how many sets for back?

[roc]

i usually do approx 18sets. iv'e always felt that could pound on that complex muscle group. overtraining back would be difficult in my opinion

[Matt C]

I did 10 sets:

Four sets of deadlifts (I got 315 for 15 on the second set today so it was a good day).
Four sets on the Icarian row machine: http://www.buyfitnessonline.com/catalog/images/CYBEX_Dual_Axis_Row_Rear_Delt___.jpg
Two sets of incline dumbbell rows.

Although I'm not really a good person to ask about training advice.  Then again to be honest, I think my lack of gains is related to diet and not training.  I would say my training is sound for the most part, but I need to get the calories up.

[Method101]

I did 10 sets:

Four sets of deadlifts (I got 315 for 15 on the second set today so it was a good day).
Four sets on the Icarian row machine: http://www.buyfitnessonline.com/catalog/images/CYBEX_Dual_Axis_Row_Rear_Delt___.jpg
Two sets of incline dumbbell rows.

Although I'm not really a good person to ask about training advice.  Then again to be honest, I think my lack of gains is related to diet and not training.  I would say my training is sound for the most part, but I need to get the calories up.

if your diet was poor your strength would not have gone up as much as it has.

[flexingtonsteele]

I just say do two width exercises and two rowing movments. The sets and reps matter on what type of training you prefer.

But generally I think 10-12 sets is enough.

[Cleanest Natural]

my ideea of back is pulling movements for lats and rowing for middle and traps...and hyperextensions..I don't see the need for deadlifts..and another thing....I believe in moderate weights for back to realy feel it because going too heavy will involve the arms too much.

[roc]

does anyone here still incorporate T bar rows. they seem to really hit the entire back. i love that exercise

[Bluto]

I did 27 sets last time.

[roc]

bluto i don't know if your serious but i was in the 20 range and my elbows were killing me for a few weeks. no doubt i needed a little layoff

[MAXX]

its usually around 20-25 sets

6-7 different different exercises.

[MAXX]

does anyone here still incorporate T bar rows. they seem to really hit the entire back. i love that exercise

yep. i love them to. i do them like Jay Cutler and Ronnie. With a barbell and hooking on a close grip handle bar.

[Bluto]

bluto i don't know if your serious but i was in the 20 range and my elbows were killing me for a few weeks. no doubt i needed a little layoff

For hypertrophy I believe you need a lot of sets.

[kyomu]

I did 27 sets last time.

Are you in Gym 4 hour or something?

[dr.chimps]

I just say do two width exercises and two rowing movments. The sets and reps matter on what type of training you prefer.

But generally I think 10-12 sets is enough.

Agree. Did this yesterday, then 6 sets for traps. 

[Purge_WTF]

  10-12 when cutting, at least 20 when bulking.

[Bluto]

Are you in Gym 4 hour or something?

back doesnt take so long maybe 1-1,5 hour? i rest 90 seconds between sets

[The Coach]

Volume in the key for bodybuilding (training).

[Overload]

12-15 sets max

Deadlifts x 3
Chins x 3
Rows x 3
Pullovers x 3

This is working sets only...

[leon]

five sets X five exercises. No deadlifts, I'm an old guy with bad back.

[ChestBrockwell]

back n chest today  total 18 sets for back

Superset
pec dec 3 sets
pull overs 3 sets

superset
one arm cable rows 3 sets
stiff arm lat pull downs 3 sets

pull downs behind the neck 2 sets
reverse grip pull downs 2 sets
seated cable rows 2 sets

weighted hyperextensions 3 sets

[pumpster]

does anyone here still incorporate T bar rows. they seem to really hit the entire back. i love that exercise

Better than any other rowing motion IMO.

If your sets are intense you really don't need more than 9-12 sets of upper back excluding warmup, other than when cutting before a contest. Chose a pulldown/chin motion, one row, one pullover per workout, can always rotate other exercise in and out over time.

[swilkins1984]

3-4 Pulldowns
3-4 BB Rows
3 Nautilus Pullover
3 Deadlifts

 This includes the warm up set.

[elite_lifter]

18 sets

[bigmc]

For hypertrophy I believe you need a lot of sets.

you are not training hard enough

if you need to do 27 sets

i would be suprised if you have done 27 sets total in your whole life

[Bluto]

you are not training hard enough

if you need to do 27 sets

i would be suprised if you have done 27 sets total in your whole life

i train harder than most. lots of sets are needed for hypertrophy.

[bigmc]

i train harder than most. lots of sets are needed for hypertrophy.

two words

dorian yates