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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2008, 06:57:10 PM »
Wow, Moosejay... two whole examples...

I suppose all those UN reports decrying the US's deplorable: homelessness rate; infant mortality; child mortality; literacy; healthcare system; public services; education standards; poverty rate; rich/poor disparity; job benefits; pensions; economic opportunity; welfare systems etc. etc.... are all just a load of baloney.

Pretty humorous for a so-called (Self professed in your case) intellectual to look at the fucking UN as a legitimate organization.

It is not


By the way, dismissing a generalized accusation applied to an entire nation/economy by means of two specific  individual instances is highly evasive and intellectually dishonest.

There are plenty of 'trickle down' examples that would fall under either category. I am here for fun, not writing a book. And I type with one hand, dude.

You are incapable of seeing anything other than in your own eyes. Oh, and you don't live here


So I guess when I asked:...I guess I got my answer: No, you can't.

Pity you didn't add a "Support our troops!" to give the full diabolical trio.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2008, 06:58:22 PM »
You realize the irony of telling people that you 'pulled yourself up' all by yourself why admitting that you lived at the YMCA?  You realize that the YMCA was created to help people 'down on their luck' AND receives public tax money?

You really are a tool...

No shit dumbass.

I pay heavy taxes and am glad to do so.

Since you don't know math, "Doom", that means I am doing well.

Tool my ass, you fucking pimply teenager.

Moosejay

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2008, 06:59:36 PM »
Wow, Moosejay... two whole examples...

I suppose all those UN reports decrying the US's deplorable: homelessness rate; infant mortality; child mortality; literacy; healthcare system; public services; education standards; poverty rate; rich/poor disparity; job benefits; pensions; economic opportunity; welfare systems etc. etc.... are all just a load of baloney.

By the way, dismissing a generalized accusation applied to an entire nation/economy by means of two specific  individual instances is highly evasive and intellectually dishonest.

So I guess when I asked:...I guess I got my answer: No, you can't.

Pity you didn't add a "Support our troops!" to give the full diabolical trio.

No, I'd say, support Bush, our government, everything we do, and ESPECIALLY our troops.

HTH

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2008, 07:06:50 PM »
You realize the irony of telling people that you 'pulled yourself up' all by yourself why admitting that you lived at the YMCA?  You realize that the YMCA was created to help people 'down on their luck' AND receives public tax money?

You really are a tool...

...POST OF THE WEEK!

Doom, laying the smackdown once again. Time to delete your account Moosejay.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2008, 07:11:27 PM »
...POST OF THE WEEK!

Doom, laying the smackdown once again. Time to delete your account Moosejay.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2008, 07:28:05 PM »
If you'd been on GetBig a little longer Moosejay, you'd know that my full name and picture have been published in several American newspapers and I've been interviewed on NPR.

Instead of attacking my (perceived) anonymity, why can't you address the issues being debated without resorting to your tired routine of:
-evade the question
-dismiss the validity of the question
-answer the question you wish had been asked not the actual question
-attack the questioner
...you have done all of these in this thread, and every other thread you pollute with your "contributions".


But then again, perhaps all the economic facts and statistics are wrong... perhaps the UN is a not a legitimate organization whose 192 member nations top academics turn out faulty reports only questioned by "clever" people such as yourself... not by the world media... then again, perhaps I'm totally wrong.

So why can't someone such as yourself Moosejay explain this PROPERLY without making a fool of yourself and exposing your own stupidity.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2008, 07:35:22 PM »
No, President of the U.S. will be just fine.
When he is sworn in you are free to leave the country and not come back.   ;)
  Might not be a country to come back to :(
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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2008, 07:40:15 PM »
its all going to change come election time.  the republicans have a nice october surprise planned for obama
   Pics of him with a white woman....after hours ;D
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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2008, 07:50:09 PM »
...Moosejay, turn off the FOX News and try thinking for yourself.

Ask yourself, where in the world would I most want to live if I was disadvantaged: homeless, a widow with young children or severely disabled... that is the measure of a society's quality, not how it treats billionaires.

This is a serious question... can you answer it without dismissal; evasion or cliched catchphrases?


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I love how you Euros are so smug and self righteous about how moral your societies allegedly are.  Really, you guys should feel free to turn your countries into havens for those you deem to be "disadvantaged".  Open the floodgates to angry Muslims and sub-Saharan Africans who will sap your beloved social welfare systems. 

In America we give people economic freedom.  This allows those among us with a lot of drive and ambition the potential to amass a lot of wealth.  That doesn't mean that people who can't or won't pull their own weight are thrown overboard.  America is actually a very generous society, with the average American donating a lot more money than the average European. 

"Americans give twice as much as the next most charitable country, according to a November 2006 comparison done by the Charities Aid Foundation. In philanthropic giving as a percentage of gross domestic product, the U.S. ranked first at 1.7%. No. 2 Britain gave 0.73%, while France, with a 0.14% rate, trailed such countries as South Africa, Singapore, Turkey and Germany."     http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-25-charitable_N.htm

Another thing to take into consideration is that America in effect heavily subsidizes the defense of Europe with our military presence.  So your governments can use some of the money that otherwise would have been allocated for defense and spend it on the social programs you like so much.  This is not going to last forever and when we stop subsidizing your defense your nations' funding priorities are going to change dramatically. 

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2008, 08:08:47 PM »
Tesla,


Those figures are wrong...

Ireland gives more money to foreign aid through our government (as a percentage of GDP and on a per capita basis) than any other country in the world... private giving by Irish people is also among the highest (if not the highest in the world) it's a side effect of having suffered economic privation only 20 years ago; serious poverty for the preceding century and a major famine only 150 years ago.

Those figures you quoted are misleading... "philanthropic giving" would have to include donations to evangelical mega-churches and social programs (programs that are government funded in Europe) for those rankings to hold true.

So an American giving a hundred bucks to Rev Ted Haggard's church or Katrina relief isn't really comparable to a European giving a hundred bucks to famine relief in Darfur.

Do a little more research on this Tesla and you'll see what I'm talking about... good point on the invasion of Africans and disgruntled Muslims though.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2008, 08:16:02 PM »
...eh, FOX News? The NRA (who pay for tv ads)? A shitload of right-wing think-tanks who put out bullshit reports whenever Carl Rove asks them to?

What America doesn't realize is that the centre is quite a bit left of where they think it is... the American media is so heavily controlled by big corporations that most Americans don't even question what they have been told to believe:

-Americans believe in the free market, but don't seem to comprehend that monopolies and cartels have full control of that supposedly "free" market.

-Americans are against "socialised medicine"... yet are unaware of the fact that every country in the world with a better healthcare system than the US (all 35 of them) use it.

-Americans don't believe in proper welfare systems because they term them "handouts"... yet their society's growing wealth disparity has done nothing to improve the lot of the "average" American, instead it has severely destabilized their country (New Orleans, Detroit... just another ten cities before total collapse).


...this is not the product of a "liberal" media.

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LOL.....you and your hate for FOX news crack me up  hahahahahahahahahaha. Fuck, you're so liberal you make Nancy Polosi look like a card carrying member of the NRA, LOL!

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2008, 08:17:19 PM »
LOL.....you and your hate for FOX news crack me up  hahahahahahahahahaha. Fuck, you're so liberal you make Nancy Polosi look like a card carrying member of the NRA, LOL!

...you make Forest Gump seem like a Nobel prize winner.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2008, 08:17:27 PM »
LOL.....you and your hate for FOX news crack me up  hahahahahahahahahaha. Fuck, you're so liberal you make Nancy Polosi look like a card carrying member of the NRA, LOL!

I like Fox-especially Greta and O'Reilly, but you have to admit it is totally right wing and biased.....  :D

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2008, 08:17:52 PM »
LOL.....you and your hate for FOX news crack me up  hahahahahahahahahaha. Fuck, you're so liberal you make Nancy Polosi look like a card carrying member of the NRA, LOL!

Don't mind the Luke coach.

I don't understand why euro trashes feel the need to get involved in AMERICAN POLITICS.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2008, 08:19:47 PM »
Don't mind the Luke coach.

I don't understand why euro trashes feel the need to get involved in AMERICAN POLITICS.

I agree. But this is just too damn funny..LOL.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2008, 08:20:57 PM »
Don't mind the Luke coach.

I don't understand why euro trashes feel the need to get involved in AMERICAN POLITICS.

...that would be a valid complaint if American wasn't meddling in the politics of every other country.


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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #66 on: July 26, 2008, 08:25:11 PM »
LOL.....what polls are you looking at? Even the lib ABC pole has McCain closing in FAST.

BTW, did you hear Obama say in a speech "I've visited 57 states with 1 to go" or " I predict when I'm President for the next 10 years" "Israel supports Israel".

and there's plenty more.

Whats funny is when McCain makes mistakes it's old age and the media makes an issue of it, but when Obama says stupid crap no one says a word. Epic liberal media bias!!

if you believe this BS why not place a big bet on http://www.intrade.com ?  they will give you better than 2 to 1 odds on McCain winning:

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #67 on: July 26, 2008, 08:27:10 PM »
...that would be a valid complaint if American wasn't meddling in the politics of every other country.


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LMAO.......you or anyother country wouldn't know what hell to do without the support of the US.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #68 on: July 26, 2008, 08:34:38 PM »
LMAO.......you or anyother country wouldn't know what hell to do without the support of the US.

...eh, Forest, the US doesn't support Ireland. Never has. In fact, over the past ten years our economy has vastly outpaced the US economy.

Run Forest run!



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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2008, 08:39:29 PM »
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I don't bet. Saying that there are alot stupid people who will vote for him and I'm talking about people who will vote for 1 reason and 1 reason only..
Because he's black. The dude seriously has nothing to offer. He been in the senate for 2 years with little or no accomplishments, he even failed as a leader in his own district in Illinois.

He's a media creation. He speaks well, he's fairly easy too look at on TV, he dresses well, etc,etc. But compared to others in congress and politics in general, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and that includes Hillary Clinton and to be honest, I'd MUCH rather see her in than this facade.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2008, 08:41:07 PM »
...eh, Forest, the US doesn't support Ireland. Never has. In fact, over the past ten years our economy has vastly outpaced the US economy.

Run Forest run!



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So what you're saying, is that if you ever went to war, you would not be calling for our assistance? The US are not allies of Ireland?

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #71 on: July 26, 2008, 08:41:53 PM »
...that would be a valid complaint if American wasn't meddling in the politics of every other country.


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Welcome to the pecking order of Nations. There is nothing you can do about it.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #72 on: July 26, 2008, 08:43:43 PM »

Welcome to the pecking order of Nations. There is nothing you can do about it.

Well, not quite. You could do like Hitler and ensure that your nation goes up in the order.


Hitler.....  >:(

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2008, 01:51:20 AM »
Obama in the Black White House. ::)
FIXED for you...its all good.

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Re: New Polls show Obama up by 6 points now
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2008, 05:05:31 AM »
So what you're saying, is that if you ever went to war, you would not be calling for our assistance? The US are not allies of Ireland?

...eh, Forest, Ireland is a neutral nation like Switzerland. We didn't even participate in WW2 (that is with the exception of "benevolent neutrality" towards the Allies). We don't have military allies as we don't have a (proper) standing army.


The last time Ireland fought a full scale war was 11,000 BC against Atlantis... which we shamefully won by means of genocide.



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