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the guy was 16 years old, I'm sure there is a reason why the US is holding teenagers and children in Guantanamo bay? ::)

This is the first time that an acutal movie of an actual Interrogation in Guantanamo Bay has been released.
Still trying to find the movie on Youtube

Documents made public last week show that Mr. Khadr was subjected to weeks of sleep deprivation by U.S. military officials before being interviewed by Canadian officials, and that the Canadians were aware of the sleep deprivation.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080715.w2khadr15/BNStory/International/home

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here's the movie







Move down further on that page and you see a longer one:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/,tt2m1/ausland/artikel/528/185941/

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The US military in Guantanamo is nothing compared to other secret venues that they use.  Guantanamo is a known prison but the CIA has many secret prisons around the world in which they do worse shit to these people.  They are fucking animals dressed in military garb.  Fucking degenerate uneducated americans join the military and are then given this power to do shit. 

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The US military iN Guantanamo is nothing compared to other secret venues that they use.  Guantanamo is a known prison but the CIA has many secret prisons around the world in which they do worst shit to these people.  They are fucking animals dressed in military garb.  Fucking degenerate uneducated americans join the military and are then given this power to do shit. 

kid was 16 when they snatched him, man i wonder what it must feel like being locked up without knowing if you ever be released.

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I'm not saying the interigator is unfriendly at all, but the situation for a 16 year old must have been horrible.

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kid was 16 when they snatched him, man i wonder what it must feel like being locked up without knowing if you ever be released.

Bush passed a law a few years ago that went without any media attention but it allows them to imprison any American suspected of terrorism and allows them to torture your kids to get info out of you.  This is a fact and a few stories emerged in horror that this law was allowed to pass but the congress were a bunch of spineless fucks ready to pass any law because they didn't want to get viewed negatively about 911

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the guy was 16 years old



So are a lot of the suicide bombers from Gaza who regularly murder civilians in Israeli cities.  So were most of the soldiers throughout history prior to the 20th century.  A 16-year-old with a Kalashnikov and training can kill you just as dead as a 25-year-old can.

Just because we in the west consider 16-year-olds children in our society, that doesn't mean they are worldwide.  These muslim fucks aren't "kids" listening to pop music and going to proms, they're hardened killers, period.
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you stupid idiot, he's a 16 year old that wants to and will if he ever gets the chance blow up innocent people

you think they just picked him u cause he was shopping at a sports store, you dumbass?


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who cares, he's a terrorist.
It hasn't helped...

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this peice of shit tossed a granade at a US convoy.
too bad thats all that happened to him.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 07:45:44 AM »
the guy was 16 years old, I'm sure there is a reason why the US is holding teenagers and children in Guantanamo bay? ::)

This is the first time that an acutal movie of an actual Interrogation in Guantanamo Bay has been released.
Still trying to find the movie on Youtube

Documents made public last week show that Mr. Khadr was subjected to weeks of sleep deprivation by U.S. military officials before being interviewed by Canadian officials, and that the Canadians were aware of the sleep deprivation.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080715.w2khadr15/BNStory/International/home

Yes, because 16 year olds can be terrorists too?

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 07:46:47 AM »
they were also giving him a hamburger, and he did that crap, awesome video for the attorney to release.



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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 07:48:17 AM »


So are a lot of the suicide bombers from Gaza who regularly murder civilians in Israeli cities.  So were most of the soldiers throughout history prior to the 20th century.  A 16-year-old with a Kalashnikov and training can kill you just as dead as a 25-year-old can.

Just because we in the west consider 16-year-olds children in our society, that doesn't mean they are worldwide.  These muslim fucks aren't "kids" listening to pop music and going to proms, they're hardened killers, period.

You can see that all over europe...

12 year olds killing and robbing all over town.  :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 07:48:48 AM »
fucck that Canada skickens me. Just couse hes a Canadian citizen were fighting tooth and nail to get this scumbag out of therre and into canada. This animal should have been put down a long time ago, like a fuckin rabid dog.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 07:50:39 AM »


So are a lot of the suicide bombers from Gaza who regularly murder civilians in Israeli cities.  So were most of the soldiers throughout history prior to the 20th century.  A 16-year-old with a Kalashnikov and training can kill you just as dead as a 25-year-old can.

Just because we in the west consider 16-year-olds children in our society, that doesn't mean they are worldwide.  These muslim fucks aren't "kids" listening to pop music and going to proms, they're hardened killers, period.



Spot on. The CIA and the Guantanamo bay interogators should be able to really push it when the aim is to catch terrorists. Using tough methods to get important information out of a 16 year old muslim lunatic, information that can save hundreds of lives, should be allowed.

When fighting in a war, a soldier will kill another soldier that tries to kill him, regardless of age. There is no reason to threat an enemy captive ready to kill with silk glows, because war is a different ballgame than civil life.

If it were up to Debussey, these captives should be taken to top secret facilities around the world and get exposed to every experimental and non experimental interrogation technique possible to get as much info out of them as possible, no matter what.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 10:03:44 AM »
did the kid train at a golds gym over there    i assume this is body building related nico
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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 10:14:06 AM »
did the kid train at a golds gym over there    i assume this is body building related nico

shut your face convict

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 10:23:03 AM »
Yes, because 16 year olds can be terrorists too?


statistically, a gigantic number of gitmo detainees have been totally innocent, and almost none have actually been charged with anything.

what happened is the military pays afghani and iraqi shady characters if they turn over terrorists, so they pose as police, pick up random people off the streets, and pass them over to the united states, collect their reward, and thanks to the prisoners having neither habeas corpus nor the right to see what evidence is against them, they get stuck.

think about how that works. once you're IN custody, there is quite literally no way to get out. you can't challenge your imprisonment, you'll never see why you're there, and chances are you'll never get charged or even brought to a trial. you just... wait.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 10:46:29 AM »
statistically, a gigantic number of gitmo detainees have been totally innocent, and almost none have actually been charged with anything.

I guess that explains why the terroist they release end up being picked up again by US soldiers or blowing themselves and innocents up.


Thanks for the clarification, and factual evidence  ::) I guess your in the know when it comes to terror organizations and those at gitmo  ::)

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 10:51:45 AM »
statistically, a gigantic number of gitmo detainees have been totally innocent, and almost none have actually been charged with anything.

what happened is the military pays afghani and iraqi shady characters if they turn over terrorists, so they pose as police, pick up random people off the streets, and pass them over to the united states, collect their reward, and thanks to the prisoners having neither habeas corpus nor the right to see what evidence is against them, they get stuck.

think about how that works. once you're IN custody, there is quite literally no way to get out. you can't challenge your imprisonment, you'll never see why you're there, and chances are you'll never get charged or even brought to a trial. you just... wait.

STATISTICALLY THEY GOT OFF ON TECHNICALITIES. This twat was picked up during a firefight in which he tossed a granade at a US medic. I support torture in this instance, also when stark is involved.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 10:54:39 AM »
I guess that explains why the terroist they release end up being picked up again by US soldiers or blowing themselves and innocents up.

STATISTICALLY THEY GOT OFF ON TECHNICALITIES. This twat was picked up during a firefight in which he tossed a granade at a US medic. I support torture in this instance, also when stark is involved.

unfortunately this has never happened.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/21/gitmo-report-scalia/

Among the report’s conclusions:

    – According to the Department of Defense’s published and unpublished data and reports, not a single released Guantánamo detainee has ever attacked any Americans.

    – Despite national security concerns, the Department of Defense does not have a system for tracking the conduct or even the whereabouts of released detainees.

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 10:56:39 AM »
unfortunately this has never happened.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/21/gitmo-report-scalia/

Among the report’s conclusions:

    – According to the Department of Defense’s published and unpublished data and reports, not a single released Guantánamo detainee has ever attacked any Americans.

    – Despite national security concerns, the Department of Defense does not have a system for tracking the conduct or even the whereabouts of released detainees.




WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Kuwaiti man released from U.S. custody at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in 2005 blew himself up in a suicide attack in Iraq last month, Pentagon officials said Wednesday.

Abdullah Saleh al-Ajmi was one of two Kuwaitis who took part in a suicide attack in Mosul on April 26, the officials said. Records show that an attack in Mosul that day targeted an Iraqi police patrol and left six people dead, including two police officers.

An announcement on a jihadist Web site earlier this month declared that al-Ajmi was one of the "heroes" who carried out the Mosul operation. A second man from Kuwait also took part in the suicide attack, the Web site said.

Pentagon officials who had been keeping track of al-Ajmi said they were aware he had left Kuwait for Syria, a launching ground for terrorists into Iraq.

A video posted on various jihadist Web sites shows a number of images of al-Ajmi, followed by text reading, "May God have mercy on you Abdullah al-Ajmi. I send you a warm greeting O you martyr, O you hero, O you, a man in a time where only few men are left."

U.S. military records of Guantanamo detainees indicate that a man with the same name and nationality was held at the Cuban prison.

Those records said al-Ajmi, 29, was picked up in Afghanistan as he tried to enter Pakistan after the 2001 U.S. invasion. He claimed to have fought for the Taliban, the records show, and said he fought in a number of battles against the Northern Alliance.  Watch a firefight in Afghanistan »

Though he was never charged with any crime, al-Ajmi was held at Guantanamo through 2005. Military documents show he later claimed that his statements about fighting for the Taliban were made after he was threatened while in U.S. custody. He asserted that he was in Afghanistan to study the Quran.

Al-Ajmi was transferred to the custody of Kuwaiti authorities in November 2005, with four other Kuwaitis, and was released after a trial there, according to Pentagon officials.

Al-Ajmi is not the first former Guantanamo detainee to reportedly return to the battlefield after being released. Pentagon officials say there are more than 10 people once held by the U.S. at Guantanamo who have been killed or captured in fighting after being released from the detention facility.

"Our reports indicate that a number of former [Guantanamo Bay] detainees have taken part in anti-coalition militant activities after leaving U.S. detention. Some have subsequently been killed in combat," said Cmdr. Jeff Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman.

Documents provided by the Pentagon show other former detainees returning to the battlefield, including Abdullah Mahsud, who was released from Guantanamo in 2004. He returned to Afghanistan, where he became a militant leader in the Mahsud tribe in southern Waziristan, the documents said.

"We have since discovered that he had been associated with the Taliban since his teen years and has been described as an al Qaeda-linked facilitator.

"In mid-October 2004, Mahsud directed the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers in Pakistan. During rescue operations by Pakistani forces, a kidnapper shot one of the hostages. Five of the kidnappers were killed. Mahsud was not among them," the documents provided by the Pentagon said.

"As these facts illustrate, there is an implied future risk to U.S. and allied interests with every detainee who is released or transferred from Guantanamo," Gordon said.

Reports of former detainees returning to the battlefield show they are dedicated to their cause and have been trained to be deceptive, the Pentagon officials said, but such factors will not prevent the release of other detainees from Guantanamo Bay.

Of the more than 500 detainees released from Guantanamo since the detention camp was opened in 2002, 38 have been stripped of their "enemy combatant" status and determined to pose no future threat to the United States. The remaining 462 were repatriated to home countries or resettled to third-party countries and still considered a threat, Pentagon records show.

Some countries have since released those detainees back into the public, according to various reports.

The United States is still holding about 65 detainees scheduled to be released to their home governments. But before that can happen, the United States has to get assurances the detainees will not be persecuted or harmed when they arrive home, Pentagon officials have said.

"We have no desire to be the world's jailer, which is why the 500 were allowed to depart," Gordon said.

There are about 270 detainees still held at the U.S. prison camp in Cuba.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/07/gitmo.bomber/index.html

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 11:03:12 AM »
so we've got ONE, and even that's not conclusive according to the article itself (saying just that they had the same name and nationality).

although the interesting part is... there was no evidence he'd ever done anything before, he only "confessed" after severe interrogation, and then (supposing this is accurate), he attacks.

what's the lesson? well obviously, after we imprison innocent people, we can't let them go or, after all the shit they went through at our hands, they're gonna be mighty pissed off.

yep, great point. well done, BF. of course, since you're so hilariously anti-arab i'm pretty sure you'd link to an article of an Iraqi who spent 10 years being beaten with metal poles in custody who then shot the guy who beat him as proof that "muslims are savages". ::)

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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 11:08:37 AM »
so we've got ONE, and even that's not conclusive according to the article itself (saying just that they had the same name and nationality).

although the interesting part is... there was no evidence he'd ever done anything before, he only "confessed" after severe interrogation, and then (supposing this is accurate), he attacks.

what's the lesson? well obviously, after we imprison innocent people, we can't let them go or, after all the shit they went through at our hands, they're gonna be mighty pissed off.

yep, great point. well done, BF. of course, since you're so hilariously anti-arab i'm pretty sure you'd link to an article of an Iraqi who spent 10 years being beaten with metal poles in custody who then shot the guy who beat him as proof that "muslims are savages". ::)

First off, this guy was a Kuwaiti who deserted the Kuwait army to fight in his imaginary Jihad. He was picked up and ended up being released. So instead of venting on Americans, he decided to blow up a bunch of Iraqi police officers. And if you bothered to read the article, they've picked up or killed more than just ONE guy. Now you're going to tell me that none of these other guys that were released out there aren't going right back into the fight? I'm sure they've caught every guy who was in Gitmo and is back fighting!! Yeah, that's believable....if you're a retard.  ::)

And it may be accurate that he attacked after but it's 100% accurate that he admitted to being a terrorist only after interrogation? Great logic.  ::)

This kid is a murderer and his family has Al Qaeda ties. He's crying now but I'm sure he wasn't too upset as he lobbed that grenade that killed a US special forces member in Afghanistan.



Someone should post a video of Muslim interrogation tactics. Usually involves beating, maybe dismemberment and eventual beheading while the victim is still alive.


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Re: Important: First movie of Interrogation in Guantanamo bay released
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 11:09:07 AM »
so we've got ONE, and even that's not conclusive according to the article itself (saying just that they had the same name and nationality).

although the interesting part is... there was no evidence he'd ever done anything before, he only "confessed" after severe interrogation, and then (supposing this is accurate), he attacks.

what's the lesson? well obviously, after we imprison innocent people, we can't let them go or, after all the shit they went through at our hands, they're gonna be mighty pissed off.

yep, great point. well done, BF. of course, since you're so hilariously anti-arab i'm pretty sure you'd link to an article of an Iraqi who spent 10 years being beaten with metal poles in custody who then shot the guy who beat him as proof that "muslims are savages". ::)

fucken ay. Their scum, just couse they havnt commited any suicide bombings doesnt make them any better.