but from what Ive heard, I think your hero was 2 hotdogs short of a dozen eggs. MG told me he hired him back in the day and the guy wanted him to hit one bodypart once a month or he would overtrain. WHAT?!?! Holy OCD. Train 12 times a year? IM the complete polar opposite of that. I want someone to train bodyparts as often as possible.

Stretching? Hell yea--Parillo all the way---no doubt the forefather of that. Absolutely and thats why you have seen me repeatedly quote Jon Parillo's name in print....as recently as Flex magazine and Musclemag Int'l but I guess you missed those issues with your daily prayer at the Mike Mentzer shrine. I believe in progressive weights and warming up thru 135 225 315 405 etc (whether it takes 3 or 55 warmup sets) to get there and I dont like to count warmups--yet believe in going all out on the last set.....and your hero doesnt own the rights to that (every bodybuilder who has ever trained hard owns the rights to that).  Mentzer does own the rights to drinking his own urine though, and stumbling thru the streets in his underwear.

mentzer was a legend, an outside the box thinker, a gentleman and a champion.

you are nothing but another ironman, and you know it, you just got lucky there wasn't a getbig back then to expose you for what you are.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2008, 07:12:41 PM »
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yes, it was a nice responce, to his insult  ::) - do you take insults without replying?

ok pops  ::) i'll do that.

funny how you know nothing about me yet make judgements about my knowledge?

here's something to think about - do some research about a guy called ironman - this guy invented a super workout, with great ideas, that many tried and got great results from. Many swore by it and said they made the best gains of their life on it. This guy had spent quite some time building up credibility and respect for his ideas. his threads were huge - not cycles for pennies huge, but still huge. 


then he pissed dante off by disagreeing on something, dante took it apon himself to ehunt this guy down (a bit like he tried with squad not long ago) -  he traced this guys i.p. and discovered he was a newbie, who just a few months earlier was asking the most basic of questions on sites all over the net - dante outed him as being a liar and stealer of other peoples ideas on pro muscle and ironman site. the guy vanished and has never been heard of again., most of his threads were deleted - not all, but most, as the people who listened to his theories were made fools of.

now tell me, if dante never found out he was a fraud, he'd be the new doggcrapp, his ironman hit as it was called would be the workout of choice for thousands of bbers everywhere.

and guys like you would be telling people like me who question ideas to buck up ::)

mentzer was a legend, an outside the box thinker, a gentleman and a champion.

you are nothing but another ironman, and you know it, you just got lucky there wasn't a getbig back then to expose you for what you are.


And you know NOTHING about Dante. He is a good man, and a professional at that. I am not saying that Mentzer wasn't a legend. But don't attack Dante.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2008, 07:20:28 PM »

And you know NOTHING about Dante. He is a good man, and a professional at that. I am not saying that Mentzer wasn't a legend. But don't attack Dante.

i attacked in defence of myself, after an unwarented slur on my character. nothing more.

and i know enough about dante to get me by, dont let it trouble you grandpa.

i also know you should remove his penis from your ass, before it gets stuck. :-*

hope this helps.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2008, 07:22:08 PM »
post up some of this iron man's theories.. you caught my interest

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2008, 07:29:40 PM »
i attacked in defence of myself, after an unwarented slur on my character. nothing more.

and i know enough about dante to get me by, dont let it trouble you grandpa.

i also know you should remove his penis from your ass, before it gets stuck. :-*

hope this helps.


Good one.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2008, 07:33:32 PM »
Bout 12 years ago I was training a friend of mine for his first show. He was poor.  :'(  So, he took bout 2 grams of test a week. Closer to the show he took some dbol and that was it!! No anti E's but would have if he could have afforded it. Anyway, he won the lightweights and was the hardest guy in the show.

Two grams (2000mg) of test a week + d-bol to weigh in at 154 lbs? Awesome!  :-\   ;D

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2008, 07:39:02 PM »
Dante is the man, no denying that.  Stand-up guy, with a great reputation.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2008, 08:54:22 PM »
Dante is the man, no denying that.  Stand-up guy, with a great reputation.

Amen 240. He knows what the hell he's doing, and for that he gets flack. Cause dc training works. Until somebody tries it CORRECTLY, they don't know what they are missing.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2008, 04:40:07 AM »
so wait here is dante admitting that all his ideas are from weider etc?

doesnt he bring anything new to the table?

isnt that what you do - you either come up with something original or you greatly improve of something old?

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2008, 04:57:45 AM »
i attacked in defence of myself, after an unwarented slur on my character. nothing more.

and i know enough about dante to get me by, dont let it trouble you grandpa.

i also know you should remove his penis from your ass, before it gets stuck. :-*

hope this helps.
why are you so angry?

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2008, 05:18:33 AM »
Two grams (2000mg) of test a week + d-bol to weigh in at 154 lbs? Awesome!  :-\   ;D

Im glad someone else caught that. :o

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2008, 11:18:16 AM »
Having read this thread hoping to learn from Dante's years of practical hands-on knowledge I feel I must comment.

Bluto and FatPanda (assuredly a Bluto gimmick judging from the identical syntax, grammar; vocabulary and post structure... sorry Bluto but subterfuge is for smart people), you attack Dante for bringing nothing new to the table... well let's consider what your two accounts have brought to this discussion:

-opinionated dismissal of ideas you refuse to read
-militantly derisive misunderstanding
-ad hominem attacks and name calling
-thread hijacking obfuscation
-illogical arguing
-and ignorance.... lots and lots of ignorance; training ignorance, nutritional ignorance, bodybuilding ignorance


...don't apologise, don't attempt to explain your point of view, don't invite Dante to better detail his theories... just leave the thread for good and stick to posting new topics in which your only contribution is the thread title and the word "discuss".


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PS-Dante, please post the full thread/article if possible

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2008, 11:20:24 AM »
Having read this thread hoping to learn from Dante's years of practical hands-on knowledge I feel I must comment.

Bluto and FatPanda (assuredly a Bluto gimmick judging from the identical syntax, grammar; vocabulary and post structure... sorry Bluto but subterfuge is for smart people), you attack Dante for bringing nothing new to the table... well let's consider what your two accounts have brought to this discussion:

-opinionated dismissal of ideas you refuse to read
-militantly derisive misunderstanding
-ad hominem attacks and name calling
-thread hijacking obfuscation
-illogical arguing
-and ignorance.... lots and lots of ignorance; training ignorance, nutritional ignorance, bodybuilding ignorance


...don't apologise, don't attempt to explain your point of view, don't invite Dante to better detail his theories... just leave the thread for good and stick to posting new topics in which your only contribution is the thread title and the word "discuss".


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PS-Dante, please post the full thread/article if possible

spot on even if I think you're a little nutty for thinking you look as good as Labrada, you hit the nail on the head with that post.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2008, 11:21:23 AM »
Having read this thread hoping to learn from Dante's years of practical hands-on knowledge I feel I must comment.

Bluto and FatPanda (assuredly a Bluto gimmick judging from the identical syntax, grammar; vocabulary and post structure... sorry Bluto but subterfuge is for smart people), you attack Dante for bringing nothing new to the table... well let's consider what your two accounts have brought to this discussion:

-opinionated dismissal of ideas you refuse to read
-militantly derisive misunderstanding
-ad hominem attacks and name calling
-thread hijacking obfuscation
-illogical arguing
-and ignorance.... lots and lots of ignorance; training ignorance, nutritional ignorance, bodybuilding ignorance


...don't apologise, don't attempt to explain your point of view, don't invite Dante to better detail his theories... just leave the thread for good and stick to posting new topics in which your only contribution is the thread title and the word "discuss".


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PS-Dante, please post the full thread/article if possible

wanna bet?

$1000 panda isnt my gimmick you game?

either that or apologize. your call.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2008, 11:23:17 AM »
spot on even if I think you're a little nutty for thinking you look as good as Labrada, you hit the nail on the head with that post.



and ill happy to include you in the bet as well.

lemme know where you stand.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2008, 11:24:11 AM »
wanna bet?

$1000 panda isnt my gimmick you game?

either that or apologize. your call.


bluto I usually don't have an issue with you but you're really coming off like a tool to me in this thread.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #92 on: April 17, 2008, 11:25:35 AM »
wanna bet?

$1000 panda isnt my gimmick you game?

either that or apologize. your call.

...I'm sorry both you and FatPanda are so moronic and facetious that you appear to be the same person using two accounts to attack those who disagree with him when he knows he can't outsmart them or win the argument.


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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #93 on: April 17, 2008, 11:28:18 AM »
bluto I usually don't have an issue with you but you're really coming off like a tool to me in this thread.

and you're coming off as a asskisser and obsessed with dante, just because that's your CURRENT training routine

and dont go tell someone that' he's "spot on" when he just made a complete fool of himself accusing panda to be my gimmick, that means you agree with it.

dante started things off by saying the old stuff wasnt even worth posting because - well it was old. which translates to = its no longer of any value.

so all i did was ask him what he brought to the table since then (and why the old stuff wasnt worth talking about anymore)

dante, well he comes off as full of himself and disrespectful, defensive and constantly in meltdown-mode.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #94 on: April 17, 2008, 11:39:15 AM »
...I'm sorry both you and FatPanda are so moronic and facetious that you appear to be the same person using two accounts to attack those who disagree with him when he knows he can't outsmart them or win the argument.


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if you wanna talk about something ive said, be specific.

if you just wanna kiss dantes ass, you have succeed in that.

if you wanna make a fool outta yourself, by accusing me of using panda as a gimmick, you done that too. congrats "the luke"

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« Reply #95 on: April 17, 2008, 11:48:03 AM »
and you're coming off as a asskisser and obsessed with dante, just because that's your CURRENT training routine

and dont go tell someone that' he's "spot on" when he just made a complete fool of himself accusing panda to be my gimmick, that means you agree with it.

dante started things off by saying the old stuff wasnt even worth posting because - well it was old. which translates to = its no longer of any value.

so all i did was ask him what he brought to the table since then (and why the old stuff wasnt worth talking about anymore)

dante, well he comes off as full of himself and disrespectful, defensive and constantly in meltdown-mode.

oh settle down.  take a few deep breaths, I meant he was spot on with both of you guys with the way you're responding to dante's posts not that you guys are gimmick accounts, I could care less about that stuff.  if you're a gimmick...great, I don't give a fuck and I've never had any run ins with fatpanda that I can remember.

like dante said if you don't like it don't do the program, it's probably a little to rough for you anyway. :o
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2008, 11:50:03 AM »
This thread has gotten very entertaining. ;D

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2008, 11:53:53 AM »


like dante said if you don't like it don't do the program, it's probably a little to rough for you anyway. :o

oh my bad i thought we had the right to discuss dantes program in a thread about dantes program on a msg board... but apparantely neither you or dante want to discuss it, yet you come here and post every day.

doesnt make much sense to me.
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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2008, 11:55:51 AM »
Bluto,

I don't want to start a hissy fit here... but please correct me if I'm wrong as I wouldn't want to confuse you with someone else.

Aren't you the newbie trainer guy who posts new threads announcing his latest fad training regimens every couple of months? Isn't your current routine high volume workouts with two muti-hour workouts per day? One workout in the morning and another in the evening? Aren't you one of these two-pound dumbbell mega-giant set trainers who takes Milos Sarcev seriously? Aren't you the guy who has racked up 25,000 posts in record time here on GetBig with practically none of them being of any value?



If this actually is you, please go play... the grown-ups are talking.

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Re: FOUND: The COMPLETE Dante Pennies Article - this is gold!
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2008, 11:59:51 AM »


Aren't you the newbie trainer guy who posts new threads announcing his latest fad training regimens every couple of months?

no

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Isn't your current routine high volume workouts with two muti-hour workouts per day? One workout in the morning and another in the evening?

no

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Aren't you one of these two-pound dumbbell mega-giant set trainers who takes Milos Sarcev seriously?

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Aren't you the guy who has racked up 25,000 posts in record time here on GetBig with practically none of them being of any value?

no, ive posted since 2004. have you read them all? you must have otherwise you couldnt comment on their value.


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