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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #175 on: October 15, 2008, 05:54:19 AM »
Very impressive Leafy.

I bet your knee pain would decrease if you quit using the smith machine for squats. SNX gave a sound diagnosis of your issue.

Good luck!

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #176 on: October 15, 2008, 06:03:09 AM »
hesus ... talk about overcomplicating simple stuff ..
stfu ::) ::) ::)

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #177 on: October 15, 2008, 06:22:10 AM »
Geez, I thought I dumbed it down significantly. Guess not enough for everyone. 
relax " doctor "  ::)

you make it fucking sound like you're building the atomic bomb ...


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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #178 on: October 15, 2008, 06:31:22 AM »
Relaxing....right....now.

Ok, you go.

What would you tell him to do?
I actually looked that up and it showed some stretches that i had never even though of that would help prevent that kind of pain. I'll try them all later this week when i hit legs again.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #179 on: October 15, 2008, 06:33:47 AM »
Relaxing....right....now.

Ok, you go.

What would you tell him to do?
well

to be safe when you do legs, you have to adjust your stance and toe positioning including distance between feet and how low you dip according to your bone structure ...

for example : I'm bowlegged and my legs also arch backwards when straight

So the best stance for me is quite open, with toes pointing at 2 ocklock ...

This way there's no unnatural twisting/scissoring forces on the ligaments/tendons and it uses my much stronger inner thingh ...



my bet is that Leafy bug is pushing himself too hard and doesn't take good care of his legs :

legs once a week

only squats for quads ...

streching WELL and PROPER after

massage  at least once a week ..

sea salt baths (hot )

castor oil wraps


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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #180 on: October 15, 2008, 06:39:47 AM »
Plus

EVERYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU GET A SHARP PAIN OR PAIN PERIOD IN THE KNEE AREA ...

1MONTH OFF COMPLETELY ( MINNIMUM ) AND PHYSIOTHERAPY

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #181 on: October 15, 2008, 06:47:43 AM »
well

to be safe when you do legs, you have to adjust your stance and toe positioning including distance between feet and how low you dip according to your bone structure ...

for example : I'm bowlegged and my legs also arch backwards when straight

So the best stance for me is quite open, with toes pointing at 2 ocklock ...

This way there's no unnatural twisting/scissoring forces on the ligaments/tendons and it uses my much stronger inner thingh ...



my bet is that Leafy bug is pushing himself too hard and doesn't take good care of his legs :

legs once a week

only squats for quads ...

streching WELL and PROPER after

massage  at least once a week ..

sea salt baths (hot )

castor oil wraps


I actually tried jamming elbow into my quads and running it down the length of the outer head of the quad. It will pass in time hopefully. Previously i was having a lot of shoulder pain from heavy benching and i felt like there was an imbalance in my delts. I started training rear delts pretty hard and the pain went away.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #182 on: October 15, 2008, 06:48:46 AM »
Don't agree necessarily with the "time off" reco. It depends. It's not an absolute for me. We differ. That's cool.

What's the benefit of a castor oil wrap? Never done it. I'm curious. What does it do?
recovery and replenishing of natural forces within the body

castor oil wraps

sea salt baths

aloe vera

peppermint tea ( for stabilizing blood sugar regulators )

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #183 on: October 15, 2008, 06:50:09 AM »
I actually tried jamming elbow into my quads and running it down the length of the outer head of the quad. It will pass in time hopefully. Previously i was having a lot of shoulder pain from heavy benching and i felt like there was an imbalance in my delts. I started training rear delts pretty hard and the pain went away.
pain = injury at any level ...

the body is sending you a signal of distress

back off

time off completely + phisiotherapy

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #184 on: October 15, 2008, 11:39:28 AM »
hahah poor leafy bug has an injury. ever think your life sucks from all the hatred you spew towards me and others leafy aka buttsuck. that probably has alot to do with it you will have more injuries unless you change the way you treat your brothers on here

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #185 on: October 15, 2008, 11:45:49 AM »
hahah poor leafy bug has an injury. ever think your life sucks from all the hatred you spew towards me and others leafy aka buttsuck. that probably has alot to do with it you will have more injuries unless you change the way you treat your brothers on here

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Never said i had an injury. Read the thread. I said i have something that has potential to become an injury. The only people i mess with on this forum are the coach, chick, and arvilla and that's because i like to bust their balls. You on the other hand are a total disaster. I tried to give you an intervention but you keep spiraling deeper and deeper. How is the olive oil diet going and the painting job? I really do hope that works out for you. If i didn't care i wouldn't say anything to you which is why i have stopped flaming you. You are going to do your own thing... Whatever, that's fine. Hope everything is going good for you.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2008, 12:35:50 PM »
Never said i had an injury. Read the thread. I said i have something that has potential to become an injury. The only people i mess with on this forum are the coach, chick, and arvilla and that's because i like to bust their balls. You on the other hand are a total disaster. I tried to give you an intervention but you keep spiraling deeper and deeper. How is the olive oil diet going and the painting job? I really do hope that works out for you. If i didn't care i wouldn't say anything to you which is why i have stopped flaming you. You are going to do your own thing... Whatever, that's fine. Hope everything is going good for you.
i dont beleive a word of this
a month ago you were stalking me on AIM hoping that i would die and saying things that made me cringe in pity for you with the amount of hatred and anger you were showing, is only a reflection bro. i even had to block you. i think you just need to put a cap on your temper deep down i know you are cool just lke everyone else who is creation that was miraculously born into this world
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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #187 on: October 15, 2008, 12:40:14 PM »
i dont beleive a word of this
a month ago you were stalking me on AIM hoping that i would die and saying things that made me cringe in pity for you with the amount of hatred and anger you were showing, is only a reflection bro. i even had to block you. i think you just need to put a cap on your temper deep down i know you are cool just lke everyone else who is creation that was miraculously born into this world

falcon j...send him a spackle bucket as a door prize.maybe he could work his way back into ur good graces.or a shot of laceur thinner.with an olive oil chaser.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #188 on: October 18, 2008, 12:45:58 AM »
Just curious leafy whats the daily diet like?

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« Reply #189 on: November 12, 2008, 12:10:43 PM »
Just curious leafy whats the daily diet like?
     I have cleaned it up quite considerably because as you can see from the pictures i'm about to post i've put on quite a bit of fat. Typically i'd hide the fat pics but i think this is something everyone needs to see. Im up to about 185-190 now. My progress has tapered and im not having the explosive strength gains i used to. I don't know whats happening really. Adonis thinks i have put on some muscle but im not sure. I have added about an inch on to my leg but i don't know if it's fat or muscle. I think my hamstrings and traps have come up a bit but that is about all. I got my knee problem fixed from the smith press squats. I found out it was because i was coming up on my toes which put all the pressure on the tendons in my knee. Now i push from my heels and i feel it alot my in my hips.
     Right now i'm just eating whole grain breads, cereals, milk, oats, yogurt, raw eggwhites, buffalo meat, peanut butter and healthy nuts, cous cous, tuna, a daily poptart, and i have a pizza about once a week. On top of this i get my special work out shake  ;). My calories are at about 4000-4200. Before i would pretty much just worry about getting my 220 grams of protein and the rest of my calories were cheese cake and pizza. I got pretty sick of eating like that anyway.
     My chest has been getting a lot tighter lately so i have backed off on the heavy benching. It feels like 2 pulleys steadily tightening the muscle every time i hit chest so i just dropped the weight about 25 pounds and try to rep more. I would like to get one of those deep tissue massages to see if that would help. I just try to stretch it a lot. I can't stand it when they feel tight. I haven't had anything else seriously slowing me down though.... yet (knock on wood). Me and my work out partner just started doing leg press again. We are up to about 1025 pounds on it for 8-12 reps. My back squat has gone from 350 for a few struggling reps to 375 for 4. The thing that worries me most is the possible damage i could be doing to my heart. When i lift its hard for me to breath and my face gets really red. My front squat has plateaued completely and the most i ever did i think was 325 for 3. I have actually had to drop the weight on that back down to 305. I think my feet are positioned wrong so it is actually harder. I'll try to work on that in the next few weeks.

Here are the pics and a few shopped side by side so you can see the difference over time. It has only been about 3 months since the show. Some of these pics are in comparison with my 1 week out shots and the others are comparisons from the last time i posted pictures.

EDIT: Sorry getbig is being stupid

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #190 on: November 12, 2008, 12:34:12 PM »
The thing that worries me most is the possible damage i could be doing to my heart. When i lift its hard for me to breath and my face gets really red.

with all exercises?

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« Reply #191 on: November 12, 2008, 12:38:47 PM »
with all exercises?

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No just squats... everything else is fine.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #192 on: November 12, 2008, 12:39:43 PM »

                     

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« Reply #193 on: November 12, 2008, 12:41:47 PM »
you're making fun of that smile before anybody else can :)

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #194 on: November 12, 2008, 12:44:58 PM »
looking awesome Leafy, you can definitely tell that you've put on some size, good work.

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« Reply #195 on: November 12, 2008, 12:46:12 PM »
looking awesome Leafy, you can definitely tell that you've put on some size, good work.
Thanks... i just can't tell if it's fat or not. I'll retake some in about 7 weeks.

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« Reply #196 on: November 12, 2008, 12:47:14 PM »

                     

                      ;D

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« Reply #197 on: November 12, 2008, 12:48:44 PM »
Looking great Leafy!
No doubt you have gained some size, especially noticable in the legs.
Great job.

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Re: COLLEGIATE NATIONALS OR BUST!!!
« Reply #198 on: November 12, 2008, 05:20:40 PM »
looking good, I can see why people were questioning natural status.  The greatest compliment for a natural.

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« Reply #199 on: November 12, 2008, 06:07:56 PM »
Looking good Leaf.