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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2008, 10:02:28 AM »
If you were aware of the resources the body requires to burn that amount of adipose tissue, you would understand and realize that improbability (especially continually on a week to week basis). An easy way to determine what is being lost is through caliper measurements.
50 grams of carbs per day plus 1 refeed of 300 grams of carbs.. your gonna have al the glucose metabolism by products you need in order to metabolise  that adipose..

so tel me again how you can guarantee your gonna lose muscle on keto ?

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2008, 10:03:16 AM »
Well he recommends it to his clients, and the public, so who does that leave? 

How is anyone crediting him anything?  It is his version of a ketogenic diet.  How does a man 'invent' a metabolic state?

LOL stupid.

 He hasn't changed the diet and the long established principles of it for it to merit being called 'his' version.

He sticks them on keto. He simply does what thousands have been doing since long before he switched from drug addict/dealer to contest expert.

Do his clients look as good as he did? I wonder if he hooks them up with some genuine gear instead of the fake crap he was jailed for.
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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2008, 10:06:10 AM »
50 grams of carbs per day plus 1 refeed of 300 grams of carbs.. your gonna have al the glucose metabolism by products you need in order to metabolise  that adipose..

so tel me again how you can guarantee your gonna lose muscle on keto ?

Stay on track, as that wasn't the argument. It was what the amount of weight being lost consisted of (adipose, lbm, water).

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2008, 10:08:11 AM »
Stay on track, as that wasn't the argument. It was what the amount of weight being lost consisted of (adipose, lbm, water).
okay, and im asking you to prove how you can gurantee that weight loss on keto HAS to include lbm. 

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2008, 10:11:07 AM »
He hasn't changed the diet and the long established principles of it for it to merit being called 'his' version.

He sticks them on keto. He simply does what thousands have been doing since long before he switched from drug addict/dealer to contest expert.

Do his clients look as good as he did? I wonder if he hooks them up with some genuine gear instead of the fake crap he was jailed for.

not really.  alot of the more famous keto diets are cyclic.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2008, 10:20:24 AM »
okay, and im asking you to prove how you can gurantee that weight loss on keto HAS to include lbm. 

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As I stated earlier, caliper measurements where lbm and lbs of fat are calculated will most certainly show this if he is losing 2-3lbs per week.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2008, 10:22:05 AM »
Unless you're using DNP with your clen and t3, that's not all fat. I promise you. Even still it wouldn't be.
No DNP, sure you may loose a little muscle getting ready for a contest. I'm just trying something new. I always do low carbs the last 4 of 5 weeks before a contest but feel like cap. On this diet with the high fat intake I'm feeling great and haven't lost strength like I usually do. It may not work for everyone ,but so far I'm liking it.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2008, 10:45:40 AM »
I think that the Palumbo diet is shit and it was his way of "cashing in" on doing something different. I know 3 guys that worked with him and they all had the same exact diet and cycle even though they were all in different weight classes. It was an easy way for him to collect $350 from many, many people. In theory it should work great but it just doesn't. All of his guys are conditioned but flat as fuck. The ONLY guy he has "prepped" that has done well is Evan Centopani. He was working with Tony Freeman but I know for a fact that Tony wasn't following what Dave was saying because my best friend trained with Tony everyday.

Plus, look at all the top pros. . . none of them use the "Palumbo diet." They all use carb cycling with insulin on "high" days. That's just how it's done these days.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2008, 10:59:03 AM »
how can you make a blanket statement like that ?  ::)
probably because sean is ten times the prep guy

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2008, 11:03:38 AM »
all my guys dont do cardio, clen, t3 or dnp. They have low days 1-3 a week, no lower then 100 and most high days are 350 and a long stagger over 20 weeks. Shit one of my guys gets sliced to the bone and he HAS to eat 300 carbs a day right to show. Depleting, cutting water, fucking with sodium are all shit people do who are not ready and trying to fix it last second. If your not ready 3-4 weeks out, your not gonna be. Its called lazy fucks and bodybuilders usually are leaning on there drugs instead of hard diet and hard intense training. My guys are all overall winners, class winners and some master nationals guys. So far so good. I would never keto them for as long as this diet does. Look at evan, used to come in full and hard, now hes hard and flat...

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2008, 11:41:21 AM »
all my guys dont do cardio, clen, t3 or dnp. They have low days 1-3 a week, no lower then 100 and most high days are 350 and a long stagger over 20 weeks. Shit one of my guys gets sliced to the bone and he HAS to eat 300 carbs a day right to show. Depleting, cutting water, fucking with sodium are all shit people do who are not ready and trying to fix it last second. If your not ready 3-4 weeks out, your not gonna be. Its called lazy fucks and bodybuilders usually are leaning on there drugs instead of hard diet and hard intense training. My guys are all overall winners, class winners and some master nationals guys. So far so good. I would never keto them for as long as this diet does. Look at evan, used to come in full and hard, now hes hard and flat...

sounds like you know what you're doing. good post.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2008, 11:44:25 AM »
any newB can come up with a carb cycling diet...
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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2008, 11:52:11 AM »
nobody thinks their shit stinks. especially in bodybuilding.     so your think your prep is GOLD, huh? lol. any fucking newB can come up with a carb cycling diet... shit, you probably just copied some chris aceto shit right out of flex magazine and now you charge guys for it..  yeah your a real stand up guy !  Roll Eyes

I don't think anything he said warranted that kind of response. He was pretty much right on. Sorry that there are factual arguments against your blind devotion to the Palumbo diet (which is actually a re-hashed version of the Pasquale diet, and the Adkins diet before him). If you'd sit back and read instead of taking this argumentative and defensive stance, you'd probably pick up a thing or two and figure out what truly works best for you.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2008, 11:58:28 AM »
i edited that immidetly after posting it.. 

im not saying i would use palumbos diet to prep

what i am saying is that guaranteeing someone they are goign to lose muscle on keto is arrogant and closed minded. 

and i alrady addressed the precursors to palumbo's version...whcih is more detailed than just pasquale and atkins.. 

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2008, 12:05:23 PM »
Whats the difference between Palumbo's diet and the Anabolic diet??
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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2008, 12:09:32 PM »
It amazes me how Palumbo (I won't call him Dave as I'm not his buddy) has managed to manoeuvre his elephantine hips into the position of 'bodybuilding guru'.

 This is a guy whose picture is frequently posted on websites as an example of one of the worst ever physiques. He has a medical condition named after him - joke or not - and he sold fake GH to his supposed friends.

He is also extremely effeminate and uses too much eyeliner.

Yes!  Exactly the points I make.  What makes him a genius about anything.  I don't go running to the local coke head for advice on which weed to buy and I wouldn't go to palumbo to ask him about what supps or drugs to buy.    If someone with a physique like Nubret recomended something to me I'd try it but someone as grotesque as Palumbo, fuck that!

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2008, 12:15:24 PM »
yeah but apparently pulombo is a med school drop out so hes supposed to have some sort of a background in medicine and thats why people call him an authority on drugs and nutrition.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2008, 12:17:26 PM »
yeah but apparently pulombo is a med school drop out so hes supposed to have some sort of a background in medicine and thats why people call him an authority on drugs and nutrition.

I always call law school dropouts for legal advice and people that spent one day at mechanics school to fix my car.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2008, 12:18:53 PM »
I always call law school dropouts for legal advice and people that spent one day at mechanics school to fix my car.

thats cool, im not for or against him im just stating why people listen to him.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2008, 12:22:07 PM »
i edited that immidetly after posting it.. 

im not saying i would use palumbos diet to prep

what i am saying is that guaranteeing someone they are goign to lose muscle on keto is arrogant and closed minded.

and i alrady addressed the precursors to palumbo's version...whcih is more detailed than just pasquale and atkins.. 

Not sure who you're referring to here, but if it was meant towards me, you also have a comprehension problem. AGAIN, I stated that losing weight at the rate of 2-3lbs per week, fat is not the only thing being lost. Where are you getting lost?

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2008, 12:23:05 PM »
yeah but apparently pulombo is a med school drop out so hes supposed to have some sort of a background in medicine and thats why people call him an authority on drugs and nutrition.

I believe Lonnie Teper debunked that "story" a while back.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2008, 12:25:01 PM »
I believe Lonnie Teper debunked that "story" a while back.

how so? not that i follow his shit but just curious

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2008, 12:37:20 PM »
So, anyone here has ever tried it?

results?

Personaly i stick to normal diet - cardio.

i have tried it.

i used it last year during a prep, and followed it to the letter.

it is an no- brainer type diet. like crusie control. you eat the same foods, every meal, every day at the same times, unlike say a carb rotation where you have to balance carbs/ protein on given days and make caloric adjustments depending on how much of each nutrient you are taking in on that day. probably the most user- freindly diet you will ever use, really.

i found the three days leading into ketosis were the most difficult, after that the cravings and lethargy associated with a typical low carb or even carb cycle were non- existent until about the 3-4 week out mark where your body's demands for energy cannot be fed from fat stores as they have become depleted. strength was good and energy levels very good until the 3 week out mark as well.

i also found that by staying in ketosis instead of taking the advocated carb-up on weekends accelerated fat loss.

the only drawback is that i could not fill out on the 60 grams of carbs over 6 meals that he says should fill you out. being a larger competitor, i am more used to around 500-700 grams of carbs over the 3 days to fill me out. it took a good 2-3 days of grazing after the show to fill out to the point where i was satisifed.

that being said, i would recommend if you try this diet to go into ketoisis, glycogen deplete yourself for several days and see how long it will take you to fill out once that depleted instead of waiting till the week of the show so you know better where you stand.

if you have any other questions, post them up.

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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2008, 02:39:41 PM »
Once tried an atkins-approach and it seems great, though I was too lazy to pull through.
Starting again now - only change is I eat lots of salad.
If one eats enough good oils, "feelings of flatness" don't seem to occur.
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Re: What do you think of the Palumbo diet?
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2008, 02:40:37 PM »
Remember how scarce Palumbo got when his boy Big Anthony keeled over?
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