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Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« on: September 01, 2008, 07:00:53 PM »
Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
By Rebecca Sinderbrand
CNN
     
ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) -- Key evangelical leaders rallied to Sarah Palin's support Monday amid news that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was having a child.

"Before, they were excited about her, with the Down syndrome baby," conservative, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said. "But now with this, they are over the moon. It reinforces the fact that this family lives its pro-life values."

Palin and John McCain oppose abortion and have supported promoting abstinence in schools, which would seem to make Bristol Palin's pregnancy an inconveniently timed development.

But she is keeping the child, a fact that could make the Alaska governor -- whose candidacy has been enthusiastically embraced by evangelicals who regard her as one of their own -- even more popular among that key GOP voting bloc.  Watch more on Palin's announcement »

"Fortunately, Bristol is following her mother and father's example of choosing life in the midst of a difficult situation," Family Research Council president Tony Perkins said. "We are committed to praying for Bristol and her husband-to-be and the entire Palin family as they walk through a very private matter in the eyes of the public."

Evangelical leader Richard Land also backed Palin completely.

"This is the pro-life choice. The fact that people will criticize her for this shows the astounding extent to which the secular critics of the pro-life movement just don't get it," Land said in a statement.

"Those who criticize the Palin family don't understand that we don't see babies as a punishment but as a blessing. Barack Obama said that if one of his daughters made a mistake and got pregnant out of wedlock, he wouldn't want her to be punished with a child. Pro-lifers don't see a child as punishment."

The immediate support of these major figures, who offered universal praise for the Palins' actions after learning their daughter was pregnant, provides the filter through which conservative Christian voters will process the development.

Most important for Palin, an elder statesman of the movement, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, released a statement lauding the Palins for acting in keeping with the group's policies and practices:

"We have always encouraged the parents to love and support their children and always advised the girls to see their pregnancies through, even though there will of course be challenges along the way. That is what the Palins are doing, and they should be commended once again for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances.

"Being a Christian does not mean you're perfect. Nor does it mean your children are perfect. But it does mean there is forgiveness and restoration when we confess our imperfections to the Lord. I've been the beneficiary of that forgiveness and restoration in my own life countless times, as I'm sure the Palins have," Dobson said.

Some evangelicals gathered in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, for the Republican convention speculated that the news would pose more of a problem for Democrats than for the GOP ticket.

Speculation by some on blogs that Palin's son Trig was actually Bristol's child had led to outrage among conservatives.

Any comment by Democrats that is viewed as remotely critical could make both Sarah and Bristol Palin appear to be sympathetic victims of a political vendetta.

By Monday afternoon, evangelical leaders were circling the wagons.

"The media are already trying to spin this as evidence Gov. Palin is a 'hypocrite,' but all it really means is that she and her family are human," Dobson said. "They are in my prayers and those of millions of Americans."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.evangelicals/index.html

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 07:03:59 PM »
well it sure wouldn't be very Christian of them to abandon her

btw - Pro-Lifer's get no credit from me for "not" having an abortion

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 07:11:50 PM »
It's interesting on the one hand how they scream leave Bristol alone, the child should be off-limits, yet they have no qualms about trotting her out like a puppy at a dog n' pony show.    Poor kid.   :'(

I wouldn't be surprised to see campaign posters with her bare pregnant belly next.
I'm glad Jerry Falwell isn't around for this, because something tells me his position on an unwed pregnant teen would be anything but supportive.

Today they rally around her, ...but if when Obama wins in Novemeber, ...they'll blame the defeat on her
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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 07:14:37 PM »

well it sure wouldn't be very Christian of them to abandon her

btw - Pro-Lifer's get no credit from me for "not" having an abortion


It worked for Alan Keyes, ...and his daughter stood absolutely no chance of getting pregnant.
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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2008, 07:15:36 PM »
well it sure wouldn't be very Christian of them to abandon her

btw - Pro-Lifer's get no credit from me for "not" having an abortion


Why not? It shows that their willing to stuck to their guns even when hit with the sobering responsibility of parenthood.


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 07:18:07 PM »
It's interesting on the one hand how they scream leave Bristol alone, the child should be off-limits, yet they have no qualms about trotting her out like a puppy at a dog n' pony show.    Poor kid.   :'(

Please write a letter to Barry asking him to leave his daughters at home and off the campaign trail.

Oh yeah... politicians from both sides of the aisle like to portray themselves as family men (or women).

My bad.


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2008, 07:44:15 PM »
Why not? It shows that their willing to stuck to their guns even when hit with the sobering responsibility of parenthood.

if you're referring to the abortion statement it's because they're already Pro-Life.

They've already decided that abortion is wrong so of course they get no credit for not taking that path

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 07:46:13 PM »
Wonder if they're checking out Sarah's ass as they rally behind her.

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2008, 07:50:27 PM »
Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2008, 07:51:53 PM »
if you're referring to the abortion statement it's because they're already Pro-Life.

They've already decided that abortion is wrong so of course they get no credit for not taking that path

A person should get credit for sticking to their core beliefs when their back's against the wall.

If defines who they are.


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2008, 07:52:52 PM »
yeah, i admire her for keeping the baby - whether the 5th baby was hers or not - keeping it was a big and bold move.  props for that.

and i do agree with most of her positions on the issues.

but i don't think mccain properly vetted her.

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2008, 07:54:48 PM »
A person should get credit for sticking to their core beliefs when their back's against the wall.  if defines who they are.

that's like giving an orthodox jew or muslim credit for not eating pork.

they have no choice in the matter otherwise they are hypocrites (I'm talking about the anti-abortion people).

I don't give people credit for not being a hypocrite

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 07:55:01 PM »
A person should get credit for sticking to their core beliefs when their back's against the wall.

If defines who they are.



I agree

Pass this over to Obama will ya.


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 07:57:13 PM »
I agree

Pass this over to Obama will ya.




Is that a liberal smart-stick?

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2008, 08:07:37 PM »

Is that a liberal smart-stick?

lmao,  ;D

ahh man

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2008, 08:10:20 PM »
I agree

Pass this over to Obama will ya.



Then he can pass it to Palin, I assume you are aware of what she admitted also.

They can have a bi-partison smoke 8)

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2008, 08:59:32 PM »
A person should get credit for sticking to their core beliefs when their back's against the wall.

If defines who they are.



I agree.  Criticizing people for violating their core beliefs, but not giving them "credit" for being true doesn't make a whole lot of sense. 

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2008, 09:02:32 PM »
A person should get credit for sticking to their core beliefs when their back's against the wall.

If defines who they are.


This doesn't bode well for the Bush agenda of dismantling the constitution then, ...that sounds Anti-American
...and McCain wants to continue more of the same.  ???
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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2008, 09:08:52 PM »
I agree.  Criticizing people for violating their core beliefs, but not giving them "credit" for being true doesn't make a whole lot of sense. 

Depends which way you look at it.

I thought part of the family value set and "core beliefs" was to be practice abstinence and NOT to engage teenage premarital sex and get pregnant in high school.

Can't discard and choose "core beliefs" at whim, so this can be seen either way.

Either way, any rational person should commend Palin for standing by her child, while recognizing teen pregnancies are nothing to be commended for, and to be supported while not encouraged.


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2008, 09:16:48 PM »
Depends which way you look at it.

I thought part of the family value set and "core beliefs" was to be practice abstinence and NOT to engage teenage premarital sex and get pregnant in high school.

Can't discard and choose "core beliefs" at whim, so this can be seen either way.

Either way, any rational person should commend Palin for standing by her child, while recognizing teen pregnancies are nothing to be commended for, and to be supported while not encouraged.



Doesn't sound like the family discarded their core beliefs.  Sounds like their daughter made a mistake and the family is standing by their child, who is keeping, rather than aborting, the baby.   

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2008, 09:50:12 PM »
Today they rally around her, ...but if when Obama wins in Novemeber, ...they'll blame the defeat on her

This worries me, the poor girl may blame herself.

The bigger picture here is judgement.

Downs newborn baby, 2 other younger kids, a pregnant teen - but you choose to run for VP thrusting your kid into the international press. And McCain choose her :-\

There are so many capable picks for VP, tons - but those kids only have one mom...

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2008, 09:52:58 PM »
This worries me, the poor girl may blame herself.

The bigger picture here is judgement.

Downs newborn baby, 2 other younger kids, a pregnant teen - but you choose to run for VP thrusting your kid into the international press. And McCain choose her :-\

There are so many capable picks for VP, tons - but those kids only have one mom...

I agree - bad judgement by McCain and equally bad judgement by Palin


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2008, 10:05:06 PM »
Doesn't sound like the family discarded their core beliefs.  Sounds like their daughter made a mistake and the family is standing by their child, who is keeping, rather than aborting, the baby.   

Nope... sounds like an Alaska family who can't stop rutting, ::) is telling ever-body else how to behave, when they can't follow God's law..  Isn't that just like you religious ummm people.  Just can't follow your own creed can you?  :)

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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2008, 10:20:57 PM »
Nope... sounds like an Alaska family who can't stop rutting, ::) is telling ever-body else how to behave, when they can't follow God's law..  Isn't that just like you religious ummm people.  Just can't follow your own creed can you?  :)

I haven't heard Palin telling everyone how to behave.  Have you?  Sounds to me like she has a set of core beliefs, just like many people in politics. 

Always funny how anti-religious folks use the broad brush whenever an openly religious person has a problem. 

I haven't met a perfect person yet, but when I find one I'll let you know.   :)   


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Re: Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2008, 10:33:44 PM »
I haven't heard Palin telling everyone how to behave.  Have you?  Sounds to me like she has a set of core beliefs, just like many people in politics. 

Always funny how anti-religious folks use the broad brush whenever an openly religious person has a problem. 

I haven't met a perfect person yet, but when I find one I'll let you know.   :)   



Guess you'll stop using the  ::) icon since you're humble, dude.  ::)  Actually are you saying she isn't advocating no contaceptives, no abortion, no judgment on enerbody? :)  No judgement on every woman in America.  Because she can't really judge anyone's morality?

So she isn't saying no contraceptives for anyone, she isn't saying everybody must be like she? Frack I hope not!!! :) She had to get married, so taught same for her child. Who would possibly keep their kid out of school for months so they can bunny-love their boyfriend.  My mother sure as hell wouldn't have.  And she just knew what was right. ;)