Author Topic: Gaining muscle as a Natural after 30, as impossible as everyone says?  (Read 17118 times)

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not being able to put on muscle as a natural after 30 = bullshit.

you can do it, you just have to make adjustments and be realistic.

you won't gain 20-30lbs of muscle in a year but you'll never do that as a natty but you can still get better.
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Gaining muscle as a Natural after 30, as impossible as everyone says?

Come on...
After 55, you still can make gaining muscle http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.msg2960234#msg2960234

What age were you when you think you reached your peak level of muscle mass, or are you still getting bigger at 55?

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What age were you when you think you reached your peak level of muscle mass, or are you still getting bigger at 55?
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You will do well at this years Mr Getbig.

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What age were you when you think you reached your peak level of muscle mass, or are you still getting bigger at 55?
good question
my peak level of muscle "mass" ?
I think maybe early 40s  ::)

muscle "mass" is important ,but not everything.
And bodybuilding is how you look ?not how much your measurement or how much you can lift ?






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My Father is in his early 70s and has gained 20 pounds to his 6ft frame since training 2 years ago without gaining an inch on his waist.
He has peaked he cannot lift any heavier now for the last 6 months and no HRT.
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Ofc. it's possible. But i recommend to take upto 500Mg of testosterone (2.5 month cycles) Along with some HCG/Nolva etc. to eliminate gyno and other possible side-effects. There is absolutely no reason to train natural when you have access to some injectables.

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Depends when you start. If you start lifting in your 30s, you'll be able to put on some muscle. However, if you're like me, and started when you were 15, by the time you're in your mid 20s, you basically are what you are. After that, the gains you make are in refinement, rather than size, and that's fine because, as you get older and slower, carrying around extra weight whether it be muscle or fat becomes a burden.

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thanks for clearing that out guys.

i've always wondered about all those guys at the gyms that look the same year after year

turned out - it was you  ;D
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thanks for clearing that out guys.

i've always wondered about all those guys at the gyms that look the same year after year

turned out - it was you  ;D
For an old fart like me ,it's great to look the same year after year  ;D ;D

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For an old fart like me ,it's great to look the same year after year  ;D ;D

absolutely, when youre in your 50s

but these guys havent put on any muscle since their 20's  :-\
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Depends when you start. If you start lifting in your 30s, you'll be able to put on some muscle. However, if you're like me, and started when you were 15, by the time you're in your mid 20s, you basically are what you are. After that, the gains you make are in refinement, rather than size, and that's fine because, as you get older and slower, carrying around extra weight whether it be muscle or fat becomes a burden.

very very true and good post

Carry less weight as you get older

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I have more lean mass now at 45(all natural) then I did at 30, and I've been training since I was 12. I do not agree that you can't gain muscle naturally after 30. If you train properly, eat enough protein, take the right food supplements and recuperate from your workouts, you can still grow without drugs.There are some natural supplements that will keep your hormones at youthful levels.

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not being able to put on muscle as a natural after 30 = bullshit.

you can do it, you just have to make adjustments and be realistic.

you won't gain 20-30lbs of muscle in a year but you'll never do that as a natty but you can still get better.

Who said you can't do that as a natty?

Granted, that's more likely to happen to a beginner in his teens. But, a well-trained, well-fed, and well-rested body will indeed grow, with or without anabolics.

Considering I broke the 400-lb bench press barrier and pushed my arms over 18 inches at age 32, drug-free, this whole idea of not being to gain muscle in your 30s without drugs is for the birds.


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I have more lean mass now at 45(all natural) then I did at 30, and I've been training since I was 12. I do not agree that you can't gain muscle naturally after 30. If you train properly, eat enough protein, take the right food supplements and recuperate from your workouts, you can still grow without drugs.There are some natural supplements that will keep your hormones at youthful levels.

Suggestions, please.
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Suggestions, please.

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I like it when GH15 speaks the truth.
But I donīt like it when he makes me feel like complete shit after reading his posts lol!

well the truth is the truth ,,,like musclecenter said what you do post 30 is basically aintaining what you already have naturally or in other words TRYING TO MAINTAIN,,when you get to age 30 you have no more gains as in true muscle gains not balooning up the physiqe but true muscle gains,,you still may be able to push heavy lifting with a lot less intensity ofcourse comparing to when you were 25 but the main thing is ...this heavy 300+ becnh you will do as natural wont put nothing on you ,,,strength DOES NOT = muscle,,this is very important for you to understand ,,

strength DOES NOT EQUAL MUSCLE,,the most impressive bodybuilders are indeed the ones who are also powerlifters but there are not many of them,,when it comes to the average bodybuilder the best LOOKING bodybuilders lift moderate weight,,always notice in yoru gym ...the guys who lift the heaviiest do not have the biggest muscles,,

many of the natural fellas do a severe mistake by trying to lift very heavy ,,they do not understand that 99% of bodybuilders that got somewhere EVEN ON HORMONES did not build it on very heavy lifting

rare are the ron colmans,,usually very heavy lifting for most bodybuilders = torn muscle ,,baloon egos,,flat muscle look same effect as duretic in the look department,,when a bodybuilder is also a power lifter as in have the ability to do both and respond to both they USUALLY become a champion as in  mr o etc,,dorian and ron are good examples,,inorder to do both you need hormones and lots of consistancy with hormones,,

since this is abotu naturals ,,the natural need to know that past 26 he can forget abotu new muscle,,he needs to adjust training inregards to heavy lifting and bring it down to moderate ,,and he also need as natural to rest a lot more,,to pay very close attention to diet and to forget about social life,,its simply not worth it to stay natural in bodybuilding just because skip lied he was natural and you think you have a chance to look like his hormonized self,,

every natural should look twards gh and experiemtn with igf inorder to atleast gain something out of his bodybuilding,,my recomendation for naturals is that past 26 they go on simple stack of dianabol test and deca and see what happens,,by the way most naturals do this for sometime and stop copeting ..then come back at age 30 and claim for natural stuatus ...see croches and roaches and john and skip that never stoped...and many of the all natural gang ::)

how can someone in his right mind look like tropopin the amatuer from this site and then say he is natural or clean while tropopin is juiced to the max and been to everything and anything all at the tender age of 20+...i actually see here people that say they look like tropopin and show pictures resembling the all hormonized look and then claim natural or clean ,,,its spit in the face of bodybuilding...
then....you got clemens and barry doing it on daily basis and the americans are still talking about them as gods in every lno where to be found town in tx....so this all mentality of lying about natural status is so deep in the blood already,,,all the hiding from the wife or girlfriend thing..making those stupid bimbos,,well misereble girls to be exact,,,think you are natural while you hide your stacks in your shoe box and go to church with them like you wee born a buffed up jesus christ ...all of this mentality is what caused bodybuilding to go deeper into a cult society,,,after all how many bodybuilders you know that actually go to the hot tub to show their body? how many of them you know that actually show up on the beach now days? most of us hide and wear shirts to hide a big gut and make sure every one think we are truly the 270lb illusion we sell,,

natural bodybuilding is dead,,natural lifting is still alive but you will rarely look at those fellas ..sometimes they got decent arms with some veins showing naturally so you will give them half a look ...but in reality natural bodybuilding has no size ,,no thickness,,no freakiness,,it just looks as bunch of swimmers that decided to go train in the gym for their upcoming olympics,,problem is ...even they are on hormones!

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Depends when you start. If you start lifting in your 30s, you'll be able to put on some muscle. However, if you're like me, and started when you were 15, by the time you're in your mid 20s, you basically are what you are. After that, the gains you make are in refinement, rather than size, and that's fine because, as you get older and slower, carrying around extra weight whether it be muscle or fat becomes a burden.
That's your  answer  "DB"

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Asians are superiour genetically engineered muscle machines.....bow down in praise to the Greatest Race!!!!

Damn, I've been wondering why they haven't won the Mr. Olympia or Arnold...I guess puny mortal contests are nothing.

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Suggestions, please.
Without going into too much detail, I get good results from anti-aromatizing supplements like 6-oxo and stacking them with good doses of Eurycoma, and a liquid form of avena sativa, actually Vitrex works pretty good as well. Using these in various combinations and alternating certain ones works well. Again, we're talking about getting youthful hormone levels, not super high levels, but enough to make some gains on. These substances probably work better if you're over 35. I definitely see and feel a difference from when I take them and when I don't..and no, it's not just a placebo.

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Depends when you start. If you start lifting in your 30s, you'll be able to put on some muscle. However, if you're like me, and started when you were 15, by the time you're in your mid 20s, you basically are what you are. After that, the gains you make are in refinement, rather than size, and that's fine because, as you get older and slower, carrying around extra weight whether it be muscle or fat becomes a burden.
Yes, I agree. I actually started lifting when I was 13, so I had a foundation when I got serious at around 18 or so. When you've been lifting that long you are basically refining your physique after 25.

thanks for clearing that out guys.

i've always wondered about all those guys at the gyms that look the same year after year

turned out - it was you  ;D
The difference here is, most of us in this thread in maintenence mode still look better than you.  ;D
How old are you, Bluto?
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I think alot of it really does have to do with when you started lifting, obviously if you started young and took it seriously by 30 you will be close to max.  People like me who just dabbled in bodybuilding in in their mid 20's and didn't start seriously til late 20's can make gains.  I am 30 now and weight less than I did at 27 but my measurements are still the same.  And no, I'm not pretending to be some mass monster(6'1 215 with 17 inch arms)

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Without going into too much detail, I get good results from anti-aromatizing supplements like 6-oxo and stacking them with good doses of Eurycoma, and a liquid form of avena sativa, actually Vitrex works pretty good as well. Using these in various combinations and alternating certain ones works well. Again, we're talking about getting youthful hormone levels, not super high levels, but enough to make some gains on. These substances probably work better if you're over 35. I definitely see and feel a difference from when I take them and when I don't..and no, it's not just a placebo.

Well I suspected you were going to mention 6-OXO (or Novedex XT). That's hardly natural. 6-OXO is a steroidal aromatase inhibitor. Testosterone would be a lot more natural as that is actually a substance found naturally in the body unlike these AIs.