Gh15 I dont think you should be stating matter of fact statements about people just because it suits your argument. Troponin was just out here in Cali with me a short time ago. His last show was the 2007 USA in July and off.....its now May 2008. Coming up on a year now clean as a whistle but the guy can walk around 260-270 any day of the week with veins up and down his arms and as big as a house. I know many a huge amateur that is 300 on and 265-275 off. Im sorry that Getbig as a whole only can believe that steroids either make or break a bodybuilder but its not true. Maybe for the guys who are hi rep blood pumping bodybuilders who dont put their time in lifting back breaking heavy weights in their training.....those guys disengrate. But not the heavy slag lifting guys who built that thickness through poundages lifted over the years. Do you honestly think that people like Jay Cutler and Victor Richards and other mesomorphic bodybuilders are going to go from a thick offseason 300 pounds down to a paltry 215lbs if they kept everything else the same (heavy lifting, eating etc) and only removed hormonal help? Not a chance in hell. This board uses Tom Prince as its calling card for this very argument....a guy on kidney dialysis who HAS to reduce his bodyweight dramatically or whats the other choice? Or he dies. Hmmm I would say thats a good enough reason to give up all lifting and eating like a bodybuilder and reduce your bodyweight to 185lbs or so. But take a normal mesomorphic beast (and especially one who has been at a certain muscular size and bodyweight for a long long time with chemical help*****and therein is the key to all this) and remove only the chemical help and you will see that person lose some weight and look smoother but in no way disenegrate (unless thats the choice they themselves decide to make)
nah my friend,,
tropopin is a 29? year old fella lifter on everything and anything he could get during his time lifting,,he does very similar stacks like the local cops that do nationals and place accpordingly because his genetic respond is not good enough to be a profeesional,,nice fella though
his friend? kooklo the kid will be a profeesional,,but since you want a bit of truth into the equation ill give you the truth ,,
reason tropioin and kooklo look the same physiqe wize is because tropopin brought up kooklo to his stacks level,,you are talking here about guys that live for hormoens my friend,,trust me on that i can name here the exact products each is on to the t ,,tropopin is 100% hormonized and wouldnt be able to stand even 220lb at single digit after a year plus of being clean as in REAL CLEAN,,very few can maintain 220-230 at 6'1 at 10% clean and he is not one of them since he is as far from a freak as a powerlifter is far from a bodybuilder
in anycase the tropopin use and knowledge of hormones is vast ,,he put a lot of hours into it and did the right job for his genetic and he will forever be at the 5-15 placings in nationals but he went far for what he have because he knew his hormones and his bodybuilding both from inside the book but more importantly from the outside by experiemnting,,
his use of insulin and gh is a given and his all look is a bi product of the 2000s since it is a look that can make an average physiqe look impressive due to the use of gh and insulin with tren and diff easters of test depending on the need to a good gain of muscle mass,,he got the products test nandrolone/eq dianabol and anadrol gh insulin trenbolone all in his past experiences on a regular basis,,
he is a little smarter than the local cop in yuor local town that does nationals though,,he did himself good at young age to survive in a sport where only few become professionals ,,ihes not one of them and kooklo is one of them but they were in a stage a year ago where both look the same because both use the same exact goodies gh insulin aas and stimulants
a natural tropopin at single digit would never see the number 200lb
a natural kooklo at single digit would never see the number 175lb
though tropopin is thicker naturally kooklo can weight 50lb less and look better when it comes to muscle shape asymetry and response to hormones thus = pro card
thats how gh15 sees is and ofcourse it is 100% accurate so no need for feedback
