Author Topic: Hypothetical: If you were a guilty Titus, would you take the rap for Kelly Ryan? (Read 3493 times)

240 is Back · « **on:** May 21, 2008, 06:34:51 AM »

Let's say you're titus. For the sake or argument, we'll pretend he and Kelly committed the crime together.

With such overwhelming evidence, you know you're looking at a life sentence with no chance of parole. Let's pretend your wife was involved, and it's likely she'll do a lifetime bid as well.

Would you take full credit for the crime if it meant the woman you love was able to be free and enjoy the rest of her life on the outside. You're already a condemned man, and you're built for prison. She can either spend her life in prison too, or she can go free and find a happy life.

If you were both guilty, would you confess to doing it alone (and maybe saying you forced her to buy the walmart kerosene...) so that she could go free? it would mean you have no appeals - you confess.

DK II · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:37:05 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2008, 06:34:51 AM

Let's say you're titus. For the sake or argument, we'll pretend he and Kelly committed the crime together.

With such overwhelming evidence, you know you're looking at a life sentence with no chance of parole. Let's pretend your wife was involved, and it's likely she'll do a lifetime bid as well.

Would you take full credit for the crime if it meant the woman you love was able to be free and enjoy the rest of her life on the outside. You're already a condemned man, and you're built for prison. She can either spend her life in prison too, or she can go free and find a happy life.

If you were both guilty, would you confess to doing it alone (and maybe saying you forced her to buy the walmart kerosene...) so that she could go free? it would mean you have no appeals - you confess.

classical "prisoner's dilemma".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

TrueGrit · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:38:40 AM »

Their defence is going to be that they found her dead and panicked.

There will be no confessions and the time already served will suffice for their crime of concealing the accidental death. That's clearly what they're all working towards.

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:39:43 AM »

Craig is not capable of that kind of selflessness. All he is focusing on is "beating the rap" for himself, even though there's a 99.999999% chance he won't succeed. Since taking the rap for Kelly would increase his chances of being convicted from 99.999999% to 100%, he won't do it.

DK II · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:40:18 AM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on May 21, 2008, 06:38:40 AM

Their defence is going to be that they found her dead and panicked.

There will be no confessions.

lol, good idea.

Did she also drive into the desert burn herself after dying?

TrueGrit · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:42:20 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on May 21, 2008, 06:40:18 AM

lol, good idea.

Did she also drive into the desert burn herself after dying?

No, they'll admit they did it out of blind panic and , perhaps, drug use. The time they've already served would cover this less serious crime.

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:57:19 AM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on May 21, 2008, 06:42:20 AM

No, they'll admit they did it out of blind panic and , perhaps, drug use. The time they've already served would cover this less serious crime.

That won't fly because of the tazer evidence and their statements after the fact. Their best bet at this point would be to get separate trials and blame each other. If the first one is lucky enough to get acquitted, they could change their testimony in the trial of the other and take the blame. Sure it would result in a perjury charge, but the time they've already been away will probably cover that.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:17:12 AM »

Ryan killed the girl, Titus tried to help cover it up. The end.

m8 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:20:03 AM »

Craig Titus is innocent.

240 is Back · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:21:55 AM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on May 21, 2008, 07:17:12 AM

Ryan killed the girl, Titus tried to help cover it up. The end.

maybe true, but he's headed to prison.

Would you take the 30-year bullet, if it meant your lovely wife could go free?

He'll NEVER see her again if they both go to prison. But she could visit him if only he was in prison. She could date getbiggers too, which craig wouldn't like.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:23:51 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2008, 07:21:55 AM

maybe true, but he's headed to prison.

Would you take the 30-year bullet, if it meant your lovely wife could go free?

He'll NEVER see her again if they both go to prison. But she could visit him if only he was in prison. She could date getbiggers too, which craig wouldn't like.

what has craiggers been charged with?

240 is Back · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:24:15 AM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on May 21, 2008, 07:23:51 AM

what has craiggers been charged with?

loving too much.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:24:57 AM »

We agree Rob.

Titus will get 2nd degree manslaughter and Ryan will get 2nd degree murder. Titus gets 12 years and is out in 2013. Ryan gets 18 years and is out in 2018.

Would I take the rap for my girl? Depends on the girl I suppose.

T-

kyomu · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:25:13 AM »

If I am gonna be put to death by taking all guilty, then I wont.
If I am gonna be put to death any way,then I will.

If I am not gonna be put to death by taking all guilt, I will. even if all my life is in prison.

The Ugly · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:30:28 AM »

Tough to be a hypothetical Titus. Hypothetically, I'm still trying to figure out why I didn't abort myself in utero.

chainsaw · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2008, 09:24:16 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2008, 06:34:51 AM

Let's say you're titus. For the sake or argument, we'll pretend he and Kelly committed the crime together.

With such overwhelming evidence, you know you're looking at a life sentence with no chance of parole. Let's pretend your wife was involved, and it's likely she'll do a lifetime bid as well.

Would you take full credit for the crime if it meant the woman you love was able to be free and enjoy the rest of her life on the outside. You're already a condemned man, and you're built for prison. She can either spend her life in prison too, or she can go free and find a happy life.

If you were both guilty, would you confess to doing it alone (and maybe saying you forced her to buy the walmart kerosene...) so that she could go free? it would mean you have no appeals - you confess.

Sounds like you have some inside info 240?

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:27:23 AM »

This thread is useless without pointless speculation

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:37:27 AM »

Hell no.

The RedMeatKid · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2008, 12:32:12 PM »

I'd put it all on the broad...I'd do whatever it takes to walk...let her fry.

The Luke · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:18:11 PM »

Maybe Craig should attempt the GetBig defense:

"I'm not ~~Lee Priest~~ Craig Titus!"

The Luke

gordiano · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:30:37 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2008, 07:21:55 AM

maybe true, but he's headed to prison.

Would you take the 30-year bullet, if it meant your lovely wife could go free?

He'll NEVER see her again if they both go to prison. But she could visit him if only he was in prison. She could date getbiggers too, which craig wouldn't like.

Sure.....so Kelly can go and fuck Paul Dillet, while Titus gets fucked by Paco, Flower, and Jermaine...... $:-\$

dr.chimps · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:41:51 PM »

Talk about hypothetical. I'm sure the forensics guys and the detectives know exactly what happened and how and by whom. You're not exactly dealing with a pair of Moriartys here, 240.

Meltdown · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2008, 03:18:55 PM »

If in fact the Girl died by accident why not call and ambulance and also why tape her up.Nah these Fukkas are going to get what they deserve if anything she will Role on him at the end of the trial you will here the judge say NEVER to be Released.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2008, 03:23:05 PM »

Quote from: gordiano on May 21, 2008, 02:30:37 PM

Sure.....so Kelly can go and fuck Paul Dillet, while Titus gets fucked by Paco, Flower, and Jermaine...... $:-\$

lol

I'm sure he'd be fucking some people himself.

Benito Mutumbo · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2008, 03:29:21 PM »

So in a blind panic they duct taped her mouth, tasered her numerous times, injected her with lethal amounts of narcotics, dug up an accomplice, and took their car out into the desert for a botched case of arson.

That's more than a moment of panic. There's so many crimes just in that that they'll be sitting in jail for years & years.

Even if by some fluke the judge tosses their confessions, of which there are two from different police departments, the state also has the testimony of their friends who they gave the taser too. Their testimony is brutal.. They'll fry just from that. Craig & Kelly told them all the nasty details.

Add in the testimony of the accomplice, who has already cut his deal, and the Titus' are toast.