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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2008, 08:41:19 PM »

If the problem is lactose as you say, why would the fat content matter (low-fat vs whole)?  Lactose is a slow digesting, slow burning sugar that does not significantly spike insulin levels.  The glycemic load of a glass of milk is absolutly nothing compared to the rice you recommend. 

As I told the other guy, please cite the studies which show consumption of dairy products specifically lead to thickening of the skin.

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Exactly.  Most kinds of rice spike insulin levels at least TWICE what even skim milk will.  Milk with fat in it spikes it even less because of the fat slowing down the process. 

Why anyone takes this troll seriously anymore is beyond me.

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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2008, 08:42:22 PM »
I dropped milk for 2 weeks and my skin thinned out dramatically.   Always been a huge milk drinker so i dont have a problem digesting it like some.    But i can say milk does cause thicker skin ..... :-\

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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »

If the problem is lactose as you say, why would the fat content matter (low-fat vs whole)?  Lactose is a slow digesting, slow burning sugar that does not significantly spike insulin levels.  The glycemic load of a glass of milk is absolutly nothing compared to the rice you recommend. 

As I told the other guy, please cite the studies which show consumption of dairy products specifically lead to thickening of the skin.

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what you say is book worm material ,,what im tellin you is actual practical ifbb and npc and any gym rat who knows his bodybuilding and experienced on his body phylosophy

the lactose and the fat that comes from daity is NOT GOOD,,it blurrs lines,,it smoothen physies,,it bloats physiqes and the only way to pull it is by using gh and today we all use gh

never the less! even though there is major use of gh now days,,,no one NO ONE around is even close to zane condition from the 70s ,,

not to forget!!!! winning mr o at 180lb is something that IS UNHEARD OF AND UNTHINKABLE,,today by the way zane would still place top 6 in any pro competition he entered with the condition he has back then and he would do it still at 180-190lb,,his condition had a lot to do with reduction of whole milk and cheese from diet


take the pictures of jason cutler and frank zane,,put it side to side ,,,the mr o pictures ,,you can take any year jason won it wont matter,,,you will always see that zane though 100lb smaller look 100 times better and cheeze and whole milk has a lot to do with the things that call themselves bodybuilders you see now days

cheese and whole milk = the lunch kid,,it is no bodybuilding it is a fat guy with big muscles but no detail ,,no cuts ,,all one big bulk of nothingness,,it ruined bodybuilding especially because you can pull it all off by injecting more gh...the question is ....is it worth it? i say no ,,i say it ruined bodybuilding
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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2008, 08:47:06 PM »

cheese and whole milk = the lunch kid,,it is no bodybuilding it is a fat guy with big muscles but no detail ,,no cuts ,,all one big bulk of nothingness,,it ruined bodybuilding especially because you can pull it all off by injecting more gh...the question is ....is it worth it? i say no ,,i say it ruined bodybuilding


So let me get this straight: you're saying MILK ruined "pro" bodybuilding?

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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2008, 08:52:28 PM »
heres my studies

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what you say is book worm material ,,what im tellin you is actual practical ifbb and npc and any gym rat who knows his bodybuilding and experienced on his body phylosophy

the lactose and the fat that comes from daity is NOT GOOD,,it blurrs lines,,it smoothen physies,,it bloats physiqes and the only way to pull it is by using gh and today we all use gh

never the less! even though there is major use of gh now days,,,no one NO ONE around is even close to zane condition from the 70s ,,

not to forget!!!! winning mr o at 180lb is something that IS UNHEARD OF AND UNTHINKABLE,,today by the way zane would still place top 6 in any pro competition he entered with the condition he has back then and he would do it still at 180-190lb,,his condition had a lot to do with reduction of whole milk and cheese from diet


take the pictures of jason cutler and frank zane,,put it side to side ,,,the mr o pictures ,,you can take any year jason won it wont matter,,,you will always see that zane though 100lb smaller look 100 times better and cheeze and whole milk has a lot to do with the things that call themselves bodybuilders you see now days

cheese and whole milk = the lunch kid,,it is no bodybuilding it is a fat guy with big muscles but no detail ,,no cuts ,,all one big bulk of nothingness,,it ruined bodybuilding especially because you can pull it all off by injecting more gh...the question is ....is it worth it? i say no ,,i say it ruined bodybuilding



Who is "Mike Queen", your phD who conducted your non-studies?  In other words, you have nothing.  Just locker-room gym-rat "wisdom" that means jack shit.  If someone has a shitload of fat in their diet, which can be obtained by downing tons of full-fat dairy, of course it can affect them, but as long as total calories and macronutrient mix are where they should be, there is nothing special about lactose or dairy in particular that has the ability to do as you say.

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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2008, 08:53:48 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2008, 08:54:10 PM »
So let me get this straight: you're saying MILK ruined "pro" bodybuilding?


That appears to be his argument.  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2008, 08:57:21 PM »
I've personally known a national level competitor who told me dairy is something he cuts out for contests.  I think I've heard Lee Priest say it before also.  Thats my two cents.  Never tried it myself because I love my milk.

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2008, 08:58:11 PM »
milk is liquid muscle!

calories, protein, carbs, deliciousness - it has everything



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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2008, 09:03:30 PM »

Who is "Mike Queen", your phD who conducted your non-studies?  In other words, you have nothing.  Just locker-room gym-rat "wisdom" that means jack shit.  If someone has a shitload of fat in their diet, which can be obtained by downing tons of full-fat dairy, of course it can affect them, but as long as total calories and macronutrient mix are where they should be, there is nothing special about lactose or dairy in particular that has the ability to do as you say.

Thanks for playing.  ::)

friend,,,im not here for analyzing book worm phylosephies,,im tellin you how it is ,,for the book work studies and discussion go to dante and ask to talk to skip ,,if you ask nicely enough im sure skip will explain to you everything you need to know about the book the pages and the letters ,,im here to tell you what works and what dont works,,you want thick skin ...go and drink your whole milk and cheese every day ....make sure you got gh so you can atleay pull it like kamali ::)

also to the one who asked about wether whole milk ruined bodybuilding ,,,NO it is the GH INSULIN AND THEN THE CONSUPTION OF EXTRA WHOLE MILK AND CHEEZE AND EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT MENTALITY ,,thats how to weight was packed on ,,thats how it can still be pulled off because the gh allows it to be packed ...everything grows bones tendoinds stomack so you can eat whatever and still pull it UNTIL YOU GET TO AGE 45 AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE GREG K SMILING AT YOU

go aheas drink your cell teck ,,with some whoel milk then eat pizza ,,do it everyday and you will be a 200lb version of jason with the same condition he was in the last o ,,,ofcourse youll need the drugs...do not forget them

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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2008, 09:06:20 PM »
GH15's first post on getbig.  Interesting how his English has gotten noticeably worse over time. ::)  I guess trolls have to evolve too.

i almost never do the board responding thing on boards that dont include classifieds on them but i must say something here. there is a world of difference between ray and craig titus. craig titus to begin with is a murderer no matter if he or his ugly wife did it... he is still a criminal and now a murderer. sean ray can talk about it as much as he wants since craig titus is no more a bodybuilder (not that he ever was) he is a murderer!

in addition if you notice clearly sean ray dont ever mention  the doses of hormones and what it really takes to get up on stage in nationals or in pro shows. he just keep to himself when it comes to hormones which is very smart. priest, prince, craig titus and company always say how little they used and still use but any sane bodybuilder and hopefully any sane humen being know they lie and lie and lie and then lie some more.

dont EVER compaire sean ray and craig titus they do not belong in the same group. sean ray is one of the more serious bodybuilder that lived and breath the life style and still does. craig titus was and is a drug freak and im not talking only hormones im talkin meth and im talkin cocaine and im talking x and many many more. there is a world of diff between a pro like ray and many of us that use mega doses of hormones to maintain size or improve our physiqe and a junkie that consider himself a bodybuilder. by the way craig titus was also a dealer! but i wont go there.

now to my thoughts about the matter:
i am almost 100% craig titus will get executed within the next 10 years. this crime is so severe that i can not see him getting life in prison. his ugly wife will probably get somewhere between 10 and 20 years. titus is going to be 160 pound guy in prison... the gang will teach him a lesson. they are waiting for him in there. this will be your proof that drugs play a major role in bodybuilding when it comes to the pros/top amatuers. this will show many of you that many pros lie right and left about their hormone use. you will see that in the next year or 2 he will get from his current 215-220 pounds to a thin 160 pounds. he's losing weight by the min.

no more titus at 250...get ready for titus as dead man walking at 160 pounds. titus aint no tookie williams, he aint no black bro that can have muscle screaming out of him with out touching gear. titus will be a little skinny play toy. who knows he might try to kill himself way before the verdict comes in... but he is basically dead man walking any way you look at it.

lesson to be learned: DON'T DO NARCOTICS! ! !

some of you may say oh he will be still 200 pounds ....well the reasons why he will not are:

1) he is spoild brat. he wont be able to be in prison for life he will be stressed every min of the rest of his life.

2) he will probably get death...unless his daddy or mommy got lots and lots of money which i doubt it...so a walking dead man is even more stressed.

3) he is 5'8 and already got down from 250+ to 215-220 in a very short time. remember his height will aim for the weight he had naturally. titus was a skinny teenager.

4) his wife life is done as in she will never ever be able to work again in fitness. no where! and he wont be able to live with the fact he ruined her life too... which will = depression and body shut down.

5) he will eat 3 meals in prison and yes some guys can maintain weight with it especially when you do nothing all day long beside sitting in your cell. but he wont have the hormones!!! the hormones are a major factor in our lives. no matter how hard you train.

6) the food he will eat wont be the kinda food that is clean enough for NATURAL guys to maintain lean physiqe. he wont be able to adjust his diet inorder to maintain even 190 pounds of quality mass.

7) check out kevin now retired from bodybuilding a whole 190-200 pounds. he is still on gear by the way and he is not in a cell and he eats right and good. he just reduced/changed the hormones and the calories. craig titus is NO kevin levrone..kevin levrone genetics is godly same as ron colman and sean ray. those guys are at diff level genetically than titus..they still used and one of them still use mega doses of the goodies...but they are superior to titus genetic wise. unlike kevin..titus will be in a cell waiting for execution he wont be able to keep no muscle with out loads of hormones, good training, lots of food, and brain that is not depressed. he also wont have 9 or 10 hours to sleep at night....he doesnt have no life no more. he took life so now society takes his life.

what will happen to craig titus is probably the following: he will reduce a lot of size while at the same time increase body fat. he will end up somewhere between 150 and 170 at 5'8 with 15-20% body fat. it wont happen in a couple of days..it will probably take a good year or 2 in prison after the verdict comes if they found him guilty that is.

i wish craig titus and his ugly wife hell on earth and beyond.

now to justify and prove you everything i said about hormones is on the spot i will add 2 pics of guys you know that are off hormones now.

one is quite femiliar and a very nice person and was "few times" mr o, and the other guy is well had a big mouth, lied and still lie right and left about the hormone use he had done, and looked horrible even when he competed. (and im not talking about bob c :) )

rest my case.









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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2008, 09:11:07 PM »
friend,,,im not here for analyzing book worm phylosephies,,


Usually those with a disdain for education are those who have none.



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THE CONSUPTION OF EXTRA WHOLE MILK AND CHEEZE AND EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT MENTALITY ,,thats how to weight was packed on ,,


No, consuming more calories than you burn each day is how weight gets packed on, not the consumption of particular foods.   ::)    Next thing you know you're gonna say the Earth is flat. 
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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2008, 09:20:56 PM »
GH15's first post on getbig.  Interesting how his English has gotten noticeably worse over time. ::)  I guess trolls have to evolve too.


And that is the definition of Getbig "epic!"  Funny how every post since has pretty much harped on the same damn things!  Just like Howie's!  You see that thread of his from 2005 the other day that sounded like he could have written it yesterday???  ha ha this place rocks.     

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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2008, 09:24:32 PM »
And that is the definition of Getbig "epic!"  Funny how every post since has pretty much harped on the same damn things!  Just like Howie's!  You see that thread of his from 2005 the other day that sounded like he could have written it yesterday???  ha ha this place rocks.     

haha true.  But in all seriousness, I feel sorry for the second-rate gym rat who is trying to achieve "internet celebrity" by running this troll account.

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« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2008, 09:42:14 PM »
haha true.  But in all seriousness, I feel sorry for the second-rate gym rat who is trying to achieve "internet celebrity" by running this troll account.

Let me ask you a question.  Would you guess this gentleman to have answers to your questions that fall in line with traditional ways of thinking?   ;D   

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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2008, 09:45:32 PM »
Let me ask you a question.  Would you guess this gentleman to have answers to your questions that fall in line with traditional ways of thinking?   ;D   



I would guess that gentleman couldn't afford an airline ticket from San Diego to Columbus.
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Re: gh15- Do pro's REALLY eat lots of junk/fast food?
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2008, 10:14:01 PM »
What about 1% cottage cheese? I have been eating a lot (like 2.75 kg a week) because it is fast and easy protein. I am trying to get down to under 92kg so no where near contest shape but even as I drop I am a lot wateryer (ya I know thats not a word) then last time. I just attributed it to eating a lot of salt...

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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2008, 01:27:53 AM »
For heaven sakes, cheeZe has like 1 gram of sugar per ounce....ONE GRAM!!! That is miniscule lactose. Cheese, mozzarella and havarti are excellent as far as fat/protein ratios. 1 oz of mozz has 9 grams of pro and 5 grams of fat.....thats a nice muscle building treat on a very low carb diet.

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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2008, 03:09:58 AM »
nasser looking fucking great as usual.
sometimes we need the calories just to hit daily totals. junk food can help reach it and the sat fat is good for test levels.
try being 300lb and needing to sustain it . hard to do on just brown rice and chicken breast

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2008, 05:19:34 AM »
I'm still waiting for the "lactose is a direct causative agent in thickening of the epidermis" studies.  >:(
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2008, 05:23:06 AM »
GH15's first post on getbig.  Interesting how his English has gotten noticeably worse over time. ::)  I guess trolls have to evolve too.


He's a gimmick i can't believe mcfarland thinks otherwise.....

his "advice" on everything is "drugs. take lots of drugs" "the secret is dbol my freinds" ::) "Gh keeps you lean" ::)

i could go on and on and on but everything he posts about is cut and paste and read from other boards...

nicely done though as a troll....

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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2008, 05:25:55 AM »
So let me get this straight: you're saying MILK ruined "pro" bodybuilding?

dumber than hell this gh kid is. ;)

cutler ain't had milk in 30 years!!! :-\

Now insulin...that's a different story....
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kid 15 does love goat cheese and ass so watch out G O A T B O Y....your user name excites him.... ;D
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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2008, 10:39:20 PM »
He's a gimmick i can't believe mcfarland thinks otherwise.....

his "advice" on everything is "drugs. take lots of drugs" "the secret is dbol my freinds" ::) "Gh keeps you lean" ::)

i could go on and on and on but everything he posts about is cut and paste and read from other boards...

nicely done though as a troll....



Funny how the guy behind him hasn't bothered to post again in this thread after I posted that friendly reminder about how his posting style has changed.  Mind you, I don't care either way if he posts here.  He just needs to scrap that stupid gimmick and be real for once, and stop pretending he's some top 5 Olympia contender--which we all know he's not. ;)

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« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2008, 11:49:37 PM »
gh15 knows his shit when it comes to bodybuilding.
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« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2008, 11:57:57 PM »
gh15 knows his shit when it comes to bodybuilding.

He knows something about drugs.  Never heard him say a word about real lifting, though.  In fact, I'd be willing to bet my left nut the guy behind that account has seen the inside of a gym less than the average getbigger. ;)