Vince Basile: You seem to harbour much bitterness towards Chick!

[Moosejay]

Masters Bob...lol.

I look at that and think 'drug cheat'.  Needed to shoot needles in the butt as motivation to train.

Look outstanding there, whatever else anyone may say or think. Is what it is.

[pkaz]

No one gives a fuck who inspired you...

Yeah, please Basile....stop those lethal blows your firing...I can't take it no more

I'm ashamed of nothing....

You'll learn nothing because you're a fat, retarded old blowhard who can't even debate with any semblence of intelligence...

Still waiting for your outline of how BB will become popular and accepted by ther mainstream when it'd drug tested...3rd time requested.

Second this------"fat, retarded old blowhard"----living in the past..... It is 2008 isnt it??

[Chick]

Masters Bob...lol.

I look at that and think 'drug cheat'.  Needed to shoot needles in the butt as motivation to train.

I assume you look at any bodybuilder in the same light, correct?

BTW, steroids don't diet for you, do 2 hours of cardio a day, lift your weights.

My motivation was being successful...and I was.

[Moosejay]

How has the Media taken to your stories Vince any progress?Like many have said mention Arnold and how he promotes a show that Rewards the heaviest Drug users now that is a story in itself.

Melt...however true that may be...the political ramifications...however indirect or direct...of attacking someone of Arnold's status would have more dire circumstances to the deliverer of such a blow than to the recipient...believe that wholeheartedly.

[Chick]

How has the Media taken to your stories Vince any progress?Like many have said mention Arnold and how he promotes a show that Rewards the heaviest Drug users now that is a story in itself.

Gotta be honest, bro,..you're becoming tiresome and obsessed sounding.

Vince has no credability to go to any media...they would think he's just as big a fool as the people here do.

[New Hank Wood]

I assume you look at any bodybuilder in the same light, correct?

BTW, steroids don't diet for you, do 2 hours of cardio a day, lift your weights.

My motivation was being successful...and I was.

Are you serious?  

When you artificially elevate your test levels, aggression and focus is also elevated. Hence, greater motivation to train as 'results' come more easily.

Take away 'the test' and you take away the 'aggression and focus' to train.

Bob, you are motivated by the 'results' that come from using steroids. Being natural takes a different kind of effort and commitment; as 'results' invariably plateau.  

You choose to go the 'chemical route' because you do not like the natural plateaus.

Bob, if you could only accept 'you' for 'being you' then you would have 'no need' to use steroids.  

Now, do you understand what  the term 'drug cheat' is referring to ?

[Moosejay]

I assume you look at any bodybuilder in the same light, correct?

BTW, steroids don't diet for you, do 2 hours of cardio a day, lift your weights.

My motivation was being successful...and I was.

Yes.

This is very profound.

It is EXTREMELY hard being successful in endeavors in which few actually excel.

I mean, you can be successful eating your lunch each day.

Millions are successful this way.

But to become a champion in ANYTHING...a WORLD champion....it takes much more than the one thing so many are caught upon here....

[Moosejay]

Yeah...he was in the men's open.

They put a pic of both of us in Flex a few months ago...

Yes...I saw that. I don't think Rock placed in the open

[Moosejay]

Are you serious?  When you artificially elevate your test levels, aggression and focus is also elevated. Hence, greater motivation to train as 'results' come more easily. Take away 'the test' and you take away the 'aggression and focus' to train.
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Bob, you are motivated by the 'results' that come from using steroids. Being natural takes effort and commitment and a long term belief, as 'results' invariably plateau.  

You choose to go the 'chemical route' because you do not like the natural plateaus and because it makes it easier to stay focused and in the zone.

Bob, if you could only accept 'you' for 'being you' then you would have no need to use steroids.  

Now do you understand what  the term 'drug cheat' is referring to now?

The top boxers in the world do not come out of Yale University, drinking tea...

They have 'agression and focus' as they harness it from the angst of childhoods that would have been better off never being lived.

They use this 'agression and focus' to pummel the hell out of their foes.

So if you think 'aggressiion and focus' only comes out of a vial...you are very wrong and are woefully averse to seeing any position other than your own,

Peace to you anyway

[Vince B]

Why shouldn't the public accept natural, muscular physiques? They surely don't accept the drug assisted ones.

Steeve Reeves as Hercules was hugely popular in 59-60. Millions of guys like myself were inspired to look like him. I doubt many young guys want to look like Yates, Coleman or Cutler.

[Meltdown]

Chick you say I am Obsessed No more Obsessed than a Pro getting ready for a show and running out of gear.You make light of Vince going to the Media but you and I know it only takes one whistle blower and the IFBB is Fuked.I don't Fukin care about Drug use it's that Benign Fukin Drug Rule they the IFBB have that I want GONE.DELETE the Fukin Rule.Why the Fuk would a Rep let a Power to be have the upper hand of using a Rule when they choose to.FFS get it deleted do something right.

[Vince B]

The problem here, folks, is this.

[Meltdown]

Fukin Puppets and Money is the PROBLEM.

[The ChemistV2]

Yes.

This is very profound.

It is EXTREMELY hard being successful in endeavors in which few actually excel.

I mean, you can be successful eating your lunch each day.

Millions are successful this way.

But to become a champion in ANYTHING...a WORLD champion....it takes much more than the one thing so many are caught upon here....

Excellent post my friend. You truly have keen insight.

[Chick]

Are you serious?  

When you artificially elevate your test levels, aggression and focus is also elevated. Hence, greater motivation to train as 'results' come more easily.

Take away 'the test' and you take away the 'aggression and focus' to train.

Bob, you are motivated by the 'results' that come from using steroids. Being natural takes a different kind of effort and commitment; as 'results' invariably plateau.  

You choose to go the 'chemical route' because you do not like the natural plateaus.

Bob, if you could only accept 'you' for 'being you' then you would have 'no need' to use steroids.  

Now, do you understand what  the term 'drug cheat' is referring to ?

I had plenty of motovation as I trained and competed for many years drug free...the motivation doesn't increase or decrease with the use of drugs...It's obviuos you've never stepped on a competitive stage...

I chose the "chemical route" for the simple fact that it was necessary in order to be competitive with everyone else who chose that route...an even playing field.

If everyone is using, then no one is cheating.

[Chick]

Why shouldn't the public accept natural, muscular physiques? They surely don't accept the drug assisted ones.

Steeve Reeves as Hercules was hugely popular in 59-60. Millions of guys like myself were inspired to look like him. I doubt many young guys want to look like Yates, Coleman or Cutler.

Still waiting for your answer, Basile.....I've asked 4 times now

I don't know, Basile...why wasn't it accepted in YOUR day? Freaks are freaks...no matter what the era. The freaks of your time were no more accepted than today...the athletes took whatever drugs were available at that time...had GH and IGF, etc been around then, you can bt your as they would have been pounding it down...

[New Hank Wood]

I had plenty of motovation as I trained and competed for many years drug free...the motivation doesn't increase or decrease with the use of drugs...It's obviuos you've never stepped on a competitive stage...

I chose the "chemical route" for the simple fact that it was necessary in order to be competitive with everyone else who chose that route...an even playing field.

If everyone is using, then no one is cheating.

Fair call.  I respect your honesty.

[Vince B]

I chose the "chemical route" for the simple fact that it was necessary in order to be competitive with everyone else who chose that route...an even playing field.

If everyone is using, then no one is cheating.

Bob, you must be the only athletes rep in sport who can make this disgraceful statement.

[Meltdown]

Drug use is still ILLEGAL wake the Fuk Up.

[Chick]

Bob, you must be the only athletes rep in sport who can make this disgraceful statement.

Why did you do it, Basile?

Still looking for your answer.....5th time asked.

[alejandro_torres]

Why shouldn't the public accept natural, muscular physiques? They surely don't accept the drug assisted ones.

Steeve Reeves as Hercules was hugely popular in 59-60. Millions of guys like myself were inspired to look like him. I doubt many young guys want to look like Yates, Coleman or Cutler.

and you are saying he didnt use steroids?

and i will have NO FUCKING PROBLEM TO LOOK LIKE RON

THAT IS WHY WE ARE BODYBUILDERs, YOU OLD FUCK

[Meltdown]

Here is a question for you Bob are steroids banned by the IFBB????Simple question.Then if so how the Fuk can EVERYONE FUKIN USE THEM?.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Moosejay]

Excellent post my friend. You truly have keen insight.

Thanks chem.,..I am surprised more do not see this

[alejandro_torres]

steroids are not to be used... doesnt the "rule" says that?

[Chick]

Here is a question for you Bob are steroids banned by the IFBB????Simple question.Then if so how the Fuk can EVERYONE FUKIN USE THEM?.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Same way people cheat on their taxes...don;t get caught.